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The PCs put forward a motion which was amended by the government immediately thereafter before it could be debated in any way. The motion would have been planned in advance so government had a chance to draw up plans to amend it in advance which they did and had the speaker (also government) approve it and had amended motions printed and distributed in advance. It's a dumb motion but it was pretty lovely of the government to do what they did.
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cowofwar posted:The PCs put forward a motion which was amended by the government immediately thereafter before it could be debated in any way. The motion would have been planned in advance so government had a chance to draw up plans to amend it in advance which they did and had the speaker (also government) approve it and had amended motions printed and distributed in advance. It's an actively harmful motion, as it's about advancing the role of charter schools, private schools and home schooling, all of which are bad things, so I'm okay with some NDP trickery in this case. Also, reacting to it by throwing a tantrum would be ridiculous even considering his complaint may be valid.
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Apr 19, 2016 16:28
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It's been fascinating watching extremely politically advanced masterminds scramble to be as anti-PT6A as possible that they're supporting a lenient punishment for a man who raped a little girl and then beat her unconscious to the point of brain damage and left her to freeze naked in the snow. Ikantski posted:Certainly gives an insight to the thousands of other missing and murdered indigenous women. The inquiry is definitely worth the millions if they can find some kind of solution to these regular tragedies. Considering that many of the crimes against indigenous women are committed by indigenous men, it seems it would be extremely problematic and oppressive to investigate these crimes.
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Apr 19, 2016 16:29
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Brannock posted:It's been fascinating watching extremely politically advanced masterminds scramble to be as anti-PT6A as possible that they're supporting a lenient punishment for a man who raped a little girl and then beat her unconscious to the point of brain damage and left her to freeze naked in the snow. quote:Canadian Criminal Code posted: Obviously deterrence doesn't work in my opinion in cases like this but that's the code. cowofwar fucked around with this message at 16:38 on Apr 19, 2016 |
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Apr 19, 2016 16:33
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InfiniteZero posted:I'd actually go with none of the above. All along, he's appealed to dumb shortsighted people with his tactics as opposition leader and premiership candidate, and selling off a crown corp is easy even for dummies to figure out so he'll probably steer clear. I think instead he's going to gut education and healthcare instead, mostly in ways people won't understand because they'd have to do math and poo poo to figure it out. If he gets a second mandate, then he'll start pillaging crown corps. I'm actually giddy with the idea that Drew Caldwell might lose his seat Dude hosed up a cabinet position so bad they took it away from him, he's an idiot, an embarrassment to the party and the holder of what is essentially a dynastic NDP seat that's been there for 30 years. E: meanwhile I'm watching to see if Pallister gives the other MLA a cabinet position, if he doesn't I'm guessing this government will be poo poo from the get-go (Minister of Agriculture please  )
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Apr 19, 2016 16:36
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Brannock posted:Considering that many of the crimes against indigenous women are committed by indigenous men, it seems it would be extremely problematic and oppressive to investigate these crimes. Holy poo poo, why would we even do an inquiry? You unlocked the mystery that has eluded us for years! Let's just shovel some more money into the system and let the indigenous people just figure it out themselves. *pats back*
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Apr 19, 2016 16:42
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https://twitter.com/CBCPolitics/status/722446182971154432 lol
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Apr 19, 2016 16:44
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The number seems alarming, but they likely went from investigating nothing to investigating a couple cases. Now HERE is a real story quote:http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-political-party-fundraising-largest-donors-1.3540674 Why the federal legislation that prevented such donations didn't 'trickle down' to encompass provincial politics is absolutely astonishing.
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Apr 19, 2016 16:50
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Politics gets more corrupt the smaller scale it is. An MP gets a lot of attention, a treasurer in some bumfuck town gets none and can run a con for decades.
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Apr 19, 2016 16:57
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DariusLikewise posted:Holy poo poo, why would we even do an inquiry? You unlocked the mystery that has eluded us for years! Let's just shovel some more money into the system and let the indigenous people just figure it out themselves. *pats back* I agree, the white Canadian devil should have absolutely nothing to do with the First Nations.
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Apr 19, 2016 17:12
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cowofwar posted:Politics gets more corrupt the smaller scale it is. An MP gets a lot of attention, a treasurer in some bumfuck town gets none and can run a con for decades. Yep! The gold standard here is probably Rita Crundwell, who swindled the town in Illinois she worked for out of $54 million over 22 years. That's nearly five years' worth of their entire municipal budget (uncompensated for inflation). She spent the money on quarter horse breeding and, after pleading guilty, was sentenced to nearly 20 years in jail. For double irony, it was apparently Reagan's childhood home. https://www.cpa2biz.com/Content/media/PRODUCER_CONTENT/Newsletters/Articles_2013/ForensicValuation/54-million-dollar-fraud.jsp
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Apr 19, 2016 17:20
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Turns out that we do now have a case of Uber failing to defend one of its drivers using its much-touted automatic insurance policy: http://stlawyers.ca/uber-insurance/ So, that's that I guess. Uber is a very lovely company after all, I don't think I'll be using them any more.
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Apr 19, 2016 17:51
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David Corbett posted:For double irony, it was apparently Reagan's childhood home. Pffft ... surely some of that $54 million would trickle down anyway.
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Apr 19, 2016 17:57
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maybe those natives just need some more education of some sort maybe through some sort of government sponsored religious school lol
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Apr 19, 2016 17:59
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In Montreal, there's been a newcomer in the taxi scene. Teo Taxi basically uses only electric vehicles, they have a smartphone app like Uber's, their drivers are paid a fair wage, wear a uniform and are courteous. No talking on the phone, no driving like a maniac for their next fare. The cars themselves have wi-fi, are always spotless and apparently they're planning to roll out touch screens for the passengers. And unlike Uber, they do have insurance and they comply to the local taxi license scheme (by renting them). Despite all of these horribly expensive measures that Uber just couldn't possibly afford, it turns out that they're actually breaking even! You can compete and innovate without acting a bag of dicks, yeah.
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Apr 19, 2016 18:01
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Jan posted:You can compete and innovate without acting a bag of dicks, yeah. You cannot however generate a growth story for VC investors that values you greater than the entire world-wide livery market, as Uber have done.
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Apr 19, 2016 18:08
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Jan posted:In Montreal, there's been a newcomer in the taxi scene. Teo Taxi basically uses only electric vehicles, they have a smartphone app like Uber's, their drivers are paid a fair wage, wear a uniform and are courteous. No talking on the phone, no driving like a maniac for their next fare. The cars themselves have wi-fi, are always spotless and apparently they're planning to roll out touch screens for the passengers. And unlike Uber, they do have insurance and they comply to the local taxi license scheme (by renting them). Despite all of these horribly expensive measures that Uber just couldn't possibly afford, it turns out that they're actually breaking even! Nice, I'll have to check that out when I'm in Montreal in June. Supposedly the opening of the market in Calgary is going to encourage more companies to come here, but so far no one's actually done so (EDIT: The existing companies have dropped their prices across the board, though, which is cool and good). We should get this taxi company to set up shop, because they wouldn't even have to lease taxi licenses any more. Does the app handle payment as well? That's the one thing that's missing from all the taxi company apps in Calgary.
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Apr 19, 2016 18:10
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Brannock posted:It's been fascinating watching extremely politically advanced masterminds scramble to be as anti-PT6A as possible that they're supporting a lenient punishment for a man who raped a little girl and then beat her unconscious to the point of brain damage and left her to freeze naked in the snow. Who actually cares though
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Brannock posted:I agree, the white Canadian devil should have absolutely nothing to do with the First Nations. The Canadian Government has always been fair and completely impartial with the indigenous community throughout history. PT6A posted:Turns out that we do now have a case of Uber failing to defend one of its drivers using its much-touted automatic insurance policy: Uber drivers don't need Taxi insurance, Uber provides unlimited insurance for all!
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PT6A posted:Turns out that we do now have a case of Uber failing to defend one of its drivers using its much-touted automatic insurance policy:
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PT6A posted:Turns out that we do now have a case of Uber failing to defend one of its drivers using its much-touted automatic insurance policy: I'm getting a bullshit vibe from that. a) Ottawa taxi drivers are super salty after council voted to create dual licensing last week (http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/live-council-votes-on-bylaw-changes-that-would-make-uber-legal). b) In January, his passenger's lawyer called him to tell him they'd be suing (do lawyers call people for that? I always get registered letters whenever people want to sue me.) c) Now in April, "More specifically, we asked if they would defend Kirit if and when a lawsuit by his passenger is started." Of course Uber isn't responding because there is no lawsuit. All this to say that Uber may be bad but my opinion of Ottawa cabbies is far lower. Postess with the Mostest fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Apr 19, 2016 |
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Apr 19, 2016 18:20
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Kenny Logins posted:I am in no way defending Uber, but according to the article, Uber ('s insurer) has had at most since March 22nd to respond, and they haven't actually rejected the claim. They just haven't provided any response to it yet (as of April 15). Would you expect anything less than a knee-jerk response from PT6A, even when it's the version of events as told by the defendant's legal counsel?
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Ikantski posted:c) Now in April, "More specifically, we asked if they would defend Kirit if and when a lawsuit by his passenger is started." Of course Uber isn't responding because there is no lawsuit. Expecting an answer in less than 30 days from an insurance company, especially for a claim where they will want to obtain a coverage opinion, is something any lawyer with any experience in that industry would know to be utter fantasy. blah_blah posted:Would you expect anything less than a knee-jerk response from PT6A, even when it's the version of events as told by the defendant's legal counsel?
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Apr 19, 2016 18:27
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PT6A posted:Nice, I'll have to check that out when I'm in Montreal in June. Checker Yellow and Mayfair will be getting in app payment soon.
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David Corbett posted:Yep! Quarter horses?? Sweet animals, but over-hyped and look like bulldogs on hooves. Not the breed I'd choose to risk jail for. All horse people are "special". I'm in awe of how much of an outlier this woman was.
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Apr 19, 2016 19:03
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Normy posted:Checker Yellow and Mayfair will be getting in app payment soon. Good. I like Checker. Associated can go eat a bag of assholes.
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Apr 19, 2016 19:07
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Jan posted:In Montreal, there's been a newcomer in the taxi scene. Teo Taxi basically uses only electric vehicles, they have a smartphone app like Uber's, their drivers are paid a fair wage, wear a uniform and are courteous. No talking on the phone, no driving like a maniac for their next fare. The cars themselves have wi-fi, are always spotless and apparently they're planning to roll out touch screens for the passengers. And unlike Uber, they do have insurance and they comply to the local taxi license scheme (by renting them). Despite all of these horribly expensive measures that Uber just couldn't possibly afford, it turns out that they're actually breaking even! Doesn't Uber barely make profit? If you're charging taxi rates you're not competing with Uber, you're competing with taxis.
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AFAIK Uber is, has been, and will continue to be unprofitable. Whether the UberX, UberBlack, and UberTaxi services are break-even themselves, fighting lawsuits on six contents isn't. Not to mention things like UberHop and UberWAV, which are competing with bus service, and have expensive accessibility requirements (At UberX fares) respectively are guaranteed money losers.
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yeah Uber is essentially trying to pull a wallmart and bust in with rates that they lose money on until they are the only game in town, then presumably pivot to driverless cars and higher fares. I'm glad that this is likely to fail, but has prompted updates like apps for taxi companies and loosening of some of the regulatory capture that had infested the industry. who knows how it'll all play out though
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A private member's bill in Queen's Park to undo the dog breed ban is picking up steamquote:http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/ontario-mpps-support-end-to-pit-bull-ban-1.1167153 There aren't t any new data or magical revelations that have inspired these proposed changes to the DOLA. Just the knowledge that it was a stupid idea then and that the nature of its stupid really hasn't changed in the last decade.
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:yeah Uber is essentially trying to pull a wallmart and bust in with rates that they lose money on until they are the only game in town, then presumably pivot to driverless cars and higher fares. I'm glad that this is likely to fail, but has prompted updates like apps for taxi companies and loosening of some of the regulatory capture that had infested the industry. who knows how it'll all play out though Yeah, although I'm skeptical of the city council's behavior in Calgary, the fact is we're getting looser restrictions on taxis, lower prices, and apps. This is a good direction, but it's unfortunate it had to take so long and require such a threat to the status quo before they moved on it. Edit: I like my new title, thanks to whoever bought it. Notley Crue was getting a bit dated.
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flakeloaf posted:A private member's bill in Queen's Park to undo the dog breed ban is picking up steam Picking up steam... in 2012! 
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I'd be OK with more breed bans targeting the genetic dead end breeds that are born into a life of suffering.
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flakeloaf posted:A private member's bill in Queen's Park to undo the dog breed ban is picking up steam Did anything happen in the four years since that article was published? e:f;b
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more like dICK posted:I'd be OK with more breed bans targeting the genetic dead end breeds that are born into a life of suffering. Same here, I'd ban huskies and beagles and basically everything that isn't a lab. And ferrets. Just to annoy the type of people who own ferrets.
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more like dICK posted:I'd be OK with more breed bans targeting the genetic dead end breeds that are born into a life of suffering. So basically all purebreds? I'd be okay with that too actually.
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Ikantski posted:Same here, I'd ban huskies and beagles and basically everything that isn't a lab. And ferrets. Just to annoy the type of people who own ferrets. I know a guy with a husky/lab/golden mutt and she's such a great dog. Mutts are the best.
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PT6A posted:So basically all purebreds? I'd be okay with that too actually. Pretty much.
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Subjunctive posted:Did anything happen in the four years since that article was published? Oh gently caress me. It bubbled to the top of my newsfeed and I thought something useful was about to happen. I like this. flakeloaf fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Apr 19, 2016 |
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A ban on cats would actually be more beneficial than any dog breed as they kill so many native animals. And if you've ever been in a house of someone who owns a cat you know how disgusting their place smells because of cat piss.
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