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Archenteron posted:Is there a recommended Armada builder website? The resources for that game aren't as fleshed out as xwing Eimi posted:I prefer Armada Warlords. http://armadawarlords.hivelabs.solutions/
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New to armada. Han Solo can activate a max of two times a turn if you have some officer along, right? Cause we were definitely playing that wrong.
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fnordcircle posted:New to armada. Right. If you've got *Adar Tallon along the way it would go is: 1) During the turn of the ship on which Adar is on, he activates however many fighters his ship's squadron command allows, including Han. 2) Adar uses his special ability to flip Han's marker to unactivated. 3) During the fighter phase (or possibly another ship's activation with squadron command) Han gets to go again. Note, however, that this is incompatible with using Han's special "first in the turn" activation because Adar's ability to re-energize fighters only works for fighters he activated with his squadron command. If Han already activated himself at the beginning of the round, then he's done. e: Too put it another way, no, Han normally does not get to activate twice a round. His special ability only lets him activate first in the round...not first in the round and then again during normal play. jng2058 fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Apr 15, 2016 |
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Went to an Armada spring tournament today, went 9-1 three times in a row, won easily. Lots of erratic lists that didn't seem to have much focus. Ran the same thing as the store championship a while back. I'm seeing some pretty low turnout for these events, and not many familiar faces or people running what I would consider to be seriously competitive fleets. I'm still hoping that FFG doesn't neglect this game so much that nobody bothers anymore.
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Reynold posted:Went to an Armada spring tournament today, went 9-1 three times in a row, won easily. Lots of erratic lists that didn't seem to have much focus. Ran the same thing as the store championship a while back. I'm seeing some pretty low turnout for these events, and not many familiar faces or people running what I would consider to be seriously competitive fleets. I'm still hoping that FFG doesn't neglect this game so much that nobody bothers anymore. Yeah, even the Region I went to last weekend only had 14 people. Compared to the 50 or so the upcoming X Wing regional the numbers difference is stark. I'm not sure if this is unusual for slower games of this type, as Xwing is both older but faster, but just that difference in numbers is stark.
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There are a few people selling off their collection/promo cards in the UK Armada facebook group. When I play a game I usually have to go to my mate's house because playing in the LGS is difficult since in order to get a double table you have to book more than a week in advance. I'm still having a lot of fun with the game and I'm enjoying it more than when only Wave I was out, but I don't know how well it bodes for the system, and Armada seems to play second fiddle to the crushing popularity of X-Wing.
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Tekopo posted:There are a few people selling off their collection/promo cards in the UK Armada facebook group. When I play a game I usually have to go to my mate's house because playing in the LGS is difficult since in order to get a double table you have to book more than a week in advance. I'm still having a lot of fun with the game and I'm enjoying it more than when only Wave I was out, but I don't know how well it bodes for the system, and Armada seems to play second fiddle to the crushing popularity of X-Wing. If getting a 6' table is an issue, does that mean your LGS doesn't get much mass battle gaming on? Or that it does and you have to compete with the GW crowd for space?
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Apr 18, 2016 16:48
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 My store has a single 6 x 4 table and a lot of 4 x 4s, so we built a 6 x 3 cardboard table extender to give us play space on the 4x4s so we could get multiple games in at once.
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Ugleb posted:If getting a 6' table is an issue, does that mean your LGS doesn't get much mass battle gaming on? Or that it does and you have to compete with the GW crowd for space?
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There are no dedicated game maps for Armada out at the moment are there? I suppose the other alternative would be just to put 2 X-Wing Mats together?
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:There are no dedicated game maps for Armada out at the moment are there? I suppose the other alternative would be just to put 2 X-Wing Mats together? Try Deepcut studios.
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Val Helmethead posted:
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Tried out Rebellion today and it's really,really fun! Only 2 problems arose. 1.Combat is pretty unfun and tedious and really makes you not want to get into big battles, which honestly was part of the appeal to me, but overall you're not gonna spend much time on it in the grand scheme of things so i guess it's okay. 2. Fantasy Flight's legendary bad wording came into effect when it comes to describing the Command phase. But luckily the mistake on our part was easily caught and fixed. Happened only the one time over the entire game Definitly miles better than Impass' rules were. Probably am gonna have a team game tommorow night so will see how that plays out.
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:Probably am gonna have a team game tommorow night so will see how that plays out. Definitely let us know how the team game works out. I've heard some mixed reports about how the leader action splitting is weird but having a partner to strategize with seems perfect for this game. I'm wondering if it's better to just play the normal 1v1 rules with extra players or do the full team game.
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Combat being an unfun slog seems to be a pretty common complaint, and it also seems like a pretty loving big dealbreaker for a $100 game about a galactic civil war.
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Yeah I got to play Rebellion and it was distinctively alright, not that great but not that bad. I bought it for a pretty substantial discount and split the cost with a friend of mine, which is why I got it at all, since otherwise I would have skipped on it. My biggest issues are the combat system: I hate that sometimes you just end up having dud hands of tactical cards and there is nothing that you can really do about it, and overall I feel that the cards that don't require an activation are much better than cards that do require one. The objectives are pretty badly design as well, IMO: in my first (and so far only) game, the rebellion won after destroying a couple of ships, including TIE Fighters. That got them one objective point. For comparison, getting to Coruscant, invading it and removing all imperial presence there gets you two objective points. One seems a lot easier than the other.
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:There are no dedicated game maps for Armada out at the moment are there? I suppose the other alternative would be just to put 2 X-Wing Mats together? I have one of these for xwing, I plan on getting a 3x6 very soon http://www.ds-tone.com/space-mats/
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Ezekiel_980 posted:I have one of these for xwing, I plan on getting a 3x6 very soon Are they too smooth or slide-y?
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Tekopo posted:Yeah I got to play Rebellion and it was distinctively alright, not that great but not that bad. I bought it for a pretty substantial discount and split the cost with a friend of mine, which is why I got it at all, since otherwise I would have skipped on it. My biggest issues are the combat system: I hate that sometimes you just end up having dud hands of tactical cards and there is nothing that you can really do about it, and overall I feel that the cards that don't require an activation are much better than cards that do require one. The objectives are pretty badly design as well, IMO: in my first (and so far only) game, the rebellion won after destroying a couple of ships, including TIE Fighters. That got them one objective point. For comparison, getting to Coruscant, invading it and removing all imperial presence there gets you two objective points. One seems a lot easier than the other. To be fair, Heart of the Empire returns to hand so you get 2vp every turn until the Empire kicks you out. The combat definitely needs a massive overhaul, making results a little more consistent and making the action cards have some inherent use might go a long way
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So the inevitable expansion will end up fixing everything and making it awesome like the TI3 expansions did?
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:2. Fantasy Flight's legendary bad wording came into effect when it comes to describing the Command phase. But luckily the mistake on our part was easily caught and fixed. Happened only the one time over the entire game Could you explain how? I've played five-six turns of it so far, and have not run into any issues.
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:Combat is pretty unfun and tedious and really makes you not want to get into big battles, which honestly was part of the appeal to me, but overall you're not gonna spend much time on it in the grand scheme of things so i guess it's okay. Sounds like it's true to the source material at least.
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SlyFrog posted:Could you explain how? I've played five-six turns of it so far, and have not run into any issues. The wording on it led us to think that during the command phase you either moved dudes around or did missions, as in you were fully committed to doing one or the other for the turn and coulden't do anything else. I had completely missed the part where it mentions you alternate taking turns doing this until you both pass. Like i said before the error on our part was caught early on because the rebel player got a card who's effects would make no sense the way we were playing it.
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:The wording on it led us to think that during the command phase you either moved dudes around or did missions, as in you were fully committed to doing one or the other for the turn and coulden't do anything else. I had completely missed the part where it mentions you alternate taking turns doing this until you both pass. I guess I don't get how that is their "legendary bad wording." I don't have the rules in front of me, but I thought it pretty clearly said you can do one or the other with each leader (and were not limited to doing only one or the other each turn)?
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Tekopo posted:The objectives are pretty badly design as well, IMO: in my first (and so far only) game, the rebellion won after destroying a couple of ships, including TIE Fighters. That got them one objective point. For comparison, getting to Coruscant, invading it and removing all imperial presence there gets you two objective points. One seems a lot easier than the other. I've played a couple of games of Rebellion, and so far I really like it but I'm still trying to figure it out. On the objectives, I'm not sure what the ship one you are referring to is, but the Coruscant one also returns to the rebel hand after they play it. In one of my first games that card came up when we didn't know it existed, and the rebels absolutely crushed with it by playing a mission card that let them drop units into a rebel system. I think the mission exists to keep the Empire honest and keep the system defended.
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Have any of you who've played Rebellion also played War of the Ring? The two seem to be in the same wheelhouse and I'd be interested to hear how they compare/contrast to one another.
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im pretty sure as the empire you need to go through the objective deck and see what is there in order to make informed choices, but this does seem to be against the spirit of the game, I've been told about the coruscant one going back to the hand, but my opponent just mentioned it at the end of the game and I didn't get to read it. Gonna dig through the objectives tomorrow and do a bit of analysis to see what's what.
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After playing a few games I definitely started to feel like card knowledge was a big part of the game for both sides. Even the Rebel player would be helped by knowing the objective deck ahead of time since they can start making moves towards objective cards they don't have in their hand yet, and bluff what objectives they might have to lead the Empire in the wrong direction. I feel like it will end up being like Twilight Struggle in that regard - it's a completely different game if both players have intimate knowledge of the cards and what their opponent could hold. I'll agree with everyone that the combat itself is kind of meh, but that seems like such a small part of the game and most combat encounters I experienced were over pretty quickly.
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Is this where I ask about Armada? I plan on getting the core set and Home One, but what imperial expansion do I get so that both sides will be fairly even? Another Victory class? Or do I just go whole hog with the Imperial class?
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Is this where I ask about Armada? I plan on getting the core set and Home One, but what imperial expansion do I get so that both sides will be fairly even? Another Victory class? Or do I just go whole hog with the Imperial class? If you're getting the MC80, you almost certainly should get an Imperial class too because the MC80 will eat everything else alive. I'd actually recommend starting with an Assault Frigate and a Gladiator because they're a little cheaper and give both sides some interesting new options, but I understand the appeal of playing with the big boys. The MC80 and Imperial should be fairly balanced with each other, so if you're just throwing them and the core set ships at each other, you should be able to put together equal point-value lists that would give a fun game. If you want to expand again, I'd probably recommend the Rebel and Imperial squadron packs next since they add some nice options to your squadron game beyond just X-Wings and TIE Fighters.
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I'm actually strongly considering selling my Armada stuff because I've literally played two games of it and don't foresee ever playing it again. If you don't mind buying secondhand Big Mean Jerk, I'm willing to sell you all the stuff I've got for the price of a core set (one core set, an Assault Frigate, a CR90 and Nebulon B expac, and a Rebel Fighters pack).
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Kai Tave posted:I'm actually strongly considering selling my Armada stuff because I've literally played two games of it and don't foresee ever playing it again. If you don't mind buying secondhand Big Mean Jerk, I'm willing to sell you all the stuff I've got for the price of a core set (one core set, an Assault Frigate, a CR90 and Nebulon B expac, and a Rebel Fighters pack). It's tempting, but for now I'm buying my Armada stuff with Miniature Market store credit. If you still have it after I play a game or two, I'll shoot you a message.
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blackmongoose posted:If you're getting the MC80, you almost certainly should get an Imperial class too because the MC80 will eat everything else alive. I'd actually recommend starting with an Assault Frigate and a Gladiator because they're a little cheaper and give both sides some interesting new options, but I understand the appeal of playing with the big boys. The MC80 and Imperial should be fairly balanced with each other, so if you're just throwing them and the core set ships at each other, you should be able to put together equal point-value lists that would give a fun game. If you want to expand again, I'd probably recommend the Rebel and Imperial squadron packs next since they add some nice options to your squadron game beyond just X-Wings and TIE Fighters. Here's a new player's guide that I put together awhile back, and yes, if you got Home One you need an ISD for balance. But get an Assault Frigate / Gladiator next. http://xwingtactics.blogspot.com/p/new-players-guide.html
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Trip report from the 3 player game i had last night. I was the sole rebel player against 2 Imperials, with one new player on the imps side. Overall not that great. The core gameplay itself didn't really suffer but having to play as 2 players when you are only one was tedious and kind of annoying, especially as the game goes on and the rounds get longer and longer because you're having to split your leaders in half. By the time it'd get to my "general's" turn i'd have forgotten what missions i had placed down and why sometimes. The Imps reported having it worse since while they were both working together, they mentioned it being hard to try and strategist without messing up whatever plans the other might have. On the plus side, the splitting up of the duties seemed to help our new player learn the game a bit easier as he was only in charge of mostly ground battles and the missions as the general. But once he had picked up on how the game works he quickly agreed with the other player how having a second player made things harder overall. Granted, none of us have had any experience with wargames more complex than Risk and i'm sure there are other wargames out there that handle having multiple players much better than this one. But overall i'd say this one doesn't really lend itself well to more than 2 players. I personally would like to try again with 4 and see if having a full team on each side would help anything at all, but judging by how bad the imps had it i don't know if it's really worth it.
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Kai Tave posted:Aight, cool. If that offer is still open in a week I might take you up on it (if BMG doesn't).
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From what I've seen of Rebellion "team play" is just an excuse to put "2-4 players" on the box
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StashAugustine posted:From what I've seen of Rebellion "team play" is just an excuse to put "2-4 players" on the box Pretty much exactly right, it looks better if sombody going through the game shop sees this big, lovely box and sees 2-4 players and thinks "oh wow, me and my friends love star wars, and this looks like some kind of strategy game, this looks like a great fit for us!" Then they drop the hundo on it and suddenly about 3 and half hours of everybody lives are gone.
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Finster Dexter posted:Are they too smooth or slide-y? Slightly sticker than the official x-wing mats.
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