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Joementum posted:It already happens in a lot of states: they're called caucuses. Yeah but caucuses are loving awful so imagine every state doing one
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Joementum posted:This is why we should stop states from having to pay for the drat things and force the parties to run their own elections. fifty caucus states 
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yes dear we get it, you don't understand politics
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Joementum posted:It already happens in a lot of states: they're called caucuses. caucuses only ironically own. parties are quasi-public institutions and should be held to higher election standards. although you can't force parties to hold open primaries, they should.
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Fullhouse posted:Yeah but caucuses are loving awful so imagine every state doing one That's pretty much how it worked for over a hundred years, albeit the caucus attendees were actual party members instead of just anyone who checked a box while registering to vote
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it's sad to see the chances of our democracy surviving weakening with every hour
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Caucuses would be better run if parties just charged 10$/year to join. They'd have much lower turnout, for one.
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fishmech posted:yes dear we get it, you don't understand politics Says the creature voting for the epitome of corruption:  .
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fishmech posted:yes dear we get it, you don't understand politics fishmech insanely understands politics lol. like so hard.
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lol just lol if you aren't a beneficiary of hillary's corrupt largesse
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I'm glad that people like Sky and Immortan at least like Sanders this election because the usual "YOU KNOW WHO CONTROLS THE REAL POWER HERE KEEPING THE VOICE OF TRUTH DOWN" act is more interesting when they have to balance "Jew York elites  " with voting for a Jew.
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remove party affiliation from voter registration entirely and let everyone vote however the hell they drat well want Still probably only let someone vote in one party's primary though, as funny as it would be to see each party trying to baddraft candidates for the other
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Fullhouse posted:Yeah but caucuses are loving awful so imagine every state doing one They don't have to be as awful as the idiotic rules the Democrats use. The Kentucky GOP caucus (thanks, Randy!) was well run this year. It had polling locations that were open all day, you could come in and vote any time you wanted, used a secret ballot, and awarded delegates proportionally with a low viability threshold. It's a good model that other state parties should copy.
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Concerned Citizen posted:lol just lol if you aren't a beneficiary of hillary's corrupt largesse
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Lol if it's 2016 and u aren't receiving constant kickbacks from assorted political machines you support, get with the times guys
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Skyl3lazer posted:it's sad to see the chances of our democracy surviving weakening with every hour fishmech can u ban this sick filth
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zen death robot posted:So what makes this not a primary the party has to pay for it instead of the state
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I'm glad that people like Sky and Immortan at least like Sanders this election because the usual "YOU KNOW WHO CONTROLS THE REAL POWER HERE KEEPING THE VOICE OF TRUTH DOWN" act is more interesting when they have to balance "Jew York elites It's great that you're so enthusiastic for a sketchy, flip-flopping, opportunistic, corporate shill like Hillary who doesn't give a thorough gently caress about poor people.
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Skyl3lazer posted:it's sad to see the chances of our democracy surviving weakening with every hour
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I voted for Hillary, hell I voted for her 8 times.
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Skyl3lazer posted:it's sad to see the chances of our democracy surviving weakening with every hour i'm sorry, did the bernie sanders campaign win their lawsuit to allow only white college students to vote?
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zen death robot posted:So what makes this not a primary It's managed and paid for by the party, rather than the state. This gives the party some advantages: for instance they can conduct politicking in the polling locations and sign participants up for volunteer work, stuff that the state typically prohibits.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I'm glad that people like Sky and Immortan at least like Sanders this election because the usual "YOU KNOW WHO CONTROLS THE REAL POWER HERE KEEPING THE VOICE OF TRUTH DOWN" act is more interesting when they have to balance "Jew York elites yes, the implication that I am an antisemite is definitely strengthening your rational argument. justify to yourself ignoring the thousands of millions crying out for a chance at a better future. they're allowed to cry out so long as it's quieter than your tv, is that it?
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pathetic little tramp posted:I voted for Hillary, hell I voted for her 8 times. nice! you should have bought the $10k early bird upgrade last year though, it gives you double votes
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Pinterest Mom posted:Caucuses would be better run if parties just charged 10$/year to join. They'd have much lower turnout, for one. What about a literacy test
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Joementum posted:They don't have to be as awful as the idiotic rules the Democrats use. The Kentucky GOP caucus (thanks, Randy!) was well run this year. It had polling locations that were open all day, you could come in and vote any time you wanted, used a secret ballot, and awarded delegates proportionally with a low viability threshold. It's a good model that other state parties should copy. what the gently caress is the point of a caucus if it isn't a thousand people crammed into a highschool gym divided into cliques and screaming at each other? or I guess the alternative, weird wilderness caucuses where two guys show up to vote for the same person so they high-five and go to the pub?? If my democracy is going to be fundamentally dysfunctional then by god I want it to be entirely dysfunctional
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pathetic little tramp posted:I voted for Hillary, hell I voted for her 8 times. lol if you paid to remove the ads for $5,000
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I'm glad that people like Sky and Immortan at least like Sanders this election because the usual "YOU KNOW WHO CONTROLS THE REAL POWER HERE KEEPING THE VOICE OF TRUTH DOWN" act is more interesting when they have to balance "Jew York elites Exposing 's laundry list of donors is apparently antisemitism now. At least you're not  'ing over 'tone' anymore. 
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pathetic little tramp posted:I voted for Hillary, hell I voted for her 8 times. Dude you didn't the Clinton Foundation Bundle? You get the bonus votes and the ability to call in a one done strike every six months.
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Joementum posted:It's managed and paid for by the party, rather than the state. This gives the party some advantages: for instance they can conduct politicking in the polling locations and sign participants up for volunteer work, stuff that the state typically prohibits. i think the main thing is although state elections aren't perfect, there is too little legal consequence for shenanigans in a caucus. parties are too entrenched to give them control over how the ballots are counted, so to speak. it should be done by a neutral third party (i.e the government)
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Immortan posted:Exposing hillary's donor list has a very high percentage of satanists. because she is satan, you see
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zen death robot posted:There aren't billions of voters in the us, or people for that matter wake up sheeple
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bernie sanders is a lovely liberal and it's hillarious that anyone thinks he's the last hope for anything besides "having an old white man be president with a d after his name"
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Dude you didn't the Clinton Foundation Bundle? You get the bonus votes and the ability to call in a one done strike every six months. As a platinum member of the Clinton Foundation I also get to to gently caress the poor. As in literally go to a Clinton Foundation debtors prison and have intercourse with them.
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Concerned Citizen posted:caucuses only ironically own. parties are quasi-public institutions and should be held to higher election standards. although you can't force parties to hold open primaries, they should. I don't think parties should hold open primaries. The party primary process exists to give a voice to the party members. Your registered Democrats/Republicans are going to be the ones most likely to be getting out and voting for you in the general election, midterms, special elections etc., so shouldn't the party find the candidate that is acceptable to the majority of those people? A party is not just a general election candidate, but a nationwide machine that is built and funded by party members. If I had kids the Teacher's Union's decisions and leadership would affect them. I'm not a teacher, but should I still be able to vote in their elections? That said, I do think a party switch registration deadline 6 months is ridiculous. 30 days is sufficient, and if a voter is not going to pay attention until a week before - too bad.
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fishmech posted:bernie sanders is a lovely liberal and it's hillarious that anyone thinks he's the last hope for anything besides "having an old white man be president with a d after his name" your accelerationist attitude won't work in a wold with nuclear weapons, which also happens to be on the brink of environmental oblivion
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i actually thought it would be really cool to have an agnostic president (i assume bernie was agnostic from his comments). does hillary fake religion?
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Skyl3lazer posted:yes, the implication that I am an antisemite is definitely strengthening your rational argument. justify to yourself ignoring the thousands of millions crying out for a chance at a better future. they're allowed to cry out so long as it's quieter than your tv, is that it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feY5KhdXsUQ&t=37s
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logikv9 posted:hillary's donor list has a very high percentage of satanists. because she is satan, you see hail satan 
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