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prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

SirDan3k posted:

And dollars to doughnuts whatever it was will be just mindbogglingly dumb like everything about that event.

I can't imagine anything you could say to Thor that would make him unworthy. His worthiness is not determined by him -- it's Odin's magic in the hammer that makes the decision. Thor doesn't have to know that he's unworthy -- he'll find out when he tries to pick up Mjolnir. This kind of thing happened to Beta Ray Bill when he was on the hunt for Galactus.

:spergin:

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ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

prefect posted:

I can't imagine anything you could say to Thor that would make him unworthy. His worthiness is not determined by him -- it's Odin's magic in the hammer that makes the decision. Thor doesn't have to know that he's unworthy -- he'll find out when he tries to pick up Mjolnir. This kind of thing happened to Beta Ray Bill when he was on the hunt for Galactus.

:spergin:

I assume it is something said to him that makes him change how he thinks and THAT makes him unworthy, not that it was something unworthy he did he didn't know about.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Something like Doesn't it feel awesome to be worthy?—something that makes it a point of pride. Being Thor becomes a selfish, unworthy thing if you feel superior to anyone who can't lift the hammer or just take that hammer-endorsement as a magical confirmation that you're :krad: amazing.

Jane's dying from Thorness, which makes it about as selfless as becoming a literal god can be.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

prefect posted:

I can't imagine anything you could say to Thor that would make him unworthy. His worthiness is not determined by him -- it's Odin's magic in the hammer that makes the decision.
It's specifically not Odin's magic any more, which is what I was talking about. Odin's in a complete rage over both Thor losing the hammer and Jane having it.

SirDan3k
Jan 6, 2001

Trust me, you are taking this a lot more seriously then I am.

Squizzle posted:

Something like Doesn't it feel awesome to be worthy?—something that makes it a point of pride. Being Thor becomes a selfish, unworthy thing if you feel superior to anyone who can't lift the hammer or just take that hammer-endorsement as a magical confirmation that you're :krad: amazing.

Jane's dying from Thorness, which makes it about as selfless as becoming a literal god can be.


Except when it's brought up it's treated like an addiction and not as a selfless act. The whole narrative is all over the place.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

SirDan3k posted:

Except when it's brought up it's treated like an addiction and not as a selfless act. The whole narrative is all over the place.

Can't it be both?

SirDan3k
Jan 6, 2001

Trust me, you are taking this a lot more seriously then I am.

bobkatt013 posted:

Can't it be both?

I have a hard time seeing the selflessness of "I'm slowly killing myself with an addiction to heroine"

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

bobkatt013 posted:

Can't it be both?
I think it is. Thor is needed, Jane is fantastic at being Thor, and she's saving lives, but it's also killing her and making her act in ways she feels uncomfortable with, and she's too high on the hammer to care. Those are all true statements.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

SirDan3k posted:

I have a hard time seeing the selflessness of "I'm slowly killing myself with an addiction to superheroine"

site
Apr 6, 2007

Trans pride, Worldwide
Bitch
You know it didn't occur to me until just now, thinking about gwenpool's knowledge of the MU being a fictional place, I wonder of antiman, Galactus, and Eternity are eluding to also knowing that fact in ultimates #5.

plainswalker75
Feb 22, 2003

Pigs are smarter than Bears, but they can't ride motorcycles
Hair Elf

CapnAndy posted:

I think it is. Thor is needed, Jane is fantastic at being Thor, and she's saving lives, but it's also killing her and making her act in ways she feels uncomfortable with, and she's too high on the hammer to care. Those are all true statements.

So, Mjolnir is killing her because she has cancer and it's purging the anti-cancer drugs from her system when she transforms, right? Or is the hammer itself directly causing her cancer? Couldn't she just stay powered up as Thor until she has time to set aside to do the chemo properly/a cure for cancer is discovered?

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

plainswalker75 posted:

So, Mjolnir is killing her because she has cancer and it's purging the anti-cancer drugs from her system when she transforms, right? Or is the hammer itself directly causing her cancer? Couldn't she just stay powered up as Thor until she has time to set aside to do the chemo properly/a cure for cancer is discovered?
It's the first one. Chemo is poison, as soon as she transforms Mjolnir purges all the poison from her body and leaves the cancer a clear field when she turns back. And yes, she could concievably stay Thor all the time, but Jane Foster has important work to do too and her absence would be noted. And putting aside the hammer until the chemo does its job and she's in remission is also an option, except for how people are dying right now and also she enjoys it too much.

prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

CapnAndy posted:

It's the first one. Chemo is poison, as soon as she transforms Mjolnir purges all the poison from her body and leaves the cancer a clear field when she turns back. And yes, she could concievably stay Thor all the time, but Jane Foster has important work to do too and her absence would be noted. And putting aside the hammer until the chemo does its job and she's in remission is also an option, except for how people are dying right now and also she enjoys it too much.

Reminds me a little of Captain Marvel; his Nega-Bands were slowing the progress of the cancer, but they were also preventing treatments from working. :(

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
Hey, bringing back the 90's, you'll be happy to know that Lady Death is getting a reboot this week through Coffin Comics!
http://comics.gocollect.com/priceguide/view/952447

Picklepuss
Jul 12, 2002

Uthor posted:

Hey, bringing back the 90's, you'll be happy to know that Lady Death is getting a reboot this week through Coffin Comics!
http://comics.gocollect.com/priceguide/view/952447
I'm guessing we'll never see her reunited with the other Chaos characters.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Picklepuss posted:

I'm guessing we'll never see her reunited with the other Chaos characters.

Whomever owns the LD rights wants far more than Dynamite is willing to pay for them.

Air Skwirl
May 13, 2007

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed shitposting.

Rhyno posted:

Whomever owns the LD rights wants far more than Dynamite is willing to pay for them.

Is there any advantage for Dynamite in owning the rights to Lady Death as opposed to just publishing whatever they were planning for Lady Death as Miss Macbre or whatever with a different design for the almost literally 0 clothes she's wearing? Does Lady Death have a following?

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Skwirl posted:

Is there any advantage for Dynamite in owning the rights to Lady Death as opposed to just publishing whatever they were planning for Lady Death as Miss Macbre or whatever with a different design for the almost literally 0 clothes she's wearing? Does Lady Death have a following?

They own every other Chaos Comics! property and actively pursued the Lady Death rights. There was some behind the scenes fuckery in the Chaos bankruptcy that pushed LD apart from the rest of their properties. She had a fairly huge following 15 years ago. These days I have no idea. The new book tomorrow has the original writer back in the saddle so that might be enough to being some fans back.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Nick Fury told Thor he could introduce him to Aerosmith.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Alice Cooper.

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




Rhyno posted:

The new book tomorrow has the original writer back in the saddle so that might be enough to being some fans back.

Alan Moore has found the next step lower after self-published pornographic fan-fiction, and Feel Like Makin' Lovecraft fishbeast rape fantasies.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Ghostlight posted:

Alice Cooper.

They did both!

muscles like this!
Jan 17, 2005


Uthor posted:

Hey, bringing back the 90's, you'll be happy to know that Lady Death is getting a reboot this week through Coffin Comics!
http://comics.gocollect.com/priceguide/view/952447

Maybe she actually will get naked in this comic seeing as they have a nipple cover variant.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

muscles like this? posted:

nipple cover variant
Good band name.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009

Skwirl posted:

Is there any advantage for Dynamite in owning the rights to Lady Death as opposed to just publishing whatever they were planning for Lady Death as Miss Macbre or whatever with a different design for the almost literally 0 clothes she's wearing? Does Lady Death have a following?

They literally have a character like this. Basically a Lady Death with the serial number filed off, I assume made up when they said "gently caress that, keep her" to the owner. (I read all of Swords of Sorrow, which had the Chaos chicks as the villain's heavies. And I have like 5 issues of the Chaos series that they got Tim Seeley to do, as a result of a billion different Dynamite bundles all tossing it in)

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

muscles like this? posted:

Maybe she actually will get naked in this comic seeing as they have a nipple cover variant.

There were a dozen naked LD variants back in the day.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Man the Bad Girls trend was really weird to live through. Dozens of tiny little publishers that would never have made a loving ripple in comic shops otherwise were getting variant covers and writeups in Wizard just because they had some half naked lady mascot.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Travis343 posted:

Man the Bad Girls trend was really weird to live through. Dozens of tiny little publishers that would never have made a loving ripple in comic shops otherwise were getting variant covers and writeups in Wizard just because they had some half naked lady mascot.

Publishers would pay for those Wizard reviews.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Corruption in hobbyist magazines???? :eyepop:

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


I remember lots of ads for Dawn. The art seemed pretty.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

Die Laughing posted:

I remember lots of ads for Dawn. The art seemed pretty.

It was all the exact same piece of art though right? Like for years I had no idea what Dawn was except for this one picture which was in every ad. You know the one. It's the only one. I'm convinced of it.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Die Laughing posted:

I remember lots of ads for Dawn. The art seemed pretty.

The creator of Dawn drew the issue of Harley's Black Book that's out tomorrow.

X-O
Apr 28, 2002

Long Live The King!

The key to Bad Girl comics? Tits and low print runs!

Open Marriage Night
Sep 18, 2009

"Do you want to talk to a spider, Peter?"


It took me a long time before I realized that Kabuki wasn't a Bad Girl book. Don't think I knew the difference between Kabuki and Shi.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Gary Numan's album Sacrifice was released in the US as "Dawn", not only with a different piece of Dawn art than appears in the ubiquitous ads, but different art for each song page in the CD booklet and limited edition Chromium cover.



Full disclosure: I have a Gary Numan signed Crypt of Dawn comic.

Unmature
May 9, 2008

Ghostlight posted:

Corruption in hobbyist magazines???? :eyepop:

It's about ethics in comic book journalism.

purple death ray
Jul 28, 2007

me omw 2 steal ur girl

Unmature posted:

It's about ethics in comic book journalism.

How's that low hanging fruit taste

Fsmhunk
Jul 19, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Travis343 posted:

How's that low hanging fruit taste

Like sweet ambrosia.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


What's Wasp (Janet Van Dyne version) up to these days? She dead? Back alive? Frozen in space? Has her soul become trapped in Thor's hammer?

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prefect
Sep 11, 2001

No one, Woodhouse.
No one.




Dead Man’s Band

Ultragonk posted:

What's Wasp (Janet Van Dyne version) up to these days? She dead? Back alive? Frozen in space? Has her soul become trapped in Thor's hammer?

She gave Jane Foster cancer. :tinfoil:

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