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Pork Pie Hat posted:I may have missed the discussion, but did you see that Telegraph article about how Corbyn has leeched at least £1.5m out of your hard earned taxes, by having the temerity to be paid for his job for the last 34 years? It was as batshit as you're thinking. They even had a backbench Labour MP call it shocking or something. Yeah it was posted earlier in the week. You've downplayed Corbyn's avarice: it wasn't £1.5 million of decent hard working families taxes it was £3 million because as well as claiming a salary he has been spitting in the face of strivers by having a pension. I wonder who their "senior" rent-a-quote Blairite MP is these days now that Danczuk is suspended.
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dispatch_async posted:I wonder who their "senior" rent-a-quote Blairite MP is these days now that Danczuk is suspended. Jess Phillips has geared herself up for the challenge
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Apr 18, 2016 19:46
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Virtue signalling is the trendy new way to dismiss young people's opinions e: ^^ jess isnt really blair affiliated though shes just a standard careerist
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OwlFancier posted:Wait I actually guessed right? No, I was wrong - whatever gutter rag I ended up on last time was wrong, and I have wasted another 2 minutes more of my life in the quest to find out. This is obviously terrible news for Jeremy Corbyn.
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Apr 18, 2016 19:50
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I mean I'm surprised that I actually got peter stringfellow from what you wrote, I'm normally terrible at guessing celebrities.
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Apr 18, 2016 19:52
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with brexit looking increasingly possible should I put off buying a house until after the vote in case the pound plummets in value?
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Apr 18, 2016 19:53
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dispatch_async posted:I wonder who their "senior" rent-a-quote Blairite MP is these days now that Danczuk is suspended. It's Stephen Doughty, I swear that the anonymous source always used to be a member of the shadow cabinet and now it's always a backbench MP.
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Apr 18, 2016 19:55
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Jose posted:with brexit looking increasingly possible should I put off buying a house until after the vote in case the pound plummets in value? did you choose to change your av or was it forced upon you?
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Apr 18, 2016 19:56
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Jose posted:with brexit looking increasingly possible should I put off buying a house until after the vote in case the pound plummets in value? Probably not unless you want to buy somewhere fancy in London which a wealthy banking executive suddenly wants to shift or all your money is in a foreign currency.
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Apr 18, 2016 19:58
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JFairfax posted:did you choose to change your av or was it forced upon you? i've been after a change for a while and i liked hosed up looking homer. i kept the other one in case i decide to change back
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Apr 18, 2016 19:59
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Jose posted:i've been after a change for a while and i liked hosed up looking homer. i kept the other one in case i decide to change back fair enough, and don't let the value of the pound put you off buying a house, unless you were planning on selling up and converting it all to a foreign currency
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Phoon posted:e: ^^ jess isnt really blair affiliated though shes just a standard careerist Do you think so? She seems to have no trouble pissing off people left right and centre to speak loudly about her opinions. I think she's a country mile away from, say, Yvette Cooper.
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Apr 18, 2016 20:05
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What accusations of "Virtue Signalling" usually mean are "I am a terrible person who could never conceive of doing anything not for personal gain, everyone else is exactly like me"
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Is brexit really looking likely? All the odds are against it. I get that all that means is that more people are putting money on stay, plus or minus what analysis they do, but the Leave side is usually more vocal about these things, so it's still pointing to Remain.
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Apr 18, 2016 20:13
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Guavanaut posted:Is brexit really looking likely? All the odds are against it. I get that all that means is that more people are putting money on stay, plus or minus what analysis they do, but the Leave side is usually more vocal about these things, so it's still pointing to Remain. At it's best poll of polling has put it at 55/45 to remain and it's frequently polled at 50/50. I'd say there's every chance of Leave pulling a small lead at some point. http://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/poll-of-polls/
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dispatch_async posted:Yeah it was posted earlier in the week. You've downplayed Corbyn's avarice: it wasn't £1.5 million of decent hard working families taxes it was £3 million because as well as claiming a salary he has been spitting in the face of strivers by having a pension. I especially liked the part where they were trying to make out that because Corbyn got his tax return in late that some how makes him as bad as Cameron because they both goofed with their tax.
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Prince John posted:Do you think so? She seems to have no trouble pissing off people left right and centre to speak loudly about her opinions. I think she's a country mile away from, say, Yvette Cooper. shes pursuing the strategy where you get as much attention as possible as quickly as possible
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Ddraig posted:What accusations of "Virtue Signalling" usually mean are "I am a terrible person who could never conceive of doing anything not for personal gain, everyone else is exactly like me" well it is wes streeting aka exhibit a in the case against student politics
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dispatch_async posted:Yeah it was posted earlier in the week. You've downplayed Corbyn's avarice: it wasn't £1.5 million of decent hard working families taxes it was £3 million because as well as claiming a salary he has been spitting in the face of strivers by having a pension. John Woodcock seems to have quietened down a bit lately which is a bit surprising, though very pleasant.
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Apr 18, 2016 20:44
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it should really be a vote to stay and not remain. what the gently caress they were thinking
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Apr 18, 2016 20:47
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It should have been Yes/No so they could reuse all the signs and logos and save everyone time and money.
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Apr 18, 2016 20:56
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I am going to vote remain, pollsters.
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How I vote is between me and the ballot box.
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Pissflaps posted:How I vote is between me and the ballot box. ... no, you're supposed to put it in the ballot box. Do keep up.
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Pissflaps posted:How I vote is between me and the ballot box. Additionally, do you believe the European Union would make a better leader of the Labour Party than Jeremy Corbyn?
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I have tried whispering sweetly to the ballot box but the volunteers chucked me out.
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Guavanaut posted:Regardless of how you intend to vote, do you think the United Kingdom should remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union? Remain. quote:Additionally, do you believe the European Union would make a better leader of the Labour Party than Jeremy Corbyn? It's worth considering.
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Guavanaut posted:Is brexit really looking likely? All the odds are against it. I get that all that means is that more people are putting money on stay, plus or minus what analysis they do, but the Leave side is usually more vocal about these things, so it's still pointing to Remain. My incredibly well resourced polling data seems to point to three main categories of potential ref voters- 1: People who really really loving hate the EU because it causes muslims, gays and cancer and straight cucumbers and other perversions 2: People who really don't give a gently caress about the EU either way and would probably just accept the status quo 3: People who really loving love the EU and don't even smother their croissants with butter and jam Now group 2 is by far the largest, but their likelihood of them turning out to vote is far less (according to my rigorous polling data) than the super motivated fucknuggets in group 1. Group 3 is small. I can easily see the remain camp sleepwalking into an exit simply by remaining as incompetent as they already have been, with the group 2's just not bothering to go vote in large numbers. The steady tabloid drip feeding of bullshit blaming the EU for so many ills has permeated the loving consciousness of some elements of this nation to an extent I can see an exit happening.
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My socialist group has actually voted to support a Leave position on global internationalist grounds rather than continue to support the EUs economic agenda and terrible non-EU migration policies. It's a position vote rather than demanding everyone campaign and vote for leaving though so we're all trying to come to grips with how to organise around it.
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DesperateDan posted:My incredibly well resourced polling data seems to point to three main categories of potential ref voters- Notably you've said very little about group 3, because they don't exist. The Tories have utterly failed to make a positive case for the EU. Perhaps because the benefits they see and the things they want differ so much from the wants and needs of the average human.
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I still maintain that even if "No" wins the referendum, while the ruling class has an interest in us being in Europe, we won't leave.
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Jeremy Hunt ramps up rhetoric over imposing contract on doctorsquote:Jeremy Hunt has revived his threat to “impose” a new contract on junior doctors, despite government lawyers and his own ministry having said that he was merely “introducing” it.
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Jose posted:it should really be a vote to stay and not remain. what the gently caress they were thinking That's what I was saying. They could even have used the song by pop legends Eternal
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winegums posted:Notably you've said very little about group 3, because they don't exist. The Tories have utterly failed to make a positive case for the EU. Perhaps because the benefits they see and the things they want differ so much from the wants and needs of the average human. The more than 2 million non-UK EU citizens living in the country are probably pretty keen on the UK remaining. Although of course they mostly can't vote.
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They will probably play a part in talking to their friends who can vote and maybe mobilize them. Otoh, a lot of the non-UK non-EU citizens living in the country that I know have been highly critical of the EU and are doing the same.
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CAH and Brexit pushers. How worse can a single image get?
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Pork Pie Hat posted:I still maintain that even if "No" wins the referendum, while the ruling class has an interest in us being in Europe, we won't leave. I think you're right. I think it would prompt some intense negotiations and then a second vote six months down the line.
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Pissflaps posted:I think you're right. I think it would prompt some intense negotiations and then a second vote six months down the line. Honestly, I'd be surprised if there was even a second vote. Referenda aren't legally binding, if parliament did pass a bill about leaving the EU would drag out negotiations until at the very least after the next election in case a pro-EU party won, and if parliament just ignored the referendum result (with a few interviews saying "we've heard the message you sent and we will take your concerns to heart..."), well we've all seen that large scale protests achieve nothing, and any talk of "punishing" the Tories at the next GE have to wait for four years, which is a very long time.
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