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Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Mister Beeg posted:

Jack Ohman also legitimately pissed off Rick Perry over this cartoon:



Well deserved, IMO.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...c6f44_blog.html

They were trying to do the standard "Our hearts go to the disaster victims, but don't actually ask us to question the policies we support that lead to it or actually DO anything for them. The important part is praying for them then doing nothing" and blaming the cartoonist for not falling in line and being disrespectful. I think getting a politician of that national prominence to tilt is "winning" as a political cartoonist.

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Stinky_Pete
Aug 16, 2015

Stinkier than your average bear
Lipstick Apathy

Businesses that can't handle regulations and fair labor practices are literal vermin to drive out. AGC

Trogdos!
Jul 11, 2009

A DRAGON POKEMAN
well technically a water/flying type




GyroNinja
Nov 7, 2012

zoux posted:

Oh I probably didn't recognize his name because of his terrible signature but that is an unforgettable Ted Cruz.

It's a really good Mitch McConnell too.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003



I'm sorry but I read halfway through this thinking he was supporting another push into Gaza.


OH NO! Not free stuff anything but that. :ohdear:

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Radish posted:

I'm sorry but I read halfway through this thinking he was supporting another push into Gaza.

I believe that is the joke

His joke is that he is so fascist you cannot tell whether he is calling for a complete cleansing of all unclean foodstuffs or of all unclean peoples

And also the way he spells "Pesach" really pisses me off but that's nothing new

Broken Loose
Dec 25, 2002

PROGRAM
A > - - -
LR > > - -
LL > - - -

wow, speaking of lovely pro-status quo edgelords

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

Radish posted:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...c6f44_blog.html

They were trying to do the standard "Our hearts go to the disaster victims, but don't actually ask us to question the policies we support that lead to it or actually DO anything for them. The important part is praying for them then doing nothing" and blaming the cartoonist for not falling in line and being disrespectful. I think getting a politician of that national prominence to tilt is "winning" as a political cartoonist.

The first time I saw that cartoon, I thought it was just kind of tasteless and edgy. It wasn't until Perry started bitching about it that I realized it was actually an excellent criticism of his policies.

colonel_korn
May 16, 2003

1 Friendly reminder that if you don't physically abuse your children, they'll kill your cat, or something.
2

:corsair: posted:

Society has tolerated a lot of things they don't understand as the left shames the public into believing there's something wrong with them for following their personal standards. But this bathroom thing?.. It's over agressive and ignorant for the left to believe society is ready to just take this one with no pushback.
It'll happen... we're too PC to let it not... but today?.. Not today.

3 :confused:
4 In fairness they should have anticipated this given how they named the ship
5 :pwn:
6
7

Gato
Feb 1, 2012


loquacius posted:

How exactly does the whole EU thing break down in Britain w/r/t partisan politics? Like, I think if America was in the same position the left wing would want to stay in because solidarity with our allies and doing our part for the greater global community etc etc etc, and the right wing would want to leave because Murica stands alone and gently caress Europe they're all pinkos anyway

but I dunno if that translates to British politics exactly

Like the Republicans, the Conservatives are an uneasy alliance between a leadership composed mostly of pro-business neo-liberals and a voting base of older, less-urban voters mostly concerned about immigration. The leadership therefore loves the EU because it's great for the banking sector that's propping up the rest of our economy and immigration keeps wages down, but they've been happy to let the right-wing press bash the EU for the last few years because it makes for a convenient lightning rod. Unfortunately for them, the pro-EU conservatives seem to have naively assumed that the press would fall in line as the referendum approached, but if anything the papers have become even more stridently pro-Brexit in order to show Cameron who's boss (see also the pigfucker story). The Cabinet has split down the middle leaving Cameron and his heir apparent Osborne (and others including Jeremy Hunt, hence the 'country McC-' in the cartoon) fighting a lackluster Remain campaign versus Boris Johnson, Michael Gove ('Scrotey McScroteface' in the cartoon) and UKIP leading various different Leave campaigns.

Labour have also been fairly divided, albeit mostly behind the scenes because the press are more interested in the Tory implosion - one the one hand, the EU is all for things like TITP, austerity economics and tax havens, but on the other hand it's probably the only thing stopping the Conservatives tearing up every remaining environmental and labour regulation in the UK. Corbyn recently gave a speech putting Labour firmly behind Remain, so it's more or less been settled although you'll still hear a few left-wing voices arguing for Brexit.

e: thread moves on, UrbicaMortis answered well, so it goes. also lol at that word filter

Daniel Bryan
May 23, 2006

GOAT

Both candidates want to use taxpayer money to fund programs that would help people. AGC.

chairface
Oct 28, 2007

No matter what you believe, I don't believe in you.

Gov't? Spend tax money on programs to improve the workforce, the economy, and the health and welfare of its people!? Preposterous! Anyone believes that is like a child asking Santa Claus for things! Look at those children, the Democrats!

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Thanks for the breakdown of UK politics, guys, that was really interesting :)


honestly, Wise's apparent "being trans is real if and only if you have the operation" and "acceptance of trans people is inevitable but America isn't ready :bahgawd:" views are both more progressive attitudes than we've seen anyone else on that side of the aisle take :shrug:

still not, y'know, good opinions or anything, but surprisingly less terrible than expected from the guy whose #1 most important issue is that we're not beating our children as much as we used to

oddium
Feb 21, 2006

end of the 4.5 tatami age



have these people figured out what they want women transitioning to men to do yet

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon

colonel_korn posted:

1 Friendly reminder that if you don't physically abuse your children, they'll kill your cat, or something.


"If we don't violence the ones we're meant to take care of, they'll violence the ones they're meant to take care of." :toughguy:

KillerJunglist
May 22, 2007

Lion of Judah protect you, Jah be praised.

"Wh... what? I'm not a chuckle... You're a chuckle!" :mad:

Vague reference, but this reminds me of an MST3K episode (Time of the Apes) where this one kid while hiding behind some rocks, proclaims that he isn't afraid of anyone because he has a pocket knife.
Joel says "You’re dumber than those rocks, kid."


oddium posted:



have these people figured out what they want women transitioning to men to do yet

Oh, I know! Not transition.

KillerJunglist fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Apr 18, 2016

Mordiceius
Nov 10, 2007

If you think calling me names is gonna get a rise out me, think again. I like my life as an idiot!
Kelly, I feel, is someone who "you always remember your first time". So what was your first Kelly?

This was mine:

I dont know
Aug 9, 2003

That Guy here...

Radish posted:

I'm sorry but I read halfway through this thinking he was supporting another push into Gaza.

The first text box is "Politics?" So the joke is he's really talking about passover when you, the reader, assume it's about ethnic cleansing. Though with Kirschen that's a safe assumption.

FronzelNeekburm
Jun 1, 2001

STOP, MORTTIME
Which bathrooms are talking rats allowed to use?

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

FronzelNeekburm posted:

Which bathrooms are talking rats allowed to use?
The ones in Paddy's Pub if they can outrun the guy with the ratting stick.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

colonel_korn posted:

4 In fairness they should have anticipated this given how they named the ship

Putin: "I'm' not touching you I'm' not touching you I'm' not touching you I'm' not touching you -"

Branco: AARGHHH! AAAAAAH! WW3! :siren:

Angular Cyrus
May 29, 2007

everything is so much harder than it looks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4venFPPzfs

Mister Beeg
Sep 7, 2012

A Certified Jerk

Mordiceius posted:

Kelly, I feel, is someone who "you always remember your first time". So what was your first Kelly?

This was mine:


My first Kelly was in the print edition of The Onion that I happened to pick up when I was in New York. Luckily, I saved it because it's not on their website:

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


I dont know posted:

The first text box is "Politics?" So the joke is he's really talking about passover when you, the reader, assume it's about ethnic cleansing. Though with Kirschen that's a safe assumption.

That seems like incredibly poor taste but it flew over my head because I was giving him the benefit of the doubt it was just a lame old man joke.

Poopy Palpy
Jun 10, 2000

Im da fwiggin Poopy Palpy XD

Mister Beeg posted:

My first Kelly was in the print edition of The Onion that I happened to pick up when I was in New York. Luckily, I saved it because it's not on their website:



The corner-Kelly getting gradually fatter is the greatest running joke of all time.

Unkempt
May 24, 2003

...perfect spiral, scientists are still figuring it out...

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

The withdrawal of European Union legions from Britain as part of a re-focusing of imperial power towards the eastern Mediterranean would leave the island nation exposed and vulnerable, and possibly serve as a harbinger of imperial collapse. A Fifth Century Cartoon.

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

loquacius posted:

Thanks for the breakdown of UK politics, guys, that was really interesting :)


honestly, Wise's apparent "being trans is real if and only if you have the operation" and "acceptance of trans people is inevitable but America isn't ready :bahgawd:" views are both more progressive attitudes than we've seen anyone else on that side of the aisle take :shrug:

still not, y'know, good opinions or anything, but surprisingly less terrible than expected from the guy whose #1 most important issue is that we're not beating our children as much as we used to

I think that's giving him too much credit. "If you have the operation" is a high bar to begin with (even excluding the people who don't want GRS) and all it really says is "if I don't know then I guess I can't complain" meaning if they do know they have every right to complain. It's a back-door access to being bigoted shits with impunity with an "it was really their fault for not taking x-steps to not attract my attention" excuse in the fine print.

And his "we'll get their someday, but not today" seems like less of a plea for old-timers to adjust than complaining about the inevitable fall into sin and degradation that awaits our once great nation.

Stroop There It Is
Mar 11, 2012

:gengar::gengar::gengar::gengar::gengar:
:stroop: :gaysper: :stroop:
:gengar::gengar::gengar::gengar::gengar:

oddium posted:



have these people figured out what they want women transitioning to men to do yet
no because we don't exist

also good thing doctors are aware of hormonal sex, Terry

Like, do these people honestly think that trans women get their genitals chopped off and then magically all of their secondary sex characteristics instantly become feminized? Do they not know what sex hormones are?

e: vvv
Well if we're talking older, I would think some of them would know about hormone replacement therapy from its more common use in, you know, menopause...

Stroop There It Is fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Apr 18, 2016

Rudoku
Jun 15, 2003

Damn I need a drink...


seiferguy posted:

The dolphin episode was weird but they did another episode on transgender bathrooms that was actually really good and on point. The moral was "you should act the way that makes you happy, and that includes expressing yourself as a different gender."
poo poo opinions can change in 10 years.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Stroop There It Is posted:

no because we don't exist

also good thing doctors are aware of hormonal sex, Terry

Like, do these people honestly think that trans women get their genitals chopped off and then magically all of their secondary sex characteristics instantly become feminized? Do they not know what sex hormones are?

Probably. The older they are the more likely they have no idea how it works.

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Stroop There It Is posted:

no because we don't exist

also good thing doctors are aware of hormonal sex, Terry

Like, do these people honestly think that trans women get their genitals chopped off and then magically all of their secondary sex characteristics instantly become feminized? Do they not know what sex hormones are?

Yes. I can 100% guarantee there are people who think that's how it works.

The Copper Kaiser
Sep 6, 2010

I am a high-iq mentally retarded adult, and bring to bear on intellectual pursuits the demonic energy that characterizes my species!

This is the reasoning of a sociopath.

D.N. Nation
Feb 1, 2012

oddium posted:



have these people figured out what they want women transitioning to men to do yet

Be subject to horrific, abusive self-denial therapy.

It's cute* on the rare occasion they'll actually admit to this.

*It's not cute.

majormonotone
Jan 25, 2013

Stroop There It Is posted:

e: vvv
Well if we're talking older, I would think some of them would know about hormone replacement therapy from its more common use in, you know, menopause...

Most of these are cismen and as we all know cismen are idiots when it comes to menstruation/menopause/anything related to vaginal health

Not to mention a lot of the old ciswomen are probably unaware of what exactly HRT entails and the fact that it's similar for them as it is for transwomen

Obama 2012
Mar 28, 2002

"I never knew what hope was until it ran out in a red gush over my lips, my hands!"

-Anne Rice, Interview with the President

Please show me again where in the Constitution it says that private political parties are bound to selecting their nominee based on the popular vote.

No, it's okay, I'll wait...

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

majormonotone posted:

Most of these are cismen and as we all know cismen are idiots when it comes to menstruation/menopause/anything related to vaginal health

Not to mention a lot of the old ciswomen are probably unaware of what exactly HRT entails and the fact that it's similar for them as it is for transwomen

That's still not much of an excuse considering how common jokes about women athletes taking testosterone were and still are. It's far more likely that they think just having a penis means being capable of rape, so of course perverts could just go through hormone therapy, walk into a ladies room unchallenged, and then proceed to terrorize all the little girls there with their functional dicks.

FronzelNeekburm
Jun 1, 2001

STOP, MORTTIME

there wolf posted:

I think that's giving him too much credit. "If you have the operation" is a high bar to begin with (even excluding the people who don't want GRS) and all it really says is "if I don't know then I guess I can't complain" meaning if they do know they have every right to complain. It's a back-door access to being bigoted shits with impunity with an "it was really their fault for not taking x-steps to not attract my attention" excuse in the fine print.
You're not wrong, but his point was that Ratman is being more generous with his "IF you somehow have the right genitalia" than the actual laws being passed.

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy
I know, I just don't buy that's it's more generous because I think that's just the 'more reasonable' package on the same poo poo. Speculation, but it's how I feel.

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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Serious competitor in a potentially new "most contemptuous misunderstanding of the United States Constitution" gay abortion category

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