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omg chael crash posted:I hate CGI vehicles. Pulls me right out of it And what's worse, it hardly looks any better than the CG Javelins from Justice League.
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For some reason, CGI vehicles always make me think of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx0aUUzaT2A
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Apr 7, 2016 01:44
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omg chael crash posted:I hate CGI vehicles. Pulls me right out of it Same thing with me. I remember Archer started doing CGI cars a couple seasons ago and I thought it really badly clashed with their animation style.
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Apr 7, 2016 16:11
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CGI vehicles looked okay on the Venture Bros. but they also had an episode with a Harryhausen-esque clay mation sequence so they can kinda do whatever they want.
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Apr 7, 2016 16:54
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SRM posted:CGI vehicles looked okay on the Venture Bros. but they also had an episode with a Harryhausen-esque clay mation sequence so they can kinda do whatever they want. In the commentary they said they were surprised when the animation came back from Korea with the CG monarch mobile because they hadn't asked for it or paid more for it
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Apr 7, 2016 20:43
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It worked OK in Futurama, I felt.
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Apr 8, 2016 01:09
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Dacap posted:Same thing with me. I remember Archer started doing CGI cars a couple seasons ago and I thought it really badly clashed with their animation style. Yeah, this is the example that usually comes to mind for me
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Apr 8, 2016 01:39
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Gaz-L posted:It worked OK in Futurama, I felt. That's because they bothered to match the black lines, cel shading and framerate to the regular animation (and later on I think Futurama became fully computer animated like The Simpsons, too) instead of just shoving assets from a PS1 cutscene in the middle of a cartoon willy-nilly.
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Apr 8, 2016 09:23
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The Killing Joke will be R-rated.
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Apr 15, 2016 17:16
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It's DTV, why is it rated anything at all?
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Apr 15, 2016 17:27
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Skwirl posted:It's DTV, why is it rated anything at all? Some places don't like to carry Unrated stuff, so getting something helps.
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Apr 15, 2016 17:43
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Aphrodite posted:Some places don't like to carry Unrated stuff, so getting something helps. Aren't most DTV cartoons unrated? Actually, thinking about it more it's probably a combination of trying to get some cheap publicity now and head off negative publicity down the line from parents buying it for their 6 year old because "it's a cartoon with Batman."
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Apr 15, 2016 19:42
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Skwirl posted:It's DTV, why is it rated anything at all? Publicity.
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Apr 16, 2016 07:05
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hup posted:Publicity. TOO HOT FOR TV!!!
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Apr 16, 2016 07:50
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Skwirl posted:and head off negative publicity down the line from parents buying it for their 6 year old because "it's a cartoon with Batman." I'd bet almost certainly this. After all those news stories about dumb parents taking their kids to see Deadpool then getting mad about all the stuff in it, DC probably wants to get ahead of the curve and say very clearly "Hey, do not let your children watch this movie, even if they really like Batman."
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Apr 16, 2016 08:30
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I was listening to a podcast and this guy was explaining his frustration in having to explain to his kids that they can't watch a Superman and Batman movie because it's completely inappropriate for them.
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Apr 16, 2016 08:50
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TwoPair posted:I'd bet almost certainly this. After all those news stories about dumb parents taking their kids to see Deadpool then getting mad about all the stuff in it, DC probably wants to get ahead of the curve and say very clearly "Hey, do not let your children watch this movie, even if they really like Batman." Deadpool made "this movie is rated R motherfuckers" part of its massive publicity campaign and parents still brought their kids to see it. Getting ahead of the curve won't accomplish anything as long as dumbasses can't be bothered to read single-letter warnings. Giving the movie an R rating just means WB can shrug and say "you were warned" when people inevitably start complaining.
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Apr 17, 2016 00:27
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Hopefully this is the right threadzoux posted:EMH was insane for the number of comics plots they adapted, like it sucks it was only two seasons but they covered a ton of ground. Assemble had the squadron supreme arc which was at least decently coherent, but I wouldn't say it's gotten to the point where the show is good. Maybe I just haven't noticed recently but I think they did finally get rid of that dumb loving black bar faux aspect ratio crap they were doing at the beginning.
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Apr 20, 2016 00:38
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They just had a story arc that redid the Thunderbolts plotline from the comics. One episode introduced the Thunderbolts, the next one immediately revealed them as the Masters of Evil. I mean I guess we can't all be the DCAU when it comes to playing the long game at continuity, but a two-episode turnaround from "who are these new heroes" to "oh they're those guys" is really kind of shameful. Especially when the reveal happens because the Avengers were 100% suspicious of the Thunderbolts the entire time, never trusted them, and discovered the truth after spying on them.
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Apr 20, 2016 00:45
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Don't forget that they fought the masters the episode before the thunderbolts show up and no one thought that a team with the exact same powerset popping up from nowhere trying to make the avengers look bad might be in any way connected.
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Apr 20, 2016 00:52
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Yeah. Like the Thunderbolts thing could have gone on for an entire season, having them pop in and out, doing stuff in the backgrounds, talking about it in other episodes while they do one shot stuff. To just kinda blow their wad over four or so episodes seems like a waste of a really fun idea. It seems like the writing team isn't planning for anything beyond what they're doing right at that moment. At least the first bit, mediocre as it was, had set up Hyperion and the Squadron. It just seemed like they were just grabbing for another Super Team to fill in a place holder slot, to wait for something bigger to happen. Beetle seems to be their crossover person, having bigger roles in AA and US, without just being in Clash of Champions? At least for more then one episode.
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Apr 20, 2016 01:23
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PicklePants posted:Yeah. Like the Thunderbolts thing could have gone on for an entire season, having them pop in and out, doing stuff in the backgrounds, talking about it in other episodes while they do one shot stuff. To just kinda blow their wad over four or so episodes seems like a waste of a really fun idea. Yeah one thing I'm digging in emh is how they're setting stuff up long term. The skrulls, dr doom, marvell, kang, etc.
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Apr 20, 2016 20:43
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site posted:Yeah one thing I'm digging in emh is how they're setting stuff up long term. The skrulls, dr doom, marvell, kang, etc. My favourite instance of that was them setting up Surtur in EXACTLY the way Walt Simonson did in the comic.
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Apr 20, 2016 22:42
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Remember when they insisted that Avengers Assemble wasn't a complete reset of EMH? That was funny. quote:“It will continue much of what the movie started, it’ll be slightly different from Earth’s Mightiest Heroes. It’s really going to focus on the core characters… but it is not some kind of drastic change from Earth’s Mightiest Heroes into Marvel’s Avengers Assemble. Everything that’s established in [Earth’s Mightiest Heroes] and just running from that point on. It’s like Bendis’ Avengers going into Marvel NOW! Avengers… Everything that happened in Earth’s Mightiest Heroes, we’re going to keep consistency from that, to the new show.” quote:Jeph Loeb spoke more about the new series adding that “it better reflects the cast that’s in the movie...but we’re not saying ‘Earth’s Mightiest Heroes’ never happened.” Continuing on that comment, he adds his thoughts about the ending to Earth's Mightiest Heroes. “We took this giant epic story, it has a conclusion we always meant to get to...and when we get out of that you’ll see what ‘Avengers Assemble’ will take it to" Loeb added. Just as good as when Avi Arad insisted that Amazing Spider-Man wasn't a reboot.
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Apr 20, 2016 23:03
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Why must all the good superhero cartoons die before their time?  I guess the DCAU had a good run, though, and the alternative would have been to see it New-52'd to gently caress, which would have been a far worse fate. But still, I miss Spectacular Spider-Man and EMH and Young Justice and Green Lantern.
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Apr 20, 2016 23:20
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I miss Brave and the Bold.
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Apr 20, 2016 23:22
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Gaz-L posted:My favourite instance of that was them setting up Surtur in EXACTLY the way Walt Simonson did in the comic. lol nice. I guess Yost had at least some idea as to what he was doing. ToastyPotato posted:Remember when they insisted that Avengers Assemble wasn't a complete reset of EMH? That was funny. I think the only thing similar between the two was the mansion but even that looked different and got blown up immediately, as if to say "this is totally different from emh guys!!!"
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Apr 20, 2016 23:29
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Within the first season, it is pretty clear that it is almost literally impossible for it to be a continuation of the previous show. AA was set in USM continuity, and EMH had already had their own version of Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Spider-Man (and even Ant-Man) that do not sync with anything in USM. Then again, the Guardians of the Galaxy seem wildly different from their first appearances in USM, so there is that. In any case, it was kind of insulting for them to even bother releasing such a statement. The only people for whom that kind of statement would have mattered, were going to be old enough to realize that they were lying completely just a couple of episodes in. Not really sure what was accomplished there.Fuego Fish posted:Why must all the good superhero cartoons die before their time? EMH really stings for me because it felt like the closest we ever came to a legit DCAU counterpart for Marvel.
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Fuego Fish posted:Why must all the good superhero cartoons die before their time? New 52 was like, 5 years after Justice League Unlimited finished. So even if it had gone on longer which would have been awesome, it never would have gone that far. Still got a decent send off as well.
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ToastyPotato posted:EMH really stings for me because it felt like the closest we ever came to a legit DCAU counterpart for Marvel. Which is never gonna happen now because they're going to keep putting out their terrible garbage shows forever, or at least until they stop selling toys and t-shirts. I still have no idea how Marvel can be owned by Disney yet the animation on every cartoon they have is just so loving bland and stilted. The photoshop filter backgrounds can eat a dick too. thebardyspoon posted:New 52 was like, 5 years after Justice League Unlimited finished. So even if it had gone on longer which would have been awesome, it never would have gone that far. Still got a decent send off as well. That is true, I guess I am just extremely distrustful of DC about that sort of thing. New 52 was a complete clusterfuck and stopped me from reading DC comics for years.
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Apr 21, 2016 01:28
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It's hilarious because they are a company built on and known for animation, who even had a currently running good series (Gravity Falls) going and they couldn't give the slightest bit of a poo poo when it came to their Marvel cartoons. Even better is that they developed and released Star Wars Rebels AFTER their wave of Marvel shows and that show is light years ahead of all of them as well. Not sure why the executives have such a blind spot for Marvel cartoons. It can't be a money thing, because if it were, then they'd put zero effort in to Rebels and there'd be like 2 additional Star Wars shows by now.
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Apr 21, 2016 03:05
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The cartoons are bad in order for the movies to be good. You can't have both.
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Apr 21, 2016 03:21
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Cardboard Box A posted:The cartoons are bad in order for the movies to be good. You can't have both. But we had Young Justice and Man of Steel at the same time
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Apr 21, 2016 03:42
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Ultimate Spider-man is decent now  bar a very flat reveal of Kaine's face. Animation isn't exactly top-notch on the show but it's never as power point-y as Avengers Assemble.
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ToastyPotato posted:Within the first season, it is pretty clear that it is almost literally impossible for it to be a continuation of the previous show. AA was set in USM continuity, and EMH had already had their own version of Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Spider-Man (and even Ant-Man) that do not sync with anything in USM. Then again, the Guardians of the Galaxy seem wildly different from their first appearances in USM, so there is that. In any case, it was kind of insulting for them to even bother releasing such a statement. The only people for whom that kind of statement would have mattered, were going to be old enough to realize that they were lying completely just a couple of episodes in. Not really sure what was accomplished there. Another great thing about emh: including a lot of other marvel characters, including ff, wolverine, and spidey, which considering they're all disconnected from the movie universes I didn't think I'd see. And its version of the guardians is different from the film/assemble team. And of course on the team there's Janet and tchalla, both of whom I like better than their replacements, widow and falcon. Once point against emh is that at least one person on production team apparently had a crush on widow and whenever she's in an episode there's at least one shot of her rear end and it's a kinda weird. Half a point for assemble is that the voice actors for widow and hawkeye were the va's for the female and male Boss in saints row 3 & 4 and hearing them talk to each other is kind of amusing. Fuego Fish posted:Which is never gonna happen now because they're going to keep putting out their terrible garbage shows forever, or at least until they stop selling toys and t-shirts. I still have no idea how Marvel can be owned by Disney yet the animation on every cartoon they have is just so loving bland and stilted. Yeah, I like the animation a lot more on emh. It feels a lot smoother. And the art itself is just a lot more vibrant and nice to look at. E: did Hank pym really become a mega douche rear end in a top hat in the comics like he does in emh? site fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Apr 21, 2016 |
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Apr 21, 2016 04:15
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There's always a shot of Widow's rear end in the MCU too, brand synergy.
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Ahahhahahahahaha.. Oh god. He's more of an douche in the comics. I think everyone agreed that the cartoon Pym wasn't even nearly as terrible as comic Pym. Every attempt they make to, "Fix" him usually just falls flat. The Ant Man movie has the best version of him. He's an rear end, but at least it's kind of understandable. They all at least shared the blame for Ultron in the cartoon. He also didn't didn't commit any domestic violence.
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Apr 21, 2016 08:33
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Pym in EMH is a pretty well done character. You don't often get someone who is sort of a pacifist and just doesn't want to go around hurting people all the time, even if they're villains, in a superhero punchmans show. He's a good contrast to Wasp who is a giddy psychopath with an infectious enthusiasm for hurting badguys.i like tacos posted:But we had Young Justice and Man of Steel at the same time
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Apr 21, 2016 09:19
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But in that case we had a not so great movie, and a pretty ok show.
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Cardboard Box A posted:Pym in EMH is a pretty well done character. You don't often get someone who is sort of a pacifist and just doesn't want to go around hurting people all the time, even if they're villains, in a superhero punchmans show. He's a good contrast to Wasp who is a giddy psychopath with an infectious enthusiasm for hurting badguys. I meant the part where he ups and quits, breaks up with Janet without having the balls to actually break up with her, fakes his own death and becomes mega rear end in a top hat yellowjacket even though as yellowjacket he acts exactly like the thing he claimed to hate so much. PicklePants posted:They all at least shared the blame for Ultron in the cartoon. He also didn't didn't commit any domestic violence. Yeah tbh, I did kinda feel pretty bad for Hank at the end of that arc cuz everybody lets him take the blame for ultron even though he probably had the least amount of responsibility for it and that fact is never explored at all. site fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Apr 21, 2016 |
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