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Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Gromit posted:

Isn't there an old boat sunk up the Thames somewhere that is chock-full of explosives but it's too expensive to clear?

Hell yes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Richard_Montgomery

For more fun:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_CHASE

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Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot
So does anyone remember that guy who showed us the ultra-dangerous coffee cup heater? Then the ultra-dangerous bath water heater?

Yeah...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASnLL6ebaco

dis astranagant
Dec 14, 2006

Three-Phase posted:

So does anyone remember that guy who showed us the ultra-dangerous coffee cup heater? Then the ultra-dangerous bath water heater?

Yeah...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASnLL6ebaco

Gotta love our good friend Hung Lo Charlie.

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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lmao

`Nemesis
Dec 30, 2000

railroad graffiti

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Holy poo poo guy, just cut the bloody wires :doh:

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

Three-Phase posted:

So does anyone remember that guy who showed us the ultra-dangerous coffee cup heater? Then the ultra-dangerous bath water heater?

Yeah...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASnLL6ebaco

Holy poo poo :psyduck:

Pretty Cool Name
Jan 8, 2010

wat


Tom Scott did a good video about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9u41aeItss

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!

don't try and help the management, they won't do the same to you!

report it as a work injury and you might even be covered for hospital fees (if you live a third world country/USA)

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Convince the right people that TERRISTS could detonate it.

mostlygray
Nov 1, 2012

BURY ME AS I LIVED, A FREE MAN ON THE CLUTCH

zedprime posted:

Dual drive controls are expensive.

I think its supposed to be the lesser evil. A trained driver is supposed to be able to see and operate just as well over his shoulder so it becomes an ergonomic concern. Ideally a forklift job is one where the majority of time is spent operating looking forward. Like all or most of the loads being easy pallet pick ups long distance in the forward direction because you can see over the load, and if its an obscuring load, its an exception. Or if regularly obscuring, more time is spent picking up and setting down than the transport in between.

If you're spending more time in the transport phase looking back, a towing system could be indicated to prevent neck and back strain.

But really, lol at the idea of a trained forklift driver and lol at them spending money on the extra hands to make towing expedient.

I used to be a warehouse manager, you drive backwards for visibility, but where you need accuracy is forward. Dual controls would be horrible. Honestly, it would slow you down. You never drive forward across the rows, but once the load is in the air you have good visibility forward.

It seems unpleasant to look over your shoulder but it isn't that bad. You kind of twist your hips and it's almost like how you would lay on a chaise lounge sideways. You always use plugging so you don't have to worry about brakes and you never wear your belt. I should qualify that OSHA requires that you wear your belt but it's ridiculous. You couldn't get a thing done. When you get certified, you have to pretend to do it the OSHA way. The thing is, you can't put your arm outside the side guards per the rules so you have to crane your neck. It sucks. OSHA actually makes it worse to operate a forklift when it comes to backing.

Jesus Christ
Jun 1, 2000

mods if you can make this my avatar I will gladly pay 10bux to the coffers

mostlygray posted:

it's almost like how you would lay on a chaise lounge sideways

lol

Surprise Giraffe
Apr 30, 2007
1 Lunar Road
Moon crater
The Moon

Gorilla Salad posted:

Holy poo poo guy, just cut the bloody wires :doh:

He's clearly forgotten the parachute and is intent on gliding the detached tail to safety like a boss. All symptomatic of high as gently caress

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

There's burritos inside the fuselage :yum:

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

SKIPPER, STOP! IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR YOU TO SAW THROUGH YOUR AEROPLANE!
IF I DON'T, RED BLIZZARD, I'LL DIE!

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Surprise Giraffe posted:

He's clearly forgotten the parachute and is intent on gliding the detached tail to safety like a boss. All symptomatic of high as gently caress

Empennage :eng101:

It's an awesome word and I recommend it to everyone. It's just so loving classy.

CovfefeCatCafe
Apr 11, 2006

A fresh attitude
brewed daily!

Three-Phase posted:

So does anyone remember that guy who showed us the ultra-dangerous coffee cup heater? Then the ultra-dangerous bath water heater?

Yeah...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASnLL6ebaco

He was questioning the use of two different metals for the electrodes, and I believe the reason for this is to create that oxidization effect you see in the two glasses of water. Basically, using the dissimilar metals on those poles, in any kind of un-pure water would cause rapid oxidization of the iron/steel based rod, which is why he mentioned distilled water. So, to make a glass appear clear, you either have to somehow disable one set of electrodes or use purified water. Though I could be wrong, it's been ages since I took materials class and why metals rust.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

YF19pilot posted:

He was questioning the use of two different metals for the electrodes, and I believe the reason for this is to create that oxidization effect you see in the two glasses of water. Basically, using the dissimilar metals on those poles, in any kind of un-pure water would cause rapid oxidization of the iron/steel based rod, which is why he mentioned distilled water. So, to make a glass appear clear, you either have to somehow disable one set of electrodes or use purified water. Though I could be wrong, it's been ages since I took materials class and why metals rust.

No you got it, its also the exact same reason why the navy's newest boat dissolves in water.

Nitrox
Jul 5, 2002

Raskolnikov38 posted:

No you got it, its also the exact same reason why the navy's newest boat dissolves in water.
Can you post a link? That sounds like some fine grade schadenfreude

Edmund Sparkler
Jul 4, 2003
For twelve years, you have been asking: Who is John Galt? This is John Galt speaking. I am the man who loves his life. I am the man who does not sacrifice his love or his values. I am the man who has deprived you of victims and thus has destroyed your world, and if you wish to know why you are peris

Hot Karl Marx posted:

don't try and help the management, they won't do the same to you!

report it as a work injury and you might even be covered for hospital fees (if you live a third world country/USA)

Yeah but then they drug test you and you get fired because you smoked weed a week ago.


Riding sidesaddle. Shameful.

Edmund Sparkler fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Apr 20, 2016

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Raskolnikov38 posted:

No you got it, its also the exact same reason why the navy's newest boat dissolves in water.

I thought we figured this out in the eighteenth century.

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

Nitrox posted:

Can you post a link? That sounds like some fine grade schadenfreude

http://www.wired.com/2011/06/shipbuilder-blames-navy-as-brand-new-warship-disintegrates/

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Platystemon posted:

Convince the right people that TERRISTS could detonate it.

There was a big flap about that in the 90s (and someone actually wrote a pretty corny Clancy-esque book about them doing exactly that in the 70s) and the general consensus is that while that may happen, salvage works almost certainly *will* cause a detonation because of the level of decay of the hull. They keep a close eye on the state of the remaining detonators in there (the big thing they were worried about was the possibility of the salt water causing some of them to spontaneously go off) and once they're happy all of them have safely rotted away you'd need a pretty huge amount of explosives to set it off and at that point why not just use them somewhere more likely to cause a problem?

All that would happen if it went off is it would cause several thousand pounds worth of improvements to Sheerness.

My Q-Face
Jul 8, 2002

A dumb racist who need to kill themselves

genesplicer posted:

they continued to let us run around back there, even with stuff like that lying just under the surface.

When I was stationed in Korea, we went to one campsite on the DMZ where we set up our tents and they told us not to use tent stakes because it was an old minefield. Later that year, while in the field, a couple of soldiers went into the woods to dig a latrine and found one the hard way.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
I didn't know landmines were sensitive to a poo poo being dropped on one. That really is a war crime!

dreadspork
Jun 25, 2005

Perseverance does not equal worthiness. Next time you want to get my attention, wear something fun. Low-riding jeans are hot.

That was amazing, thank you so, so much.

Fasdar
Sep 1, 2001

Everybody loves dancing!
Here's a thought experiment for this thread:

Say the global population were to suddenly disappear - be it the rapture, neutron bombing, rapid onset plague, whatever. What types of infrastructure and facilities would become the trap filled dungeons of this post-apocalyptic world? That is, what types of facilities can you not walk away from without them becoming ever more dangerous over time?

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
Nuclear plants would top the list, I suppose. Chemical plants as well, probably.

Uncle Enzo
Apr 28, 2008

I always wanted to be a Wizard

Fasdar posted:

Here's a thought experiment for this thread:

Say the global population were to suddenly disappear - be it the rapture, neutron bombing, rapid onset plague, whatever. What types of infrastructure and facilities would become the trap filled dungeons of this post-apocalyptic world? That is, what types of facilities can you not walk away from without them becoming ever more dangerous over time?

Mining operations, without anyone monitoring the pit even a relatively safe aboveground mine will be a mess of landslides and mass wasting. Underground mines would fill with water, where they weren't huge drops into blackness.

The Wiggly Wizard
Aug 21, 2008


Fasdar posted:

Here's a thought experiment for this thread:

Say the global population were to suddenly disappear - be it the rapture, neutron bombing, rapid onset plague, whatever. What types of infrastructure and facilities would become the trap filled dungeons of this post-apocalyptic world? That is, what types of facilities can you not walk away from without them becoming ever more dangerous over time?

Maybe one of the nuclear powers has a failsafe thing where you have to keep pressing a button once a day or an armageddon device gets activated

The Wiggly Wizard
Aug 21, 2008


Fasdar posted:

Here's a thought experiment for this thread:

Say the global population were to suddenly disappear - be it the rapture, neutron bombing, rapid onset plague, whatever. What types of infrastructure and facilities would become the trap filled dungeons of this post-apocalyptic world? That is, what types of facilities can you not walk away from without them becoming ever more dangerous over time?

Someone eating a banana gets raptured but the banana does not so it becomes a slipping hazard

Fasdar
Sep 1, 2001

Everybody loves dancing!
My thought is: the entire gulf of Mexico.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36101112

quote:

The death toll in an explosion that struck a Mexican oil plant on Wednesday has reached 13 and could rise further.
The head of Mexico's emergency services, Luis Felipe Puente, said 10 bodies were found when his staff entered the site. Three workers had already been reported dead.
The blast hit a state facility in the southern city of Coatzacoalcos. The cause of the explosion is unclear.
More than 100 people were injured and thousands had to leave their homes.
Footage showed a large fire and huge plumes of smoke.
The facility is owned by Mexico's state oil company, Pemex. Several explosions have been reported at Pemex facilities in recent years.
Mr Puente tweeted on Thursday: "We have examined the affected area and can say that unfortunately so far there are 13 people dead."
The director of Pemex, Jose Gonzalez Anaya, said in a radio interview that of 136 injured people, 13 were in a critical condition while 48 had been discharged from hospital.
He said the explosion "was caused by a leak" but "we don't know how that leak occurred".
Mr Anaya said the death toll could still rise.
The incident occurred at around 15:15 local time (20:15 GMT) on Wednesday. Veracruz state Governor Javier Duarte told a radio station the blast was felt 10km (six miles) away.

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Mozi posted:

Nuclear plants would top the list, I suppose. Chemical plants as well, probably.

Pretty sure that most nuclear plants would eventually just go into automatic shutdown, so unless there was some sort of external catastrophe affecting them (like a giant earthquake and tidal wave for example), they would just become giant concrete structures enclosing the reactor vessels. Eventually stuff would decay to the point of radioactive hazard I'm sure, but it should be a really long time given the way they are constructed (speaking only in regards to US design/build plants, not sure about other places that use different types of reactors and construction).

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Mozi posted:

Nuclear plants would top the list, I suppose. Chemical plants as well, probably.

Most nuclear plants are pretty much self-running and fail safe by design. I suppose eventually things like coolant pipes will corrode away and you probably wouldn't want to be in the vicinity when that happens, although it would depend entirely on what the reactor was doing at the moment the humans got taken down to hell to be with our lord Satan.

Chemical plants same thing applies but probably more so - if they were in a stable state then they'd just sort of fizzle out, but the natural state of a chemical plant is rapidly-expanding cloud of debris supported by very nasty chemicals, and all chemical plant activity is an attempt to stop that happening.

After a few years I wouldn't want to be around any kind of earth dam, most of them need pretty much constant maintenance to stop them collapsing. Ditto tall buildings - it'll take a while for them to collapse altogether but poo poo will start falling off them after a few years, especially anywhere with high winds.

Fasdar posted:

My thought is: the entire gulf of Mexico.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-36101112

Petrochemical plants are just specialised chemical plants so same thing applies. Automated extaction and pumping probably means you wouldn't want to be near oil drilling equipment or pipelines either.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
Chemical plant activity is more about purposefully getting it into a dangerous state, if it was all crazy naturally there wouldn't be much useful work to do since nature could manage it. Everything would leak or freeze with little fanfare over probably half a century, leaving dangerous residue but hardly any dungeon trap gotchas. Dangerous in the days following apocalypse, but quickly self righting.

I'd watch out for waste disposal, but not just limited to nuclear, chemical, or heavy industry. Waste disposal is a situation where you are actively doing work to keep something in place so you could envision tracts of dead land surrounding even municipal garbage dumps who's active mitigation have become neglected.

Arms depots would be scary because aged explosives end up becoming shock sensitized and whatnot.

Plexiwatt
Sep 6, 2002

by exmarx
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/life-after-people/

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Any recently built glass curtain wall condo tower would have its windows falling out after a few years due to extremely lovely constructon and poor material choices. Hell this is happening anyways even with basic attempts at upkeep. Wandering around cities you'd be constantly hearing sheets of glass falling 20+ stories to the ground. The actual core concrete or steel structures would last a long time though.

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Most nuclear plants are pretty much self-running and fail safe by design.

A lot has to go wrong for really bad things to happen, but in the event of "everyone disappears" nuclear plants are going to be proper hosed pretty quickly.

Remember what killed Fukushima: Power failure due to the quake cut off electrical power to the plant, and they couldn't restore power in time to prevent a meltdown because the tsunami flooded the backup generators. Everyone disappears, that mean the electrical grid feeding the nuclear plants external power to keep its systems operating are going to stop doing that. Plant will SCRAM automatically, but the backup systems need to keep it cool while the decay heat drops below dangerous levels. Probably not going to work in all cases. And there's also the used-fuel storage. The dry cask stuff will be okay for a long time, but the stuff in the spent fuel pool? Water's going to stop being added to the pool to make up for that lost through evaporation (and again, eventually the cooling system will stop working and rate of evaporation will go up a lot) and eventually those pools are going to empty.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
The problem with “nuclear plants will shut down automatically” is that they need active cooling for weeks afterwards as the short‐lived isotopes in the fuel decay.

Normally this is no problem, they draw power from the grid, but the grid won’t stay stable for long in the absence of human intervention. Once the grid goes down, the back‐up generators kick on, but without humans keeping them supplied with fuel, they’ll fail, too.

e: f;b

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El Gar
Apr 12, 2007

Hey Trophy...

How long till all the hydroelectric dams break open?

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