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Uncle Boogeyman posted:In that case, maybe someone should've meddled with it, because it doesn't feel very well-integrated into the film. Really? They need a piece of tech and its obviously Stark Tech. They did not realize were it was being held was now Avengers headquarters. It fits in with the movie, and goes with Hank not trust Stark.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:In that case, maybe someone should've meddled with it, because it doesn't feel very well-integrated into the film. Maybe you are just wrong.
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site posted:Whichever one maintains your narrative. I mean even if that scene wasn't a direct result of studio interference, they say right in that quote that it was a result of rewrites, which were a result of the original writer/director leaving the project, which was a result of studio interference. it's just a clumsy scene. not all shared universe stuff is bad. Winter Soldier managed to work in a character that you would not know just from the Captain America movies in such a way that it not only didn't clash but actively enhanced the movie. but yeah my narrative is dope and correct
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Rewrites bad. First drafts for everything.
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Superstring posted:Rewrites bad. First drafts for everything. this is like a new level of failing to understand context, I'm actually kinda impressed.
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The question came from this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NpVwN7yq8Y Honestly, this is the first time I had heard anyone complaining about the scene because it was fun action scene and, as was said, sets up the end of the movie. There's a bunch of other stuff in there that's also really nitpicky, like the blanket "tacked on romances" line. The only tacked on romance in any of the films is Hulk and Widow. Though I still get pissed off when someone goes "we lost a genius film that Edgar Wrights was making!" because it's all out there and his Ant-man seems to lack any of the stuff that people really liked. What was the biggest complaint I saw about the movie? We never got to see Hope as the Wasp, guess who was barely in Wright version? Hope Van Dyne.
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Is Wright's version out there?
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That scene would still work even if you had no idea who Falcon was. It's a heist film, he's just the heavy for that particular scene.
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Yeah, the Falcon fight was fun and fit the film. They had to steal something from an old Stark warehouse, but whoops, they just turned that into the New Avengers facility. So he runs into an Avenger and shows off how much he actually learned in regards to fighting and using the suit. It also shows why later, Scott can go toe-to-toe with Yellowjacket, which is a much more advanced suit that's designed for fighting.
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Plus its the reason why he gets roped into Civil War
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The other thread fell pretty hard into the "2smart4u" with SMG and a few others throwing a whiny fit if someone doesn't like something. Kinda like you're doing right now. Literally never once have I just made poo poo up about BvS. I don't see how I could.
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The other thread kept calling you on making poo poo up and being willfully ignorant, glad you found a friendly trough to slop in.
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glitchwraith posted:Honestly, It'd be a vast improvement if Superman spoke more in general in the movie, or at least with more agency. I know he must have had more lines in the movie beyond bemoaning how misunderstood he was, but all that sticks in my memory are people monologueing at or near him while he responds with variations on frowns and deific aloofness. The movie isn't subtle about his motivations, and being familiar with the character I know what Goyer and Snyder where going for, but if this where a brand new character I'd be spending the whole movie asking why I should care about this pouty, spandex god. It's apparent from online reviews that you are probably right, Supes should have actually explained himself beyond "no one gets me", but I found his inability to explain himself an interesting topic for the movie. The people monologueing near, at, or about him, is part of the point. The film is largely concerned with how people interpret Superman, not how he views himself. The one scene we do get where he attempts to reach out and explain himself is taken from him, and either through his naivety, shame, or some sense of trust in the public he is unable to stop a tragedy which turns public trust further away from him. We know he's a hero who wants to save people, but the people of Earth in the movie don't know that (beyond the Zod fight) and it's a divisive topic for society. Sidenote, if you're interested in BvS enough, some of the deleted scenes for BvS that expected to be in the Director's cut are Clark scenes which could "fix" some of those complaints. Not sure if that's confirmed or just rumors though, tbh. CelticPredator posted:Is Wright's version out there? I'd really love to read his version too.
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MacheteZombie posted:It's apparent from online reviews that you are probably right, Supes should have actually explained himself beyond "no one gets me", but I found his inability to explain himself an interesting topic for the movie. The people monologueing near, at, or about him, is part of the point. The film is largely concerned with how people interpret Superman, not how he views himself. The one scene we do get where he attempts to reach out and explain himself is taken from him, and either through his naivety, shame, or some sense of trust in the public he is unable to stop a tragedy which turns public trust further away from him. We know he's a hero who wants to save people, but the people of Earth in the movie don't know that (beyond the Zod fight) and it's a divisive topic for society. Do not forget the scene where he gets advice from his father which boiled down to if you try to be a hero you will destroy your neighbors farm, so you should not bother having any hero cake.
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Supposedly the big difference of opinion with Wright was about him wanting Lang to be more of an actual criminal and Marvel didn't want that at the time. The funny thing is that during the pickups after filming they actually added more criminal stuff to the story.
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Yeah but it's okay because I'm a millennial in their target demo who hates wall street people.
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Jonathan Kent: It's somethin', innit? One minute in Kansas livin' on a pancake so we come to the mountains. All downhill from here; down to the floodplain, arm at the bottom of the world. I remember one season the water came bad. I couldn't've been twelve. Dad had out the shovels and we went at it all night. We worked 'til I think I fainted, but we managed to stop the water. We saved the farm. Your grandma baked me a cake, said I was a hero. Later that day we found out we blocked the water alright - we sent it upstream. A whole Lange farm washed away. While I ate my hero cake, their horses were drowning. I used to hear them wailing in my sleep. Clark Kent: Did the nightmares ever stop? Jonathan Kent: Yeah. When I met your mother. She gave me faith that there's good in this world. She was my world. I miss you, Son. Clark Kent: I miss you too, Dad.
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Ant-Man was a bit of fun. I didn't really expect to think much of it but I ended up enjoying it more than Avengers 2.
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I don't know when they'll upload the clip, but Double Toasted had C. Robert Cargil (Carlye, a regular on their Spill.com days) come on a do an interview about working on Marvel (he's writing Doctor Strange) and it's good. https://soundcloud.com/kcoolman/the-sunday-service-4-17-16#t=1:38:35 Carlye was one of my favorites and I'm super happy for him. His book loving owns.
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site posted:tbh I expected ant man to be total crap but after everyone saw it and said it was actually good, I checked it out and enjoyed it a lot. Yeah same. I liked the cute ants and was sad when one died 
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Yeah same. I liked the cute ants and was sad when one died That was a bummer.
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This was the best scene in Antman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9fqZlo60_8
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The death of an ant elicited more emotion from me than the death of Superman.
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TFRazorsaw posted:The death of an ant elicited more emotion from me than the death of Superman. That ant ain't coming back in the sequel.
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site posted:Antony was taken from us too soon "If you seek his monument, look around you"
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:Yeah same. I liked the cute ants and was sad when one died It really drives home the film-length homage to Honey I Shrunk The Kids
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MacheteZombie posted:"If you seek his monument, look around you"
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Ant-Man was just generic to me. I roll my eyes most times at the "Marvel formula" digs, but Ant-Man simply felt like formula all the way through, and not even always in ways that actually benefit the film.MacheteZombie posted:"If you seek his monument, look around you"
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BrianWilly posted:Ant-Man was just generic to me. I roll my eyes most times at the "Marvel formula" digs, but Ant-Man simply felt like formula all the way through, and not even always in ways that actually benefit the film. I liked Ant-Man because it felt like the formula came together for once to create a completely adequate movie from beginning to end. Paul Rudd is also my waifu.
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MacheteZombie posted:Jonathan Kent: It's somethin', innit? One minute in Kansas livin' on a pancake so we come to the mountains. All downhill from here; down to the floodplain, arm at the bottom of the world. I remember one season the water came bad. I couldn't've been twelve. Dad had out the shovels and we went at it all night. We worked 'til I think I fainted, but we managed to stop the water. We saved the farm. Your grandma baked me a cake, said I was a hero. Later that day we found out we blocked the water alright - we sent it upstream. A whole Lange farm washed away. While I ate my hero cake, their horses were drowning. I used to hear them wailing in my sleep. masterful visual storytelling.
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twistedmentat posted:It's stupid, I actually enjoyed the film, enough I'll buy it when it comes out on bluray. It feels like something I can pop in once and a while and watch while i'm playing Marvel heroes or Fallout or something. Why did I like it? It's like Revenge of the Sith, there's a lot of poo poo in there, but there's some stuff i legitimately enjoy. One of the major characters is actively terrible while others are just there, but others are actually trying to make bad material work. Plus there are certain things that when I see them, i turn into a kid who just loves this poo poo uncritically because I'm a kid, whether those are lightsabers and X-wings, or Superman flying or Batman grappling. poo poo, for that matter, I'd way rather see BvS again than Revenge of the Sith anytime soon.
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BrianWilly posted:Ant-Man was just generic to me. I roll my eyes most times at the "Marvel formula" digs, but Ant-Man simply felt like formula all the way through, and not even always in ways that actually benefit the film. I guess it was formulaic, but every single member of the cast managed to elevate it to be far greater than the sum of it's parts
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Travis343 posted:That ant ain't coming back in the sequel. It should come back, with little robot ant wings. VVVV: Quicksilver will show back up from the dead with Antony on his shoulder Light Gun Man fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Apr 20, 2016 |
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Everyone knows they just "killed" Antony so they can bring him back for Infinity War.
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AngryBooch posted:masterful visual storytelling. Agreed 
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