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Kanos posted:Magic is bad because it's a titanic stat investment for limited ammunition attacks that can't be animation cancelled and cost a billion stamina per cast while also demanding you give up all of your ring slots to actually deal good damage and have a decent cast speed and also demanding you give up a third of your estus slots. also the magic weapons mostly suck and you can't even get the moonlight greatsword until the final main area of the game, and the soul required to make it can also be made into a unique spell that you won't be able to get until ng+ when you kill the boss in the endgame again. it's ridiculous
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Any tips for the abyss watchers ? Im having a hell of a time even getting to the location with those two drat darkwraiths . Do those guys respawn after you kill them ?
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vandalism posted:Just ordered the PC DVD box of this game from a retailer called POSTED FROM U.K. on Amazon. Hope it isn't some weird region lock thing. I'm in North America, if that matters. Game looks fuckin sweet and I can't wait to play. I loved Dark Souls II so yeah I should love this too. Time to find my ps3 controller! Why did you order a physical copy of the game? It's going to require Steam no matter what. Do you have restrictive bandwidth caps?
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Apr 21, 2016 07:29
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Nuebot posted:I did all of it after killing Aldrich, at some point it becomes necessary I assume. He was loving me up in phase 2 because he moved so fast I couldn't cast poo poo at him. Also he'd 1-2 shot me. ....then I equipped a shield and instantly beat him. None of his attacks follow up in such a way to punish breaking your guard. So you block, swing, block, swing, recharge endurance when he leaps across the room. Changing your approach in DS3 has led to wild difficulty swings way more often than the other games for me.
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Apr 21, 2016 07:32
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Dark Magic Explained Dark Spells, Pyromancies, and Miracles only scale with Intelligence and Faith when using the specific dark item for that class. For Spells, that's the Izalith Staff For Miracles, that's Caitha's Chime & White Hair Talisman For Pyromancies, it's neither Here's a spread sheet with the damage laid out. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TbK4UVHz5A33CzpBkMs81o8OOB9aWqQU3UEWVRPkXeY/edit?usp=sharing In short Dark Rocks, if you want to go Dark, but pick a pyromancer if so, because you won't be getting much more after 30/30. And you won't even be doing that awesome damage until areas WAY later. Turtlicious fucked around with this message at 08:22 on Apr 21, 2016 |
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Apr 21, 2016 07:33
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Anti-Hero posted:Why did you order a physical copy of the game? It's going to require Steam no matter what. Do you have restrictive bandwidth caps? PC game discs don't even contain actual data on them anymore, do they?
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Apr 21, 2016 07:33
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So this NPC invader crystal-keeper whatever in Untended Graves do they drop anything good? Because I launched her the gently caress off a cliff entirely by accident.
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Apr 21, 2016 07:34
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Nuebot posted:So this NPC invader crystal-keeper whatever in Untended Graves do they drop anything good? Because I launched her the gently caress off a cliff entirely by accident. I'm pretty sure every NPC invader that drops something will have the item pop directly into your inventory now, just to prevent such a thing.
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Nuebot posted:So how about that Ocieros fight? Probably hardest for me so far since he was fast and my attacks are slow and he's probably the first thing I've fought in a while capable of breaking the super armor on my UGS charge attack. Also what the gently caress is up with that baby poo poo. Why was there a baby making noise when I'd smash him with a sword. I assume it's his baby because he's talking about it the whole fight. But where is it. I don't think I like the possible implications of that whole mess The baby is the third prince of Lothric, and was magically engineered by Ocieros to be as close to the dragons as possible. Oceiros had become obsessed with their dragonblood and creating a worthy heir of the throne. He found out about Seathe, become totally obsessed with him, and well that's why he ended up turning into that dragon monstrosity. He wants Ocelot to claim the throne with his super dragonblood when he grows older, but you put a stop to that. I don't think the baby is anywhere in the fight. Presumably Ocieros is carrying him, as they both die when the fight ends.
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Apr 21, 2016 07:36
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Nuebot posted:Wow at 50STR and 18DEX the Fume UGS and Black Knight UGS do the same damage. The Black Knight weapon, however, has a way better move set and is faster. Desire to BKUGS intensifying! The FUGS is horrible for PvP because of that slow predictable moveset, but pretty good for Sunbroing when there are other guys to distract while you charge R2 to stun some bitches. I've been toying with other STR weapons on that character.
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Manatee Cannon posted:also the magic weapons mostly suck and you can't even get the moonlight greatsword until the final main area of the game, and the soul required to make it can also be made into a unique spell that you won't be able to get until ng+ when you kill the boss in the endgame again. it's ridiculous The game in general seems really back-loaded when it comes to cool/fun things, which is a shame. I spent the entirety of the game up to the final boss using a straight sword I got an hour into the game, and only changed weapons once I got the Dragonslayer's Swordspear (which I used to kill the final boss). There are several really fun weapons you can't get until the very last area, and there are coals and infusion gems you can't get until you're mostly done with the game. I assume they want to incentivize NG+ but that's pretty dumb considering how hard this game already is.
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Apr 21, 2016 07:37
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Wow man once you know where it all is you can grab the 3 or 4 useful items in Farron Keep, extinguish all 3 fires, and be fuckin' outta there in 15 minutes.
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Just beat the final boss. I still have one optional to go, but he's annoying and I hate how the camera works when fighting him so I'll probably just ignore it until the weekend. Soul of Cinder is probably my favorite last boss in any of these games. False King Allant was good, but Gwyn, Nashandra and even the first hunter were total letdowns and went down either much too easily or just weren't that fun. The last boss of DS3 definitely doesn't have that problem. Overall the game is technically very well made, but I'd probably have a better overall impression of it had I not slogged through with a faith build. Miracles just blow, and re-applying buffs mid fight is an exercise in futility unless the boss has a phase change or 4+ second combo that you can avoid instantly and then let them carry out while you apply one of the 2-4 buffs you may be using. When it became apparent that this was the case I really should've just respecced, but I didn't, so I guess that's on me. Still sucks.
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Doctobear posted:Any tips for the abyss watchers ? Im having a hell of a time even getting to the location with those two drat darkwraiths . Do those guys respawn after you kill them ? When you exit the ruins where that bonfire is, just stick to the right. You'll run into ~3-4 single HoofMans, but the Dark Wraiths will be busy fighting the grouped up HoofMans.
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I LIKE TO SMOKE WEE posted:I dropped the prop hunt branches for my sunbros and we ganked the hell out of some poor idiots. Some people seem to always see through them, is there a ring that does that? When people are messing around in one zone for a long time, it gets pretty easy to recognize objects that are out of place. In places with tons of barrels and stuff it isn't as bad, but in areas with sparse debris. it stands out like a sore thumb after you have been through the zone a couple of times.
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Mimingless posted:I can't speak for everyone, but for PvE at least, I felt that lack of Estus a grand total of once in my entire playthrough. You get plenty of Estus that splitting off some of it for Ash isn't really a problem, especially if that Ash turns into risk-free kills at range that might have cost you health if you engaged in melee. For boss fights my problem was more dying before I could heal than running out. The Estus split is loving horrible early game, both because your spells do dick all damage so you need to cast more of them to kill stuff and your estus sucks. Later on it doesn't matter because you have a billion flasks anyway, but it's a huge issue at the start. Most of your early game consists of whapping things with a raw weapon while you carefully husband your precious few shots to use on bigger enemies. Cast speed ring is worth 30+ dex, so it's non-negotiable. Affinity and Homing Soulmass are easier to dodge than they have ever been, especially since they specifically removed the old "stagger them once so the pursuers slam into them during the stagger" trick. Flashsword was good, but they just nerfed it because reasons??? I'm not meaning to say that magic builds can't get through the game and eventually become pretty fun to play, they're just crippled and hobbled with a bunch of dumb ornerous poo poo that melee builds don't have to deal with and it's pretty frustrating. I did a dex playthrough, then did a pyro run and then a sorcerer run and both were infinitely shittier. Kanos fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Apr 21, 2016 |
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Darke GBF posted:Soul of Cinder is probably my favorite last boss in any of these games. False King Allant was good, but Gwyn, Nashandra and even the first hunter were total letdowns and went down either much too easily or just weren't that fun. The last boss of DS3 definitely doesn't have that problem. You probably already know this, but just in case, the first hunter isn't the final boss of Bloodborne.
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Turtlicious posted:Dark Magic Explained That spreadsheet is private.
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Holy poo poo it's like an old Loony Tunes episode.
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This Brass Armor set I just picked up is extremely my poo poo, shame about the lightning resist though I also picked up a Crescent Moon Sword, which seems neat. Is it any good? Edit: also, I have no idea what talisman/chime I should be going for. Is Saint's Talisman OK?
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voltcatfish posted:Yeah I summoned a sunbro both times to be nice and help them get some medals, this apparently just horribly breaks the Crystal Sage. Yeah, I googled up if black crystaling out too much as repercussions (apparently it does, maybe?) because while my own two tries against him went properly, my Sunbroing attempts after the fact were buggy as gently caress. One of the functional times felt good though, because I used my tiny 14 Faith heal to top up and keep alive a host who was apparently completely out of Estus  Players seem much more aware of when their Summon suddenly takes a prayer pose when they have no way of healing themselves, and at least Sage has good gaps to hold the pose for them to get close. Trying to heal allies in most fights would likely just get you both killed, even if they knew it was coming. Section Z fucked around with this message at 07:57 on Apr 21, 2016 |
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Xenolalia posted:when the sky changes it changes everywhere except firelink. Hahaha damnit. When I saw the sky had changed at Lothric Castle, I went back to Firelink to check if it had changed everywhere else because I knew a similar thing happened in Bloodborne. But I guess I never revisited a single other outdoor area before beating the game, so I assumed it hadn't.
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Lester Shy posted:Hahaha damnit. When I saw the sky had changed at Lothric Castle, I went back to Firelink to check if it had changed everywhere else because I knew a similar thing happened in Bloodborne. But I guess I never revisited a single other outdoor area before beating the game, so I assumed it hadn't. yeah, I'm super not married to the idea, but I think we might have another hunter's dream vs the actual abandoned workshop situation going on with firelink/untended firelink
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Your Computer posted:Has anyone here (especially with a GTX 970) dabbled in downsampling? And is there a write-up yet on the performance hits of the different settings? At 1.5x downsampling the game looked pretty great and I only got a ~5-15 fps drop in Firelink on high settings (even better at 2x but the framerate fell to 30 fps which is not fun), and considering how little difference there is between Low and Max settings I feel like it'd be more worth it to spend GPU power on downsampling rather than whatever the settings do. That said, I'd still like to see examples of what the different settings actually do at low/med/high/max. No one replied to this, but if anyone else is interested this is the closest thing I could find to a write-up: http://www.pcgamer.com/durantes-dark-souls-3-port-analysis/2/ Which is pretty neat since it's from Durante, the dude who made DSFix and GeDoSaTo.
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So I got the Moonlight Greatsword and it looks really good in this game, I kind of want to make my next character a wizard just so I can use it, even if that means skipping out on another rad spell.
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I'd be surprised if pale dragon breath is actually worth a drat in this game. It sure wasn't in DS1.
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Your Computer posted:The game in general seems really back-loaded when it comes to cool/fun things, which is a shame. I spent the entirety of the game up to the final boss using a straight sword I got an hour into the game, and only changed weapons once I got the Dragonslayer's Swordspear (which I used to kill the final boss). There are several really fun weapons you can't get until the very last area, and there are coals and infusion gems you can't get until you're mostly done with the game. I assume they want to incentivize NG+ but that's pretty dumb considering how hard this game already is. it does suck that a lot of cool stuff is relegated to the endgame or as an either or choice via boss soul transposition, but ng+ has always been easier in souls games than ng. haven't done it in this one, but in demon's souls, dark souls 1, and dark souls 2, it wasn't balanced properly so you were waaaaay too strong for a long time, and in bloodborne you are about as strong as you were in ng for the whole game. ng++ and beyond are where it starts getting harder because you're about capped out for scaling by then while the enemies just keep going
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What's a good bleed weapon? I'm still going vanilla right now with Astoria great sword and have my halberd as backup but em they are only +6 right now. Wondering if it's prudent to even have a bleed weapon though katana might be nice
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So here's a question, can you invade people if you've beaten the boss? I can't remember if you can or not. Secondly, does beating the Dancer early unlock the castle, and does it lock you out of invading in early areas or any NPC questlines?
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Nuebot posted:So here's a question, can you invade people if you've beaten the boss? I can't remember if you can or not. Secondly, does beating the Dancer unlock the castle, and does it lock you out of invading in early areas or any NPC questlines? yup, yup, nope
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Turtlicious posted:Dark Magic Explained WrightOfWay posted:That spreadsheet is private. Oh I fixed it. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TbK4UVHz5A33CzpBkMs81o8OOB9aWqQU3UEWVRPkXeY/edit?usp=sharing
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Spooky Bear Ghost posted:yup, yup, nope Awesome, now to get good enough to beat dancer and Ocieros without dying on a fresh character so I can get the moonlight sword early. Also so I can get the artorias armor on another character and invade people as artorias.
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So if you join rosaries fingers even once that whole dark moon quest is gone?
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Alan Smithee posted:So if you join rosaries fingers even once that whole dark moon quest is gone? sirris goes hostile (technically; she'll just stand on the stairs in firelink forever if you never talk to her, so you can just do that if you don't want to kill her) if you join them, but you can finish the questline and then join the covenant
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Manatee Cannon posted:it does suck that a lot of cool stuff is relegated to the endgame or as an either or choice via boss soul transposition, but ng+ has always been easier in souls games than ng. haven't done it in this one, but in demon's souls, dark souls 1, and dark souls 2, it wasn't balanced properly so you were waaaaay too strong for a long time, and in bloodborne you are about as strong as you were in ng for the whole game. ng++ and beyond are where it starts getting harder because you're about capped out for scaling by then while the enemies just keep going Really? I suppose I could respec and put some points into Vigor (it's usually the last stat I put points into, if ever), which could balance it out. I was thinking more in terms on "bosses and enemies are already two-shotting me in NG, how fast will I die in NG+" but I guess that's very much my own fault 
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Is anyone up to NG+ ? Is everything in exactly the same position or do they change some stuff up?
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I fought a boss with a good sunbro and we cleaned house first try, which was kind of disappointing since I liked the zone. Someone else fought that same boss and it was total bullshit and their build didn't work and their phantoms sucked and it was the defining moment of their entire game when they landed that last desperate hit. Tell me those good stories about fighting a thing!
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So what's so great about dark moon blade that people want to grind these chance encounters? I mean don't get me wrong I run policecops covenants because they always bring you somewhere interesting at least when it happens once in a blue moon Also is it even worthwhile trying to parry in a coop boss session? Does that even work
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