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zen death robot posted:The tweet of the Facebook post saying that the poll workers told that guy there was only one person registered in his "voting district" until they all got mad and oops they found a book with their names was complete bullshit, I'm sorry Given her history, I don't give her the benefit of doubt anymore.
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Clinton is more likely to be a two-term president that can get Congress to do poo poo whereas Sanders is more likely to be a Carter-esque lame duck although it would be great if he got to replace Scalia in the SCOTUS
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TyrantWD posted:https://twitter.com/Eddie_Dynamite/status/722537359074594817 glad to see the fix is in
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TyrantWD posted:https://twitter.com/Eddie_Dynamite/status/722537359074594817 hillary is going to pay for hijacking the exit polls with her money/sorcery
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Fojar38 posted:Clinton is more likely to be a two-term president that can get Congress to do poo poo whereas Sanders is more likely to be a Carter-esque lame duck although it would be great if he got to replace Scalia in the SCOTUS There is no real evidence to support this. Hillary has done jack crap in her time in office compared to Bernie "The Amendment King" Sanders who was given a sword named Excalibur by Ross Perot for his bi-partisan work on the veteran's bill.
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fuckin bubble tea mafia
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White vote was 71% in 2008 https://twitter.com/SteveKornacki/status/722539508424642560
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they'll both die of old age before the general
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Immortan posted:In some ways, but not for democracy and poor people. The best thing for democracy is anyone who will nominate judges that support democracy over poo poo like gerrymandering and voter ID poll taxes, which means any D over any R.
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Fidel Castronaut posted:That isn't how you said it. You said the fact that these things exist in other capitalist countries means they can't possibly combat capitalism, which is a dumb thing to have said. And none of that actually combats capitalism. It's like saying shoes combat capitalism.
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Reik posted:There is no real evidence to support this. Hillary has done jack crap in her time in office compared to Bernie "The Amendment King" Sanders who was given a sword named Excalibur by Ross Perot for his bi-partisan work on the veteran's bill. yeah man america was really helped by all those post offices he renamed!!
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my favorite thing about hillary is going to be when she loses the general election and i get deported because i turn more brown instead of orange when i tan
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zen death robot posted:I like capitalism actually please don't troll. mods?
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fishmech posted:And none of that actually combats capitalism. It's like saying shoes combat capitalism. That's not wrong though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8ssUHT5AqQ
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Reik posted:There is no real evidence to support this. Hillary has done jack crap in her time in office compared to Bernie "The Amendment King" Sanders who was given a sword named Excalibur by Ross Perot for his bi-partisan work on the veteran's bill. Hillary can actually work with Democrats should they retake control. A lot of Democrats will stand up to Sanders rather than put risk their seat to further his agenda.
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i also like capitalism, though its excesses should be kept in check by a strong social safety net
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Concerned Citizen posted:please don't troll. mods? 
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zen death robot posted:I like capitalism actually Boy do I have a book for you to read, it's by some dead bitch. He was an old man.
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TyrantWD posted:Hillary can actually work with Democrats should they retake control. A lot of Democrats will stand up to Sanders rather than put risk their seat to further his agenda. which won't really matter because a boring candidate like hillary won't get back house and senate (the seats that actually matter according to a lot of hillarfy supporters in this forum)
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fishmech posted:literally none of those things you noted him supporting combat capitalism or Capital. you know this is true, because you can find them in tons of capitalist countries! Within the specific context of 2016 America, many decades after there was any kind of viable labour movement or left-wing political formation at the national level, the mere fact that Sanders has demonstrated that you can run a national campaign based on small donations is significant. So's the fact that he's identified a large constituency of comparatively left leaning liberals within the Democratic party. If, years from now, historians look back and conclude that the Sanders campaign was significant, they'll likely be basing that on his ability to mobilize his supporters and grant greater visibility to certain issues rather than his milquetoast social democratic policy wishlist.
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zen death robot posted:I like capitalism actually Capitalism before 1980, right?
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Fojar38 posted:i also like capitalism, though its excesses should be kept in check by a strong social safety net  capitalism and socialism are like peanut butter and jelly 
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zen death robot posted:Do you even get mod buttons for me? all i get is the history button, no action or edit button
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TyrantWD posted:Hillary can actually work with Democrats should they retake control. A lot of Democrats will stand up to Sanders rather than put risk their seat to further his agenda. As soon as Sanders wins the nomination the entire Democratic establishment will fall in line and do everything they can to support their perfect candidate. "The next FDR" they'll all say. Thinking Hillary will "get more done" is a trap. People like to think they're making the "smart" decision so as soon as someone tells them voting for Hillary, despite their gut feeling that Bernie is the better leader, is the intelligent thing to do they jump on it. There is very little humans enjoy more than thinking they're smarter than other humans.
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I'm glad that California won't be fully blamed for ruining the chances of the one and final good candidate in any party for the foreseeable future.
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Electric Sugar posted:Joementum, thank you so much for this link. I've been attempting to explain (mostly to BernieBros who paid no attention in 2008) that primaries are party contests and their precious rights are not being trampled if they don't understand superdelegates or forget to change their party affiliation. This link will be very helpful. You're welcome. I'm always happy to help people understand their constitutional rights better. 
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fishmech posted:And none of that actually combats capitalism. It's like saying shoes combat capitalism. is anyone but you saying it does, though?
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Unfortunately, Sanders will lose the nomination because he was spectacularly bad at getting black people to like him.
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I'm capitalism! (tony curtis voice)
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Electric Sugar posted:Joementum, thank you so much for this link. I've been attempting to explain (mostly to BernieBros who paid no attention in 2008) that primaries are party contests and their precious rights are not being trampled if they don't understand superdelegates or forget to change their party affiliation. This link will be very helpful. I too believe superdelegates represent the interests of the American people.
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fishmech posted:And none of that actually combats capitalism. It's like saying shoes combat capitalism. Shoes aren't discourse. What does combat capitalism, fishy friend?
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Fidel Castronaut posted:What does combat capitalism, fishy friend? Rope.
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Fidel Castronaut posted:Shoes aren't discourse. Hillary Clinton? Is that the right answer?
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Reik posted:As soon as Sanders wins the nomination the entire Democratic establishment will fall in line and do everything they can to support their perfect candidate. "The next FDR" they'll all say. Laffo if someone actually thinks the next president isn't going to get absolutely railroaded just like Obama. All there really is to look forward to is the wailing and gnashing of teeth because X didn't become president.
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Immortan posted:I too believe superdelegates represent the interests of the American people. The basic principle is that primaries weren't designed as a lovely version of a runoff system but as a way for parties to choose who represents them. In a two-party system they kind of turn into the former but once they get used like that it's better to just do what California does and run primaries as an actual runoff system.
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Helsing posted:Within the specific context of 2016 America, many decades after there was any kind of viable labour movement or left-wing political formation at the national level, the mere fact that Sanders has demonstrated that you can run a national campaign based on small donations is significant. It's literally the same thing Obama did and boasted about 8 years ago, jesus. Only Obama had people that voted for him, too!
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Helsing posted:Within the specific context of 2016 America, many decades after there was any kind of viable labour movement or left-wing political formation at the national level, the mere fact that Sanders has demonstrated that you can run a national campaign based on small donations is significant. So's the fact that he's identified a large constituency of comparatively left leaning liberals within the Democratic party. uh, what he's proved is that running a campaign on small donations and no voters isn't a successful strategy dude, lmao meanwhile Hillary has way less donators and way more votes Fidel Castronaut posted:Shoes aren't discourse. for starters, actual revolution Firebert posted:It's literally the same thing Obama did and boasted about 8 years ago, jesus. wrong. obama won
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