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There would be a Guardian thinkpiece on how another leader would have gotten in with a higher vote share before Corbs even moved in to No.10 E: on this day in all years it is appropriate to smoke "dank kush". communism bitch fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Apr 20, 2016 |
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Zephro posted:So this would appear to mean that, for instance, before WhatsApp launched its new end-to-end encryption earlier this month it had to ask HMG whether they wanted it to secretly not actually be end-to-end at all or whether they wanted it backdoored, right? I assume Facebook is one of the 10 to 12... e: On reflection, it's probably safer to say "I don't know". goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Apr 20, 2016 |
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Apr 20, 2016 08:38
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Oberleutnant posted:This is bad for Corbyn. this is the worst meme this thread has had
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Apr 20, 2016 08:46
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Corbyn bad. Corbad.
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Apr 20, 2016 08:51
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More like geriatric poorbin
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(I'm trying to make a worse meme)
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Jose posted:this is the worst meme this thread has had It hasn't lost its charm for me.
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Apr 20, 2016 08:56
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To be fair it wasn't us that made it a meme. That was the press's doing.
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Apr 20, 2016 08:58
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I'm surprised that the papers don't seem to be up in arms about McDonnell calling for the overthrow of the government. Thought the Mail and Telegraph would have a field day with that.
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Jose posted:this is the worst meme this thread has had This thread has good memes?
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Pesmerga posted:"Corbyn is elected Prime Minster: this is bad for Corbyn" would be an entirely appropriate and accurate headline. It's also one that nobody will ever have the opportunity to use.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:e: On reflection, it's probably safer to say "I don't know". Edit: the more you think about this the messier it seems. Suppose $Company decides to rely on encrypted messages for sensitive information. It then turns out they aren't safe after all, after some random hacker stumbles across a back door mandated by HMG. What happens in court, particularly a non-British court? "A foreign government told us we had to gimp our encryption, m'lud, so this suit should be thrown out". Can't see many courts buying that as an excuse. If that seems far fetched we still don't know where the Juniper back doors came from either the first one or the later-modified version. " Zephro fucked around with this message at 09:23 on Apr 20, 2016 |
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Pissflaps posted:It's also one that nobody will ever have the opportunity to use. True. Prime Minister is not an elected position.
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Zephro posted:Well, it must have, or else it would be flagrantly ignoring a law that applies to it. Well it's not a legal requirement for products to have *working* encryption anywhere in the world that I'm aware of, so then it becomes a contract law issue. Given vendors are already covered for both incompetence and malice when failing to live up to their published claims about security, there's not any real difference if they do it as a matter of legal requirement. The Juniper back doors were specifically mentioned as being put in without Juniper noticing and were discovered and published by Juniper themselves so it seems unlikely in the extreme that they were put there as a result of collusion (legal or not) between Juniper and a government, but certainly not impossible they were injected by a state actor, so they're a bit off-topic for this discussion. To get back to the original point, I don't know if WhatsApp/Facebook have a RIPA s.12 notice served on them - my pre-edit answer was "No they don't because RIPA only applies in the UK" but I forgot that they added an extraterritoriality clause to it in DRIPA. To my knowledge this has not been applied as yet, because it's on very shaky ground legally and it's extremely unlikely that a US company would meekly accept it, but it's not impossible that they might have done so. Therefore it's not kosher for me to say definitely one way or the other if they have a notice on them and so whether or not they'd have had to discuss their encryption with HMG.
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"Of course Jeremy Corbyn's not anti-fast food - he went to the British Kebab Awards" http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2016/04/course-jeremy-corbyns-not-anti-fast-food-he-went-british-kebab-awards The headline is the only part of the article worth reading.
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Zephro posted:Edit: the more you think about this the messier it seems.
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DesperateDan posted:Someone who puts milk in before the hot water. I know this is a couple pages back, but this has brought up a concerning issue for me. What is the optimal way to make coffee/tea? Green tea I put a bit of cold water in with the teabags then fill the rest with boiling, normal tea I flip flop, but my racist UKIP council running nazi mate who wanted to castrate and sterilize all black people told me that it's best to put the milk in first. Coffee I just put the milk in last because otherwise I risk overflowing with the machine.
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Megaspel posted:normal tea I flip flop, but my racist UKIP council running nazi mate who wanted to castrate and sterilize all black people told me that it's best to put the milk in first. Milk always goes in after tea if you're making it in the cup. If you're making it in a pot/urn/boiler then it doesn't really matter.
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Megaspel posted:I know this is a couple pages back, but this has brought up a concerning issue for me. What is the optimal way to make coffee/tea? Green tea I put a bit of cold water in with the teabags then fill the rest with boiling, normal tea I flip flop, but my racist UKIP council running nazi mate who wanted to castrate and sterilize all black people told me that it's best to put the milk in first. Coffee I just put the milk in last because otherwise I risk overflowing with the machine. He's wrong. You don't infuse tea leaves with cold milk Teabag -> Hot water -> Milk
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If you're pouring the tea from a fancy teapot then it's OK to put milk in first. The idea is that if you're using china cups the cold milk cools the tea and prevents the cups from cracking because of the sudden temperature differential. I guess you could gently prewarm the cups to prevent that too. Otherwise hot water on the teabag, then milk. The worst people imo are people who don't take out the teabag before adding milk.
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Guavanaut posted:He's even scared of black tea.  big scary monsters posted:If you're pouring the tea from a fancy teapot then it's OK to put milk in first. The idea is that if you're using china cups the cold milk cools the tea and prevents the cups from cracking because of the sudden temperature differential. I guess you could gently prewarm the cups to prevent that too. Otherwise hot water on the teabag, then milk. I often drink tea with the teabag still in.
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No, the worst people are people who have really weak tea.
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Yeah the problem with putting the milk in first is the milk starts getting infused with tea and goes bitter. Removing teabag before milk is the only acceptable way.
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Megaspel posted:I often drink tea with the teabag still in. Why don't you just eat the teabag it would probably taste the same.
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Megaspel posted:I often drink tea with the teabag still in. History's greatest monster has come to the thread!
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Megaspel posted:I often drink tea with the teabag still in. 
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it's good for herbal teas because you keep getting more flavour.
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Just put the milk in the kettle loving tea drinkers, christ
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Oberleutnant posted:it's good for herbal teas because you keep getting more flavour. Herbal yes, Green tea passable Normal tea? b u r n t h e b l a s p h e m e r
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Just put the milk in the kettle Corbyn has no choice but to resign over this.
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Teabag, milk, hot water, sugar (!), drink. Leave the teabag in. I'm so, so sorry.
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Apr 20, 2016 12:12
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The worst are people who put milk in earl grey that's just wrong.
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StoneOfShame posted:The worst are people who put milk in earl grey that's just wrong. I will show myself to the guillotine.
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StoneOfShame posted:The worst are people who put milk in earl grey that's just wrong.  though I do like sugar in it.
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tentish klown posted:Teabag, milk, hot water, sugar (!), drink. Leave the teabag in. Have you considered hiring a butler to do these things for you?
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Of all places, I'd have thought this thread would be against Proper Tea
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Looks like the Graun is going to lay off Corbyn a bit. :Oquote:Snap PMQs Verdict: A solid win for Corbyn. Cameron managed to get his usual comic broadside into his final answer (although did you notice how he did not do his usual schtick about the importance of a strong economy - the unemployment figures killed off that today), but Corbyn got the better off him with the sheer weight of evidence he was able to cite about the extent of opposition to the plan to turn all schools into academies. It seemed as if the quotes would never stop. If Labour’s research team did a good job, Cameron’s did too, because he had a sound response to Corbyn’s fifth question, about the school visit. But Corbyn’s quotes were better, and Corbyn successfully questioned both the need for more academies (claims that academisation raises quality is questionable) and how this can be seen as decentralisation. Hope it lasts longer than just until the EU ref though!
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What are you weirdos putting milk in tea for? Milk is stolen from exploited worker cows you monsters.
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