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Madkal posted:I would love nothing more than to discuss the inherent Jewishness (and Judaism) in Eisner's work (and I am being very sincere and not sarcastic here), and in some ways I would agree with you because a lot of his work, from stuff in Contract with God, Into the Storm, Name of the Game, deals more with being Jewish in a secular (particularly New York) world, and how it affects the characters in the choices they make with two opposite forces pulling them away from who they are. The one story, however, that stands out the most for a Judaism point of view is Contract with God which deals with a religious man's relationship with God that could also be a metaphorical claim of the Jewish people and God. Completely agree. It's about as "mediocre white man" as something like Ulysses or The Grapes of Wrath are. Yeah, they're about un- and underemployed failures, but there's a bit more than just that going on in them... It's not, like, John Updike or something.
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Toph Bei Fong posted:Patreon Haha, oh. He's just a webcomic guy. No wonder I've never heard of him.
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Ghostlight posted:I quite enjoyed it - it was pretty easy to listen to the whole thing in one sitting. A good mix of people who think comics are dumb but one of them knows a lot about them and can educate the rest on just how dumb they can be. Thanks! This was my first time editing audio in awhile (our other podcasts are edited by Cody, one of the other hosts) and there seems to be just no good Skype recorder for Windows. I'm going to try having us all record separately next time around. Also, yeah, that's kinda the feel we were going for since that's what the conversations that spawned the podcast were all about. Our next episode is getting recorded this week and it should be a lot shorter since decompressed storytelling is a thing. We're doing Civil War, because why shouldn't a podcast about comic book events have a movie tie-in episode? Do you guys have anything that you think needs to be discussed or questions about Civil War you think would make for good podcast fodder? Also, if I'm shilling too much about my own podcast it's only because I'm excited and can gladly stop anytime.
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Little Mac posted:Thanks! This was my first time editing audio in awhile (our other podcasts are edited by Cody, one of the other hosts) and there seems to be just no good Skype recorder for Windows. I'm going to try having us all record separately next time around. Also, yeah, that's kinda the feel we were going for since that's what the conversations that spawned the podcast were all about. I think you guys can make some hay out of the fact they hyped up how they 'had stories for years' about an unmasked Spider-Man, when they already had plans to undo it and the marriage in one fell swoop - I would not be surprised if the unmasking was editorially mandated to get Peter in a place to make that stupid deal.   And man, you guys were a bit too harsh on the Wasp, imo. Then again, you were working from Secret Wars. Also when are you guys getting on iTunes? I am lazy and dislike making effort to find podcasts. Actually, on a related note for the thread in general/mods: do you guys think a Comics Podcast thread would go here or in RGD?
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Yvonmukluk posted:I think you guys can make some hay out of the fact they hyped up how they 'had stories for years' about an unmasked Spider-Man, when they already had plans to undo it and the marriage in one fell swoop - I would not be surprised if the unmasking was editorially mandated to get Peter in a place to make that stupid deal. If we can have our own comic book movie and TV show thread in here I think we can have our own podcast thread.
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Yvonmukluk posted:I think you guys can make some hay out of the fact they hyped up how they 'had stories for years' about an unmasked Spider-Man, when they already had plans to undo it and the marriage in one fell swoop - I would not be surprised if the unmasking was editorially mandated to get Peter in a place to make that stupid deal. I definitely wanna talk about the unmasking and how it was handled afterward (mostly badly). I know Quesada hated the marriage for awhile, but I don't think they had plans to undo it at the time of Civil War, did they? I like the Wasp, but Secret Wars Wasp is baaaaaadddddd. We're on Stitcher! iTunes should be approving us shortly. <3
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Secret Wars Wasp is bad in the same way that Lady Stilt Man is stupid.
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Squizzle posted:I'd say Jewishness more than Judaism, but that's getting dreadfully close to a semantic argument. Yeah, you're right, I guess I just had A Contract With God on the brain. Lurdiak posted:*sigh* Thanks for getting this out of the way.
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Little Mac posted:I definitely wanna talk about the unmasking and how it was handled afterward (mostly badly). I know Quesada hated the marriage for awhile, but I don't think they had plans to undo it at the time of Civil War, did they? Please post a link when itunes approves
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Shelly Bond is out at Vertigo and no one's very happy about it.
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No one should be happy about no one giving a poo poo about their good comics this last year 
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Little Mac posted:I definitely wanna talk about the unmasking and how it was handled afterward (mostly badly). I know Quesada hated the marriage for awhile, but I don't think they had plans to undo it at the time of Civil War, did they? about OMD, so if anyone reading is not interested in that sort of thing feel free to skip it.I think Quesada stated that he came into EIC, he had a list of things he wanted to 'fix' - 1) The number of mutants, (resolved via House of M) 2) That all the heroes were apparently too friendly, (resolved via Civil War), and 3) Spider-Man's marriage. Besides, people at Marvel have hated the marriage for years - they tried getting rid of it back in the 90s by killing off MJ but backed down when the fans revolted. Look at it this way - after Matt Murdock, Peter Parker should be the poster boy for 'why letting your identity be discovered is a terrible idea'. His girlfriend? Murdered. His Aunt? Kidnapped and buried alive. His pregnant wife? Drugged into either early labour or outright miscarriage, with the baby never seen again. All of this, mind you, is the work of one guy who knows his identity. Even if he supports the idea of holding heroes accountable, he should have never publicly unmasked in a press conference - especially since nobody else had to do that. Of course, Aunt May getting shot also gave them an excuse to put Peter back in the Black Costume in time for the release of Spider-Man 3, too - but I'm absolutely certain they only put Peter into that whole situation so they had an excuse to use a magic retcon to undo it and the marriage in one fell swoop in the name of getting things back to 'normal' - like how John Byrne planned to use the Shaper of Worlds to undo the marriage in his run before deciding that was a dumb idea - just like the writers decided using Mpehisto to wrap the Clone Saga was dumb. The whole OMD retcon was editorially railroaded - to the point the writers of Sensational Spider-Man had two concurrent stories where Peter spoke to Aunt May via Seance and God Himself, and they both told him he had to let go and move on. I mean part of it was probably because they were getting booted in favour of the 'Brain Trust' - but it seems like a great deal of the guys actually writing the books were not fans of the retcon. I would not at all surprised if the unmasking was set up with OMD already on the drawing board. Also, it's worth noting that I don't think they ever established what exactly the registration act did - it wildly fluctuated on how strict it was depending on the whims of the writers - most of whom sided with Cap. Also, don't forget to mention how they managed to turn Tony Stark into such an rear end in a top hat they decided to mindwipe him and revert him back to pre-Civil War characterisation rather than address all the shady stuff he did. And don't forget Sally Floyd telling off Cap for standing up for Civil Liberties by reeling off a list of pop culture stuff (most of which is hilariously dated now - who even uses MySpace any more?) and calling Cap out of touch. And literally participating in a cover-up. I don't think anybody came out of Civil War looking good. Oh! Maybe mention Annihilation was going on in Cosmic Marvel at the same time, to put things in perspective.
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Punisher did well in Civil War. He got firmly shifted back outside the 'hero circle' while his actions and motivations within the event were consistent with his characterisation.
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Don't forget Pym, stark, and Reed straight murdering a long time (c-list) friend with seemingly no repercussions.
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Kyle Baker spoke at my college yesterday. It was sponsored by the AAAS (African and African American Studies) department, mainly to talk about Nat Turner. Most of the people there were AAAS majors or people from the nearby Cartoonist Institute asking about work. Kyle Baker was super honest and funny. One thing he was talking about were how most of his superhero comics were checks in the boxes, nothing he is passionate about and that's why they're here to talk about Nat Turner and not Deadpool. After the talk one dude super excited goes up to him and asks him to sign Deadpool super excitedly. Hilarious. Baker said he had never seen the collected version of Deadpool - Marvel and DC never send those to him. What was also crazy, he just self published even though he knew nothing about printing because he knew he could get someone to print for less than 80% of costs, and thus made way more money than his Big Two output with little knowledge.
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Archyduke posted:Thanks for getting this out of the way. It's what I'm here for. X-O posted:Haha, oh. He's just a webcomic guy. No wonder I've never heard of him. He's pretty big as far as those go. Not Homestuck or Penny Arcade level, but he's got sizeable income from his dumb boob comics. Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Apr 21, 2016 |
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RevKrule posted:Shelly Bond is out at Vertigo and no one's very happy about it. It's so weird to think that I was at a con recently and she was there and at the Vertigo panel she was talking about how excited she was about the books being currently published. And now she is gone. It reminds of me of when I was at ECCCC and Joshua Fialkov was at the DC panel talking about his upcoming Green Lantern Corp stint. I wonder what happened with Bond.
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So with Bond's ousting the "Eddie Berganza is a serial sexual harasser" story is now being openly discussed.
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Rhyno posted:So with Bond's ousting the "Eddie Berganza is a serial sexual harasser" story is now being openly discussed. Knowing how the internet has been lately, this'll probably lead to an increase in the sales of DC comics.
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Lurdiak posted:Knowing how the internet has been lately, this'll probably lead to an increase in the sales of DC comics. I wouldn't be that surprised. The story claims that he has blackmail dirt on someone higher up and that's what's prevented him from being ousted, I'm curious to see the DC house of cards fall apart if this blows up.
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Rhyno posted:So with Bond's ousting the "Eddie Berganza is a serial sexual harasser" story is now being openly discussed. What's this all about now?
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Madkal posted:What's this all about now? http://www.theouthousers.com/index....management.html He's basically DC's version of Scott Allie (Bitey the Clown).
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So any chance Bond goes to work on something at Image, because she totally should.
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Madkal posted:So any chance Bond goes to work on something at Image, because she totally should. She'll land on her feet. She's universally loved by the creators she's worked with and in this day that goes a long way.
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Gerard Way's been on the press tour telling everyone Young Animal is being edited by Bond, so I could believe Bleedingcool that it came down not getting anything nominated in the Eisner awards.
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Well this is good timing. Gerard Way posted:
Taken from the Gerard Way interview on Comic alliance that was posted today.
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He even mentioned her specifically in an interview on DC's own YouTube show a couple of days ago.
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Today I learned that Marvel has a character named Kim Il Sung. 
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Where's the Zenescope thread? Cause http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/04/21/zenescope-launches-evil-heroes-from-joe-brusha-and-eric-j/
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Teenage Fansub posted:Where's the Zenescope thread? Cause http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/04/21/zenescope-launches-evil-heroes-from-joe-brusha-and-eric-j/ That one picture of not-Superman could pass for an official piece of BvS art
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I feel this could be a good test of fair use before I launch my comic about an Alaskan with carbon fiber claws and bones who's also really healthy named Wolferine, who eventually joins the crossing-sign-men.
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Travis343 posted:That one picture of not-Superman could pass for an official piece of BvS art Forget that, the Wonder Woman is just... Wonder Woman with slightly different colors. There's not even a missing logo.
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Teenage Fansub posted:Where's the Zenescope thread? Hopefully never created.
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Forever Evil with David Finch and all was pretty Zenescopy already. It's fair they take it back.
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X-O posted:Hopefully never created. Oh it's on now.
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Eddie Berganza's trending on twitter right now.
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Lurdiak posted:Eddie Berganza's trending on twitter right now.
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Lurdiak posted:Eddie Berganza's trending on twitter right now. If Scott Allie didn't get fired I don't see how Eddie will.
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Happy Passover/Chag Sameach Jewish goons!
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Rhyno posted:If Scott Allie didn't get fired I don't see how Eddie will. Burn comics to the loving ground and start over with less assholes.
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