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LeftistMuslimObama posted:we have 2 client infrastructures. the old one which is 100% vb6 COM stuff, and the new one which is a .net-based web server serving up html+javascript for the UI and doing the business logicy stuff in C# on the web server. the host application that the end users run is written in vb6 which then hosts the .net stuff within a browser control. once we're 100% on .net the plan is to throw away the installable client completely and make the software accessible via browser so our customers can stop using shitrix. haha guess what module we are adding to our own application soon!
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Apr 21, 2016 18:43
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Shaggar posted:haha guess what module we are adding to our own application soon! i was honestly pretty negative on the idea of doing an applewatch thing because i think smartwatches are super dumb, but apparently the docs at the first org to go live on it fuckin cream their jeans for that poo poo. probably just another way for them to feel better than the nurses who only get mere iphones.
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Apr 21, 2016 19:04
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The essential terrible programmer library http://imgur.com/gallery/vqUQ5
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Apr 21, 2016 19:05
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:i was honestly pretty negative on the idea of doing an applewatch thing because i think smartwatches are super dumb, but apparently the docs at the first org to go live on it fuckin cream their jeans for that poo poo. probably just another way for them to feel better than the nurses who only get mere iphones. nah we arent doing a watch app. that would be stupid. we're adding more care management stuff.
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Apr 21, 2016 19:12
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also getting totally psyched about a loving watch app is doctor as hell
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Apr 21, 2016 19:13
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Shaggar posted:nah we arent doing a watch app. that would be stupid. we're adding more care management stuff. ah. my domain is very specifically managed care in the sense of being a health plan or delegated risk organization that manages enrollment, claims, um, etc. for an example, Kaiser Permanente is our most prominent customer. "care management" is also a big buzzword right now but in the more general sense of "clinics should make sure their patients actually get regular physicals and poo poo".
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Apr 21, 2016 19:19
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yes. that's what we're doing
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Apr 21, 2016 19:19
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i'm going to make a configuration file that sets the logging level to debug, for every loving java logging library. then i'm going to copy those files into every directory on my hard disk. that ought to loving work
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Apr 21, 2016 19:20
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we take the claims data and other crap from your emr, throw it thru some analysis, and then generate work items for patients based on care needs from the analysis.
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Apr 21, 2016 19:20
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Wheany posted:i'm going to make a configuration file that sets the logging level to debug, for every loving java logging library. then i'm going to copy those files into every directory on my hard disk. that ought to loving work don't do that. use slf4j in your own stuff and then use the various slf4j bridges to replace other logger api dependencies and then use logback.
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Apr 21, 2016 19:21
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btw the company that bought us is partially owned by AllScripts, though we have sales partnerships w/ a few different EMRs. not epic afaik tho
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Apr 21, 2016 19:22
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i'm actually just going to stop configuring anything and log everything at level FATAL
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Apr 21, 2016 19:22
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Wheany posted:i'm actually just going to stop configuring anything and log everything at level FATAL *** Anal circumference mismatch error ***
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Apr 21, 2016 19:26
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Luigi Thirty posted:*** Anal circumference mismatch error *** someone should write a FATAL programming language
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Apr 21, 2016 19:30
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eschaton posted:when did quoting olin shivers become cool? a few of my classmates would sometimes quote the jokes that he made during lectures they were not the cool classmates his jokes were mostly pretty good, though
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Apr 21, 2016 19:31
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Shaggar posted:btw the company that bought us is partially owned by AllScripts, though we have sales partnerships w/ a few different EMRs. not epic afaik tho that doesnt surprise me. if an org with a health plan is on epic, they're probably going to be using our managed care module. its actually one of our older modules so we've had a couple decades to really tailor to the needs of a healthcare org that is also an insurer/at risk party. plus since the emr and insurer are on the same platform sharing a database, we can do a lot of stuff to direct both payor and clinical case management in a coordinated manner efficiently. at least, thats what i tell myself when i start to feel like a bad guy because something i made let our customers fire another claim examiner.
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Apr 21, 2016 19:36
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the more people the emr fires the better because they were doing it wrong and costing money all while sacrificing patient care
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Apr 21, 2016 19:38
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the idea here is that we have the actual nurse agents who will be doing the work on our staff so we plug our poo poo into the hospital emr and just start cranking through the work. no need for the hospital to employee more nurses themselves
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Apr 21, 2016 19:40
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Shaggar posted:don't do that. use slf4j in your own stuff and then use the various slf4j bridges to replace other logger api dependencies and then use logback. shaggar is extremely right here. slf4j bridges are amazing, redirect everything to logback
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Apr 21, 2016 19:44
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Shaggar posted:the idea here is that we have the actual nurse agents who will be doing the work on our staff so we plug our poo poo into the hospital emr and just start cranking through the work. no need for the hospital to employee more nurses themselves im still a little ambiguous as to what you do, are you guys basically like an outsourcing agency for on-call nurses and stuff like that?
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Apr 21, 2016 19:44
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the ambiguity is because we do everything but yeah that's some of it. we do non-clinical stuff too like class/event reg, phys referral, service referral, etc... we do work for providers and payers of all shapes and sizes both private and public. Since we are EMR agnostic we can attach at various levels of integration from pretty much none to we get the requests from your emr, do the work, and send the collected results back to your emr.
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Apr 21, 2016 19:48
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luckily Kaiser Permanente is not one of our clients because I would always refer to them as Kaiser Pimento
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Apr 21, 2016 19:49
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Shaggar posted:the ambiguity is because we do everything but yeah that's some of it. we do non-clinical stuff too like class/event reg, phys referral, service referral, etc... neat. we nearly always just call 'em KP, but ive learned that there are somehow people who have never heard of them despite their enormity so i tend to spell it out in online convos now. KP is insanely high on what we can do for their claims management. we just did our spring user meeting and they did several presentations where they basically just humble bragged about how awesome they're doing with Tapestry (the name of the module I work on).
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Apr 21, 2016 19:52
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a thing that is satisfying to me is when we start up some sales w/ a hospital and suggest our services could help find and fix some of their process problems but then they decide its not worth it to them and then later they end up dead freaking last on medicares patient safety score ratings.
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Apr 21, 2016 19:52
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:neat. we nearly always just call 'em KP, but ive learned that there are somehow people who have never heard of them despite their enormity so i tend to spell it out in online convos now. KP is insanely high on what we can do for their claims management. we just did our spring user meeting and they did several presentations where they basically just humble bragged about how awesome they're doing with Tapestry (the name of the module I work on). cool. its cool to fix things in healthcare
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Shaggar posted:a thing that is satisfying to me is when we start up some sales w/ a hospital and suggest our services could help find and fix some of their process problems but then they decide its not worth it to them and then later they end up dead freaking last on medicares patient safety score ratings. same, except they buy cerner and then its so bad that 2 years later they scrap it and replace it with us. and then neal cries at a conference again.
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Apr 21, 2016 19:56
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kaiser permanente is good but sounds evil. yes i know that kaiser is the founder's name and permanente is a nearby creek, but that's sure not what it sounds like DER KAISER PERMANENTE!! SIEG HEIL!!
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cerner is atleast better than eclinicalworks. oh my god what a load of dogshit is eclinicalworks
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Shaggar posted:cerner is atleast better than eclinicalworks. oh my god what a load of dogshit is eclinicalworks in my previous life as an outsourced phonemonkey i had to support this thing called "American HealthTech" that was easily the biggest poo poo garbage ever. its database was literally a big pile of csv files on an ftp server. that was the vendor's recommended setup. also some lovely web emr called Vision that's only noticable feature was apparently forgetting 3 days worth of progress notes every couple of months. the org that used that emr was Country Villa, which you may remember as the organization that was scamming medicare by giving all the olds they admitted Phenobarbitol so it would look like they were deteriorating, enabling them to bill DRGs that included more expensive interventions. come to think of it, maybe they were just deleting evidence and then having my outsourced rear end jump through hoops trying to figure out where the data went so that there was a paper trail of "this was a bug, not a crime". that news didnt break until well after id left that poo poo job.
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quote:If x is floating point, the conversion truncates towards zero.
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kalstrams posted:english is being particularly uncooperative today. we round down here, right? think about what happens with negative numbers.
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:think about what happens with negative numbers. 
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kalstrams posted:english is being particularly uncooperative today. we round down here, right? "Rounding down" is ambiguous for negative numbers. "Truncates towards zero" means 1.735 becomes 1.000, but also -1.735 becomes -1.000. The alternate meaning is "Rounds towards negative infinity" where 1.735 becomes 1.000, but -1.735 becomes -2.000.
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kalstrams posted:english is being particularly uncooperative today. we round down here, right? 1.9 gets turned into 1 -1.9 gets turned into -1 Who knows what happens with Infinity, -Infinity, and NaN
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kalstrams posted:well i hav eonly positive numbers, so we are rounding down you like to dance close to the fire, don't you?
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Fergus Mac Roich posted:you like to dance close to the fire, don't you? also thanks everyone, im wee bit less terrible spaghetti coder now
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Okay so I got myself curious about what happens when you truncate Infinity, -Infinity, and NaN, so I went to see what would happen in Haskell.code:
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ieee 754, 2^1024 is just outside what a double can represent
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Hehcode:code:HappyHippo fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Apr 21, 2016 |
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