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Can we please have another star wars thread where we are only allowed to agree with each other
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Apr 19, 2016 05:33
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Zeris posted:Can we please have another star wars thread where we are only allowed to agree with each other Wtf would be the point of that
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Apr 19, 2016 05:34
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Hat Thoughts posted:Wtf would be the point of that Jesus Christ nerds are dense.
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Apr 19, 2016 05:47
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eyebeem posted:Jesus Christ nerds are dense. If u think they were joking...their post history indicates otherwise.
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Apr 19, 2016 05:59
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They should remake the prequels... As Samurai Dramas. The story of how a scheming courtier usurped the Throne.
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Apr 19, 2016 08:14
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High Lord Elbow posted:If you strip away the visuals and sound effects and just consider the plot and dialogue, the prequels sound like something you would overhear listening to a fairly creative six-year-old playing with his action figures. Makes sense. Since TFA sounds like a thirteen year old's fan fiction.
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Apr 19, 2016 13:17
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eyebeem posted:Jesus Christ nerds are dense. They have a lot going on.
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Apr 19, 2016 14:34
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Zeris posted:Can we please have another star wars thread where we are only allowed to agree with each other It's called the book thread and it's pretty cool. TFA is pretty cool too. It's like the U.S. fighting a proxy war against extremists in Syria whilst being unwilling to commit openly due to war weariness and getting shafted as the situation spirals out of control because they were unwilling to deal with the extremists when they first showed up. What's nice is how this contrasts against the ending of RotJ where Luke puts down his weapons to win a fight. Whilst the whole film isn't in service of this one idea, it is pretty clear and I'd like to see it developed further.
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Apr 19, 2016 15:17
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Nah, that makes too much sense. I like this post a lot
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Apr 19, 2016 15:20
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The prequels are incredibly popular, and provide endless avenues for discussion. The Force Awakens is also incredibly popular, and people talk about it often outside of this thread (and inside this thread, but whatever). Almost no one cares about Avatar.
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Apr 19, 2016 15:45
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Avatar was also incredibly popular.
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Apr 19, 2016 15:49
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cargohills posted:Avatar was also incredibly popular. Was, now no one seems to care and it's left the public consciousness. (News that James Cameron is filming 4 sequels at the same time is mostly being met with, "...really? Do people still care about Avatar?") Which is what SMG was getting at, by comparing it to TFA. Like, who knows, maybe TFA will be the same after 7 years passes, like what has happened for Avatar. But it's not the case yet.
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Apr 19, 2016 15:50
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What the gently caress is Avatar Syndrome? Is it like Zika virus?
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Apr 19, 2016 15:51
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UmOk posted:What the gently caress is Avatar Syndrome? Is it like Zika virus? "Oh yeah, Avatar. I remember that being pretty good...anyway, what's for lunch?"
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Apr 19, 2016 15:55
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thrawn527 posted:Like, who knows, maybe TFA will be the same after 7 years passes, like what has happened for Avatar. But it's not the case yet. You can't really make an assumption that the same won't be true soon enough. e: Although I do think that "Avatar syndrome" won't catch on quite as quickly for TFA because they're actually getting the sequels done promptly instead of sitting around doing nothing for 7 years.
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Apr 19, 2016 15:57
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cargohills posted:You can't really make an assumption that the same won't be true soon enough. My post you quoted made no such claim. Just that it isn't true yet. edit: In fact, it actually says that maybe it will be true. So I don't know what assumption you're talking about.
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Apr 19, 2016 15:59
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Pretty sure TFA will be talked about just as long as long as the prequels. It has primed a new generation of star wars fans that dont like star wars. Two more movies and everybody will be to busy not liking the sequels to bother not liking the prequels.
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Apr 19, 2016 16:03
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I can definitely see TFA suffering from Avatar syndrome if either Rogue One or Ep 8 is a better film. It'll be the one that rebooted Star Wars after a decade (or three if you're a prequel denier) and paved the way for better movies.
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Apr 19, 2016 16:04
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When do we get to the generation of Star Wars fans that don't like the OT? Or only like them ironically?
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Apr 19, 2016 16:04
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Serf posted:When do we get to the generation of Star Wars fans that don't like the OT? Or only like them ironically? After episode 10.
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Apr 19, 2016 16:11
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Serf posted:When do we get to the generation of Star Wars fans that don't like the OT? Or only like them ironically? As a child, I was never really enamored with Star Wars. I enjoyed ANH the best, but all of them kind of plod along for quite a while, ESB being the worst of the bunch. That's why I can see why kids might enjoy TFA more, even if you ignore the age difference of the various films.
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Apr 19, 2016 16:15
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Nah, that makes too much sense. Well put Spikeguy posted:In the Force Awakens, I can pretty much figure out that The First Order are the left overs from the Empire, but who do the Resistance represent? Since the New Republic was destroyed I was having trouble figuring out who they would be fighting for going forward. But seriously, I can't imagine the Republic is outright gone. I mean I guess it could be, but that's ridiculous if that's where they're going with it. The planets can always elect new representatives, and the entire fleet couldn't have been just chilling in that one system. It's should be more of a Pearl Harbor type thing where it takes them out of the fight for a while but then they come back and take care of business. Really, the logical place for this to go is that the Republic itself takes a turn toward facism in response to 9/11 x 1 billion and becomes the actual big bad (again). It's probably what the old white rich dudes funding the New Order have been planning all along. There's a lot of money for those military contractors in replacing half a fleet and building 20 Death Stars for the New Republic. General Dog fucked around with this message at 16:29 on Apr 19, 2016 |
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Apr 19, 2016 16:18
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computer parts posted:As a child, I was never really enamored with Star Wars. I enjoyed ANH the best, but all of them kind of plod along for quite a while, ESB being the worst of the bunch. Yeah I grew up loving the OT, but I was still a kid when the prequels started coming out and they were way more watchable as "fun" movies. Kids I've met these days are even more into the cartoons, and a few had never even seen the movies they are based on.
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Apr 19, 2016 16:22
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Toilet Mouth posted:Well put One of these days I want to see other movies take place inside that Universe that aren't about fighting galactic wars. Because man it must suck to live there. They haven't had any peace for apparently 70+ years.
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Apr 19, 2016 16:33
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Spikeguy posted:One of these days I want to see other movies take place inside that Universe that aren't about fighting galactic wars. Because man it must suck to live there. They haven't had any peace for apparently 70+ years. You have to also remember the scale of the Galaxy though. Like the Alderaan Space 9/11 is equivalent to one of those Iraqi villages being shot up by ISIS in terms of distance and population.
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Apr 19, 2016 16:35
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You know who else did prequels? William Shakespeare. (And before someone makes thar argument, no, I'm not saying Georgie Lucas is anywhere near as good as Willie Shakes, also what the gently caress is wrong with you?) So, back in ye days, William did a series of plays on the history of the War of the Roses, Henry the VI parts 1 to 3 and Richard the Third, which were very well received and are still well-known to this day. They get quoted all the time by everyone. Five to ten years later, he went back to make a new series of plays chronicling the origins of the war: Richard II, Henry IV part 1 and 2 and Henry V. While still very well received and remembered (this is loving Shakespeare here), you don't hear Richard II quoted a soften as Richard III. Likewise, Richard II was seen as a pretty political play, with the scene of Richard giving up the crown omitted in many representations for fear of angering Queen Elizabeth, who was getting old and had no heir. It's weird parallel, with ultimately both prequels being about the usurpation of power leading to a long war and both being taken as comments on political climate of the days instead of general statements. Where am I going with this? Well, one of the major inspirations for Star Wars was Akira Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress. And Kurosawa did some amazing movies transposing Shakespeare plays to feudal japan. Therefore I think it would be really cool to see a Shakespeare adaptation in Star Wars. How's about a Macbeth? Furthermore, a play might make a good medium for the Star Wars prequels, with the fall of the Jedi and the Republic represented as tragedies of old. A quick google search shows someone had the same idea, but it seems to just be one of those "replace all dialogues with bad faux-shakespearian english" thing you see a lot on the internet, not a very good adaptation at all.
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Apr 19, 2016 16:38
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thrawn527 posted:The Force Awakens is also incredibly popular, and people talk about it often outside of this thread (and inside this thread, but whatever). You're writing about Avatar right now. Popularity has nothing to do with making a lot of money, accruing namedrops and "likes" on facebook, or whatever. Popularity is that nebulous quality of actually being liked, which is trickier to isolate. People generally have no idea what they like or dislike, and why. For example, we have the counter-intuitive fact (scientifically proven in this thread) that Star Wars fans do not actually like Star Wars. The gulf between profitability and popularity can reach such an extreme that we have what I term Avatar Syndrome: the case of a film that makes a lot of money without being liked by anybody. And that's the situation with The Force Awakens. People are talking about, like, "who are Rey's biological parents?", and "who are Ren's adoptive parents?". "Is Luke Rey's biological parent?" (Bonus question: "who are FN's biological parents?") You might notice these popular questions have one thing in common: they all concern things that do not actually appear in the film "Star Wars Episode 7: The Force Awakens." What if I told you that we do see Rey's father in the film? It's Unkar Plutt. Unkar Pultt is Rey's adoptive father who took care of her for roughly a decade, but they had some sort of falling out and she went to go live in a junkyard by herself, etc. This is the actual content of the film, and nobody gives a poo poo. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Apr 19, 2016 |
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Apr 19, 2016 16:42
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Who are the people talking about these questions? Whenever I check the star wars tumblr feed its just people raving about Poe, Kylo, Hux, Rey, Finn, & BB-8  Nobody seems to really give a poo poo who Reys parents are?
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Apr 19, 2016 17:16
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Jerkface posted:Whenever I check the star wars tumblr feed Brother, I don't believe I'd have told that
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Apr 19, 2016 17:21
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Toilet Mouth posted:Brother, I don't believe I'd have told that Tumblr is great, bud. Follow cool people like comic artists who post frames & covers from their upcoming work without all the speech bubbles, and weird doodlers.
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Apr 19, 2016 17:25
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Jerkface posted:Who are the people talking about these questions? Whenever I check the star wars tumblr feed its just people raving about Poe, Kylo, Hux, Rey, Finn, & BB-8 Imagine if The Something Awful Forums was the only place you read about anything.
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Apr 19, 2016 17:27
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Jerkface posted:Nobody seems to really give a poo poo who Reys parents are? CNN does.
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Apr 19, 2016 17:40
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I care about Unkor Plot.
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Apr 19, 2016 17:44
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Ep8 set, Rey's mom confirmed an a-wing and chewie is her dad https://twitter.com/nickthebassist / https://twitter.com/aliarikan   and clothes turtlecrunch fucked around with this message at 18:10 on Apr 19, 2016 |
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Apr 19, 2016 18:08
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:CNN does. I was going to make this point, but yea news agencies wanting click-bait & hyping up 'mysteries' are the only "people" talking about this with any regularity. Which is their job, since CNN is not going to run a monthly article on 'Wow wasnt TFA so great?' If we go back in time all the articles about the prequels were "This poo poo sucks" so I guess all people could talk about back then was how much the prequels sucked.
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Apr 19, 2016 18:13
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oh yeah and win trip to lucasfilm for donating to charity https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4giTfo7a70
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Apr 19, 2016 18:22
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That A Wing looks pretty much like the old ones, but the paints have been switch around.
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Apr 19, 2016 18:24
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Rogue One and Episode VIII are obviously going to be better because they're directed by actual film directors. The Force Awakens was a feature length TV pilot for Star Wars: The Next Generation. It had a definite case of pilot syndrome, with the showrunners not quite being sure what they wanted to do, and also an awkward passing of the torch from the previous series' major characters. and then of course it sets up an obvious hook for the rest of the series. And there were a bunch of characters, but only a few of them had space to breath and develop.
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Apr 19, 2016 18:27
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:You're writing about Avatar right now. Knock this off. I wrote about it because you mentioned it. SuperMechagodzilla posted:Popularity has nothing to do with making a lot of money, accruing namedrops and "likes" on facebook, or whatever. Popularity is that nebulous quality of actually being liked, which is trickier to isolate. People generally have no idea what they like or dislike, and why. For example, we have the counter-intuitive fact (scientifically proven in this thread) that Star Wars fans do not actually like Star Wars. Ah, right, so we're back to you saying what people like. "popularity, noun: the state or condition of being liked, admired, or supported by many people." People are talking about The Force Awakens. A lot. They may not be talking about it in the way you want them to. But they are talking about it. People like it. You can make a point that they like it for the wrong reasons. That they're being bated by nostalgia, hitting repeated story beats. Or that it's because it's a safe movie. But they like the movie. They're talking about the movie. Yes, they are also talking about things like "Who are Rey's biological parents", because it's a mystery this movie set up. Whether they should or not, people like mysteries in their movies. The Force Awakens introduces mysteries, of course people are going to talk about them. If you're saying people aren't really discussing the themes from the movie itself, I mean, fine. If you're saying they don't understand what it is they like about the movie, fine. Like, I'm not getting into an argument about if it's good or not, because while I love it, I know you can talk circles around people and I'm just not getting into it. But the argument that it's not popular or well liked is, overall, false. Look at box office receipts (which I seem to remember you using as evidence the prequels were popular a while back, but I'm not trolling through you post history to find it.) Toys are every where. Tons of people bought it to watch again at home. At least for the moment, people really like TFA. It's quite popular. thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 18:34 on Apr 19, 2016 |
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Apr 19, 2016 18:30
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Spatula City posted:Rogue One and Episode VIII are obviously going to be better because they're directed by actual film directors. The Force Awakens was a feature length TV pilot for Star Wars: The Next Generation. It had a definite case of pilot syndrome, with the showrunners not quite being sure what they wanted to do, and also an awkward passing of the torch from the previous series' major characters. and then of course it sets up an obvious hook for the rest of the series. And there were a bunch of characters, but only a few of them had space to breath and develop. It's even possible that after Rogue One, TFA will forevermore be the worst Disney Star War.
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