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Awww yeah Buffalo just flipped to Team Clinton. What the gently caress is wrong with Albany?
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Youth Decay posted:Warner has all the charisma of burnt toast Yeah, Warner would be hosed. Booker was known as quite the reformer though, I think? If anything, Newark was his success story, but maybe there's some detail I don't know.
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Probably Magic posted:Yeah, Warner would be hosed. Booker was known as quite the reformer though, I think? If anything, Newark was his success story, but maybe there's some detail I don't know. he keeps hitting on women on twitter
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Bernie's campaign seems an exercise in how much control white men have in the Democratic Party the answer is not much
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logikv9 posted:he keeps hitting on women on twitter didn't stop bill
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logikv9 posted:he keeps hitting on women on twitter He's definitely hit on friends of mine sooooo ain't gay.
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MC Nietzche posted:Awww yeah Buffalo just flipped to Team Clinton. What the gently caress is wrong with Albany? Seems to be pretty close all around Albany, actually.
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Apr 20, 2016 04:02
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quote:[–]BerningSanders2016 [score hidden] just now
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I loving love being right.
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Obdicut posted:That doesn't have anything to do with what I said, though. I'm saying that your logic doesn't make any sense because Hillary doesn't gain a drat thing from the action and instead would suffer horribly. she gets a lot more money for re-election and for the dems, who are deeply in debt right now. dems couldn't buy media mouthpieces or other nicities before citizens united, i'm sure they'll be champing at the bit to give that up as soon as they can quote:The leftwards movement on race, gender, immigration, and LBGT stuff doesn't matter to you, right? nah, that's nice (though i wouldn't call some of hillary's statements on immigration "leftward"). problem is, anything that's not a social issue she's poo poo on
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Of the primaries so far here is the electoral college vote breakdown between Sanders and Clinton between Democrat, Republican, and Swing States (taken from 270towin) Sanders Democratic EV: 49 Republican EV: 34 Swing State EV: 23 Clinton Democratic EV: 60 Republican EV: 124 Swing State EV: 87 Clinton has almost four times as many EV's in swing states than Sanders.  but democrats and independents love sanders more than hillary
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Youth Decay posted:Warner has all the charisma of burnt toast I really like Warner... I mean he's no Obama or Hillary but he'd run a strong campaign for President I think. Virginia adores him.
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Apr 20, 2016 04:04
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Schnorkles posted:I loving love being right. I'm too lazy to find it but I predicted 57-43 earlier today in this thread. Feels good man.
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Apr 20, 2016 04:04
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Probably Magic posted:It's irritating to see, because it smacks of nostalgia for the Clinton years, which increasingly blows off the drawbacks of his policies. It's really not about that, though. A lot of D politicians really like and respect Hillary for her time in the Senate, as Sec State, and campaigning for them. Her party support derives from her work for the party, not Bill's time leading it. Even Reid and Kennedy, who organized Obama's run against her in 2008, have come around some. People have this weird idea that no one likes Hillary. Lots of people like Hillary. Lots of people in the Democratic Party especially.
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Apr 20, 2016 04:05
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A Winner is Jew posted:Then once again you're a loving idiot that doesn't realize that presidents that don't try to accomplish literally every single one of their campaign promises are thought of as failures, and hmm yes, noted failure bill clinton for example
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if you think the first female president that has been running for 20+ years wants to go down in history as a failure.
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berserker posted:What is reactionary from Clinton vs the GOP candidates? I'm being serious here. I'm not talking about hypotheticals, either. What has she actually DONE that is reactionary? Pearling clutching over the size of the federal government in a debate was pretty reactionary tqbh. Clinton is also a bigger fan of Israel than Sanders. That one really surprised me, because she's not even Jewish by any means.
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Apr 20, 2016 04:06
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Remember when we all predicted the Iowa results? Seems like years ago...
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axeil posted:prominent dems who sat out who probably would have run without hillary: Biden's son died, Warren is too green and loving hates politics (loves the job, hates running), Feingold would probably stick with the senate seat he's running for, and Booker is waiting a little longer because he's still a bit green as well (and if you don't like Hillary Clinton you'd loving hate Corey Booker; I'm not a huge fan of him and I'm perfectly happy voting Clinton in November, even as a Sanders supporter) Corey Booker is such a great idea on paper, but there is a man who worked with Chris Christie to overhaul Newark's school system with Charters and Zuckerberg money. Even compared to Hillary and Obama, he is willing, able, and open to taking money from wall street, and I firmly believe that if he ever reaches the national stage there will be at least one October Surprise-level bomb waiting to run him down. Booker is like taking the least electable parts of the democratic party and wrapping them up in a charming man. (FWIW: I just read The Prize and am willing to toss Booker into the Atlantic after all that bullshit.)
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Keep going, this is making my night, goddamn
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MC Nietzche posted:I'm too lazy to find it but I predicted 57-43 earlier today in this thread. Feels good man. Pollyanna posted:most likely? 57-43 clinton. oh my loving god 
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Probably Magic posted:Yeah, Warner would be hosed. Booker was known as quite the reformer though, I think? If anything, Newark was his success story, but maybe there's some detail I don't know. Opponents could easily point to the continued high violent crime rate and lovely schools. Moreover Booker is solidly in the Clinton wing of the party and is further right economically than she is.
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Kalman posted:It's really not about that, though. A lot of D politicians really like and respect Hillary for her time in the Senate, as Sec State, and campaigning for them. Her party support derives from her work for the party, not Bill's time leading it. Even Reid and Kennedy, who organized Obama's run against her in 2008, have come around some. She seems like a perfect alright person whenever she's not campaigning, at which point she turns into someone else that I find really unpalatable. Her snap at that one foreign journalist trying to bring up Bill was great work.
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sarmhan posted:All you're doing is setting up yourself up as a lovely rear end in a top hat. because i'm not unwaveringly loyal to the democrats anymore? why am i a lovely rear end in a top hat for that? are all green/socialist/etc party voters lovely assholes too?
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Condiv posted:she gets a lot more money for re-election and for the dems, who are deeply in debt right now. dems couldn't buy media mouthpieces or other nicities before citizens united, i'm sure they'll be champing at the bit to give that up as soon as they can No, she'd be massively outspent by the GOP, as she will be this time, on Citizens United-related money. If you think she'd need to raise a ton of money in the primary as an incumbent, then jesus what is wrong with your brain. Not to mention that in this primary, the one she's winning, there has been SuperPAC spending as a small fraction of her overall spending--it's not why she's winning. Your incredibly dumb scenario has her winning the Democratic nomination through SuperPAC money after incredibly publicly betraying one of her core campaign promises. quote:nah, that's nice (though i wouldn't call some of hillary's statements on immigration "leftward"). problem is, anything that's not a social issue she's poo poo on I was just noting your petulant grumpiness about the dems moving to the right (which isn't really even true on economic stuff) just totally left out all social issues, as if they didn't matter in the least to you.
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Kalman posted:He's definitely hit on friends of mine sooooo ain't gay. If he's got a skeleton in his closet, it's not a rainbow, it's a pile of illegitimate children. edit: though honestly I could see Booker "coming out" in order to make that poo poo go away. I do not have a very high opinion of the man.
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Condiv posted:are all green/socialist/etc party voters lovely assholes too? greens are for supporting anti-vaxxers
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Yoshifan823 posted:Biden's son died, Warren is too green and loving hates politics (loves the job, hates running), Feingold would probably stick with the senate seat he's running for, and Booker is waiting a little longer because he's still a bit green as well (and if you don't like Hillary Clinton you'd loving hate Corey Booker; I'm not a huge fan of him and I'm perfectly happy voting Clinton in November, even as a Sanders supporter) Booker gives me serious Anthony Weiner vibes in that he seems amazing but then all the skeletons come spilling out of the closet and turns out he's a huge pervert. Basically I'm saying the October surprise if Booker ran for President would literally be pictures of his penis showing up on the Internet. Biden's son dying is enough of a wild-card that I'm not sure what he would've done had he already announced he was running, agree with you on Warren and Feingold though. I was just throwing out names that were at least somewhat plausible. I only threw in Wolfe because he's the only big-state governor who isn't boxed out by someone else or former failed presidential candidate Jerry "Moonbeam" Brown.
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I love Hillary, she's cool and good and will make for a great president
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computer parts posted:greens are for supporting anti-vaxxers Greens are just a lovely nonsense party.
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Yoshifan823 posted:If he's got a skeleton in his closet, it's not a rainbow, it's a pile of illegitimate children. Being a bi male would probably be more unacceptable to voters these days than being a gay male.
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triple sulk posted:I love Hillary, she's cool and good and will make for a great president Bernie also is a nice person who cares about people.
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computer parts posted:greens are for supporting anti-vaxxers 
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Will someone please appraise me of Dalael's autoban whenever it happens tia.
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About Half of the precincts in Westchester and Nassau county haven't reported in yet so there's likely to be more Hillary votes filing in if those follow the counties' proportions. Edit: now 3/4 in, not much changed.
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Probably Magic posted:Bernie also is a nice person who cares about people. As long as they vote for him, yes
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triple sulk posted:I love Hillary, she's cool and good and will make for a great president This guy gets it. I look forward to the warm embrace of our future Matriarch. 
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Probably Magic posted:Bernie also is a nice person who cares about people. He's really not a nice person. He cares about "the people" in the abstract but he doesn't give a poo poo about specific people and is frequently a dick to specific ones (especially if they're women.)
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Condiv posted:because i'm not unwaveringly loyal to the democrats anymore? why am i a lovely rear end in a top hat for that? are all green/socialist/etc party voters lovely assholes too? yes because you fundamentally don't understand how voting works in america. there's only ever 2 viable national parties, you pick the one you agree closest to otherwise your vote for the minor party helps the major party you disagree with most. it's simple game theory.
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triple sulk posted:As long as they vote for him, yes This is the part where I post all the times Clinton has snapped at young people who've criticized her, but gently caress it.
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Condiv posted:she gets a lot more money for re-election and for the dems, who are deeply in debt right now. dems couldn't buy media mouthpieces or other nicities before citizens united, i'm sure they'll be champing at the bit to give that up as soon as they can Democrats tend to be outspent at just about every level. Obama was outspent by Romney. Senate democrats are about to get massacred in November as far as spending goes, and Congress is under Republican control almost entirely because of billionaire Republicans funding their campaigns. Again, Jeb had raised more money when he dropped out weeks ago than Sanders has all year (and by extension Hillary). Hillary can raise a lot of money under Citizens United, but its always going to be less than a Republican opposition would raise, so why wouldn't she want to get rid of it? She would take down all of her hated Republican opposition in one swoop by appointing a judge to repeal CU.
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