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women in motorsport is like a chicken and egg situation where people pretend eggs don't exist
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quote:Ferrari president Sergio Marchionne has urged Formula 1 chiefs to change the championship's approach to digital platforms in order to help attract younger audiences. Boy Sergio really has his finger on the pulse of the youth
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Apr 20, 2016 20:08
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But Arrivabene does have a lot of experience in getting kids hooked on a bad product.
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Apr 20, 2016 20:11
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It's an issue with sponsors and young driver programs not supporting women at a karting level at the age of 12 or so when it becomes important, so they end up giving up or switching to sports like motocross which are far more likely to give them sponsorship deals. F1 can only recruit from lower formulas and if women are locked out of them financially then it's not F1's fault. A big issue for me is that if it's well known that women can't get motorsport sponsorship deals then why are huge brands selling women's products who claim to be all about feminism and addressing the gap and so on not helping them either? To give an example of just how much money there is in the cosmetics and fragrance industry, Elizabeth Arden make five billion pounds a year in profit off of Britney Spears perfumes alone. Take a small fraction of just that money and there's your young women's driver program right there, and Elizabeth Arden get to be known as the people who brought women into Formula 1.
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Apr 20, 2016 20:15
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don't forget rich parents not wanting their little princesses to be in any sort of danger
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Apr 20, 2016 20:18
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gret posted:You can't really just take somebody's finishing position in the championship at face value when they only did like 2 races the whole season. Fair enough, let's take a look at Beitske's entire racing history:  Her best is 8th. Let's get something straight here, I'm not saying that women can't/will never be good enough to race in F1, all I'm saying is that none of the current hopeful's look fast enough right now. Having said that, I think if Alice Powell can get her sponsorship troubles sorted out I bet she would tear up GP3 or GP2. Beitske Visser is currently in the Red Bull driver program, so we'll see how that pans out for her. MustardFacial fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Apr 20, 2016 |
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Apr 20, 2016 20:19
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I was taking issue with you citing Alice Powell's 31st place in the 2013 GP3 series when she only drove 2 races. And everyone knows the new hotness is Sophia Floersch.
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Apr 20, 2016 20:21
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I'm pretty sure Drag racing has had some monstrous females in or in it. To lazy to research right now.
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Apr 20, 2016 20:26
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be nice wicka posted:women in motorsport is like a chicken and egg situation where people pretend eggs don't exist Indeed. People like to forget you have to use the eggs before they are old and useless. That way lies a collection of cats.
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Apr 20, 2016 20:30
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Norns posted:I'm pretty sure Drag racing has had some monstrous females in or in it. To lazy to research right now. john force's kids, mainly. really goes to show how important it is to get in the sport early, with the appropriate support.
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Apr 20, 2016 20:46
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be nice wicka posted:john force's kids, mainly. really goes to show how important it is to get in the sport early, with the appropriate support. With good equipment.
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Apr 20, 2016 20:52
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FYI is the equipment is second-rate in racing your career is basically hosed.
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Apr 20, 2016 20:52
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Second rate equipment is not an issue in spec series.
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Apr 20, 2016 20:56
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Even if the equipment is exactly the same your team of engineers, strategists and mechanics are the ones that make a difference.
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Apr 20, 2016 20:58
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JFairfax posted:I'd like to take Claire Williams seriously. I like you today
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Apr 20, 2016 20:58
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gret posted:I was taking issue with you citing Alice Powell's 31st place in the 2013 GP3 series when she only drove 2 races. Sophia's our best bet right now. But while I can't speak for Beitske, I know for a fact Alice has inspired young women to at least get into national karting championships. And given that anyone worth listening to really just thinks it's a numbers game then that's good enough.
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Apr 20, 2016 21:22
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El Hefe posted:Even if the equipment is exactly the same your team of engineers, strategists and mechanics are the ones that make a difference. People aren't equipment you utilitarian technocratic socialist robot!
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Apr 20, 2016 21:26
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https://twitter.com/F1/status/722781621749854208 HAW
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Apr 20, 2016 21:57
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Keke should stop eating so much shrimp
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Apr 20, 2016 22:04
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Not everything calls for a Carlsberg Keke.
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Apr 20, 2016 22:06
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Keke looks like a lovely Richard Branson
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Apr 20, 2016 22:11
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George Zimmer posted:Keke drives like a lovely Richard Branson
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Apr 20, 2016 22:12
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learnincurve posted:To give an example of just how much money there is in the cosmetics and fragrance industry, Elizabeth Arden make five billion pounds a year in profit off of Britney Spears perfumes alone.
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Apr 20, 2016 22:21
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Keke is actually one of my favorite drivers from the early 80s and I think he gets a poo poo rap because he only won one race for his championship. I'm willing to support Nico on the basis that it's a win for Keke.
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Apr 20, 2016 22:32
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You know how a rocket jettisons its first stage and the second stage flies into space? Yeah, it's like that.
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Apr 20, 2016 22:38
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I'm Crap posted:Er, that's clever given that Wiki thinks their total yearly turnover is £930 million, and total profit is £28.3 million. lol no. That may be what they say they pay tax on in the US, but the Wiki also says they are new York based when they are most certainly not. The factory and actual headquarters are in Cape town South Africa and they pay tax there. Coty sell the same amount of fragrances as EA and their US figures on wiki are dramatically different https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coty,_Inc.
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Apr 20, 2016 22:43
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Triple A posted:don't forget rich parents not wanting their little princesses to be in any sort of danger plenty of rich people get their girls horses and riding horses is far more dangerous than driving F1 cars, these days at least
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Apr 20, 2016 22:57
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JFairfax posted:plenty of rich people get their girls horses and riding horses is far more dangerous than driving F1 cars, these days at least Skiing is more dangerous than driving F1 cars, these days at least.
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Apr 20, 2016 22:58
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El Hefe posted:Skiing is more dangerous than driving F1 cars, these days at least. Good try but they both result in brain damage and death.
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Apr 20, 2016 23:01
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Xenoid posted:Good try but they both result in brain damage and death. Schumacher is alive and recovering and I'm sure will start appearing in public any day now, possibly as Mclaren's new reserve driver.
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Apr 20, 2016 23:04
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The McLaren is so bad even Schumi would be held back by it
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Apr 20, 2016 23:18
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nsaP posted:I googled looking for shirtless male drivers in their race suit with it half zipped down but wouldn't you know it, there wasn't one!!! You must be new to the google. http://famewatcher.com/shirtless-nascar-drivers-indycar-hunks-whos-the-hottest.html
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Apr 20, 2016 23:25
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That link contains no shirtless F1 drivers 
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Apr 20, 2016 23:28
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learnincurve posted:That link contains no shirtless F1 drivers Console yourself with are Max (left)... 
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Apr 21, 2016 00:00
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nsaP posted:I googled looking for shirtless male drivers in their race suit with it half zipped down but wouldn't you know it, there wasn't one!!! Expand your horizons 
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Apr 21, 2016 00:03
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Next race is Russia, which last year was the only race I missed but didnt everyone here say it was awesome?
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Apr 21, 2016 00:46
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It was, but compared to 2014 it was a fluke. Fingers crossed.
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Apr 21, 2016 01:05
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I have a bad feeling about Russia. You know that thing when you are really into a television show and the first few in the new series are the best thing ever, so you tell your friend to come watch it with you and that episode turns out to be rubbish, so you end up awkwardly sat there going "no no it's usually much better than this really!"
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Apr 21, 2016 07:39
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Someone just pissed off Sky/Channel 4/his own team boss. I'll give you three guesses but you will only need one: "I don't want to be a commentator or stay and be in the sport, it is just not for me, it has been my opinion for a long time. I feel like there is a lot of people who are still in the sport, they just can't let go, I'm like 'let go already'.
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learnincurve posted:Someone just pissed off Sky/Channel 4/his own team boss. I'll give you three guesses but you will only need one: "I don't want to be a commentator or stay and be in the sport, it is just not for me, it has been my opinion for a long time. I feel like there is a lot of people who are still in the sport, they just can't let go, I'm like 'let go already'. Button?
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