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Bernie's positions on health care, minimum wage, taxes, and college education are dumb as gently caress and won't work because Americans are too fat and greedy to actually get them done
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Also guns are retarded and should be banned in America except for swat teams or something Also the military should be reduced by like 50% if not more Probably never going to happen Maybe hunting for sport or pleasure can be banned, that's pretty loving dumb too these are my dumb opinions, if you don't like them then you can gently caress off
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Here is my true and honest political opinion: I pulled the primary lever for Sanders purely to demonstrate that there is a desire for progressive policies within the Democratic Party, and I will happily and with enthusiasm pull the lever for Hillary in the general because the Republican Party is toxic and destructive and a continuation of Obama's policies, albeit with slightly more interventionism, is a breath of fresh air in comparison.
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Apr 21, 2016 20:12
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Powercrazy posted:What makes you say that? As long as we have energy available we can counter-act entropy, cells are no different. probably hope, more than anything Also it always strikes me as utopian dreaming about things that are probably impossible, or at least utterly unfeasible. Like most of what comp sci people think about real sciences. limited extensions of lifespans via biotechnology is probably coming "soon" though! fabergay egg has issued a correction as of 20:43 on Apr 21, 2016 |
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It disappoints me that neither Bernie or Hillary are really big on nuclear power, which I feel is a more realistic way of getting clean energy than solar panels and wind.
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Apr 21, 2016 20:27
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AHH FUGH posted:Maybe hunting for sport or pleasure can be banned, that's pretty loving dumb too Hunting is like a win-win though. We only allow it for animal populations that are too large and are in danger of overbreeding and we make money from hunting permits! It's honestly more humane for an animal to get a quick clean death than have to suffer and starve due to overpopulation.
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Apr 21, 2016 20:38
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If I could hunt for my meat I would do it in a heartbeat. Factory farms are hell on earth.
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Apr 21, 2016 20:41
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SunAndSpring posted:It disappoints me that neither Bernie or Hillary are really big on nuclear power, which I feel is a more realistic way of getting clean energy than solar panels and wind. 
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Apr 21, 2016 20:56
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Best Giraffe posted:probably hope, more than anything Yea. There are things that are 'cool' and would be "great" if they were possible, i.e. Faster then Light travel, Teleportation, "Cold-Fusion" or "Free Energy." But there are specific well-understood physical laws preventing those things from ever being possible, especially in the short-term. Biotech advancement into life-elongation isn't one of those things. There is no fundamental reason that death is inevitable, except for the end of the universe of course. Life isn't special. 
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SunAndSpring posted:It disappoints me that neither Bernie or Hillary are really big on nuclear power, which I feel is a more realistic way of getting clean energy than solar panels and wind. It seems like very few Dems have an actual coherent plan for transitioning off of fossil fuels, they just push for stopping their use while never addressing how to fully replace them.
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Powercrazy posted:Yea. There are things that are 'cool' and would be "great" if they were possible, i.e. Faster then Light travel, Teleportation, "Cold-Fusion" or "Free Energy." But there are specific well-understood physical laws preventing those things from ever being possible, especially in the short-term. Biotech advancement into life-elongation isn't one of those things. There is no fundamental reason that death is inevitable, except for the end of the universe of course. I'm gonna put my consciousness into a computer and after my body dies I'm gonna come mess up all your files and games. your life isn't special but my revenge from beyond the grave will be. Buckle up nerd
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Wheeee posted:this is a joke, but there's also truth to it Si.
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Quorum posted:Entropy/Death 2016: Even if you don't elect us this year, we'll inevitably win eventually. 
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Quorum posted:Entropy/Death 2016: Even if you don't elect us this year, we'll inevitably win eventually. Everyone votes for them eventually
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This Death guy sounds really pragmatic. Sounds like someone who can get things done.
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he's not afraid to reach across the aisle
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Quorum posted:Here is my true and honest political opinion: I pulled the primary lever for Sanders purely to demonstrate that there is a desire for progressive policies within the Democratic Party, and I will happily and with enthusiasm pull the lever for Hillary in the general because the Republican Party is toxic and destructive and a continuation of Obama's policies, albeit with slightly more interventionism, is a breath of fresh air in comparison. Honest to god, the same. the GOP is worse then any hypersensitive dipshit lefty i might dissagree with at this point. Ill take a soft hawk social lefty to whatever shitshow the GOP chooses.
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People who say "pull the lever" are hopelessly out of touch.
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Powercrazy posted:People who say "pull the lever" are hopelessly out of touch. Tell us something we don't know about Hillary supporters pls.
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Immortan posted:This is so, so wrong. Identity politics is capitalism's greatest life insurance plan. Nah, hatred of the Other and a willingness to exploit Them because of that hatred is at the core of capitalism.
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Peztopiary posted:Nah, hatred of the Other and a willingness to exploit Them because of that hatred is at the core of capitalism. Thanks for rephrasing my post?
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Peztopiary posted:Nah, hatred of the Other and a willingness to exploit Them because of that hatred is at the core of capitalism. Holy poo poo, definitely not.
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Capitalism works just "fine" without hating anybody, unfortunately.
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Powercrazy posted:People who say "pull the lever" are hopelessly out of touch. This is a bad political opinion, as I am convinced the only reason I am politically aware despite being The Hated Youth is that my parents took me into their lovely rural voting booth in Culpeper, Virginia and let me pull the lever for whoever they were voting for, probably some terrible rural Republican congressman. The satisfying KA-CHUNK of the lever is the song of democracy in action.
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Apr 22, 2016 03:47
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I really like Bernie Sanders and 98% of of his policy positions. If he somehow manages to win the nomination I will gladly vote for him. His cult of followers are human poo poo.
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crabcakes66 posted:I really like Bernie Sanders and 98% of of his policy positions. If he somehow manages to win the nomination I will gladly vote for him.
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You mean his vocal internet supporters?
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crabcakes66 posted:I really like Bernie Sanders and 98% of of his policy positions. If he somehow manages to win the nomination I will gladly vote for him. this. all they do is cry and bitch. and claim anyone that isnt saint benie is an evil conservative and that bernie should run 3rd party.
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Bernie bros are the new Social Justice Warriors
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stoutfish posted:Bernie bros are the new Social Justice Warriors a barely-existent fringe group whose presence is blown wildly out of proportion by those who wish to disregard not only the fringe but also the more popular and difficult to dismiss movement of which they are a part?
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stoutfish posted:Bernie bros are the new Social Justice Warriors some of them do that kinda poo poo. others dont. honestly it doesnt matter.
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stoutfish posted:Bernie bros are the new Social Justice Warriors Nah, they are the new GamerGaters. They are simultaneously harassing all clinton supporters everywhere at all times, and also just a vocal minority who are pathetic poor white college virgins. They are a Big Problem, but also laughably impotent. A conundrum.
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Powercrazy posted:Yea. There are things that are 'cool' and would be "great" if they were possible, i.e. Faster then Light travel, Teleportation, "Cold-Fusion" or "Free Energy." But there are specific well-understood physical laws preventing those things from ever being possible, especially in the short-term. Biotech advancement into life-elongation isn't one of those things. There is no fundamental reason that death is inevitable, except for the end of the universe of course. i mean, you can imagine it, and all, and modern medicine has already significantly extended lifespans and will continue to do so, but to handwave from this to functional immortality strikes me in the same way as computer people talking about the singularity: the Nerd Rapture, for people who like the good & cool science of biology. on the other hand, maybe our dystopian future will be ruled by shriveled corpses kept alive by abominations of science. would we even be able to tell?
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Powercrazy posted:Nah, they are the new GamerGaters. They are simultaneously harassing all clinton supporters everywhere at all times, and also just a vocal minority who are pathetic poor white college virgins. They are a Big Problem, but also laughably impotent. A conundrum. Yeah pretty much. My facebook feed is full of them. everyother 10 seconds its how clinton will burn the world or that clinton cheated so bad that poor saint bernie is sad.
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Wheeee posted:a barely-existent fringe group whose presence is blown wildly out of proportion by those who wish to disregard not only the fringe but also the more popular and difficult to dismiss movement of which they are a part?
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Best Giraffe posted:i mean, you can imagine it, and all, and modern medicine has already significantly extended lifespans and will continue to do so, but to handwave from this to functional immortality strikes me in the same way as computer people talking about the singularity: the Nerd Rapture, for people who like the good & cool science of biology. Well other than us not knowing how to do it, what is there specifically that prevents us from undoing aging? I.e. is there some property of a cell that is immutable? Some specific property of the organic composition of our bodies that is impossible to observe or alter? Our greatest limitation so far is the tools we have available. But there isn't anything preventing us from creating the tools. Note I'm not saying we will discover the method of immortality tomorrow, I'm just saying there isn't anything except ignorance stopping us. This isn't the case with FTL travel or free energy. Same thing with creating a sentient AI. We can't do it today, but there isn't anything that is fundamentally impossible about it, in fact quite the opposite. Since we exist, there must be away to duplicate the process artificially. Oh and the singularity is an ill-defined concept, so it's stupid to criticize it, based on your understanding of it, since almost certainly someone else idea of a singularity isn't the same as yours. ate shit on live tv has issued a correction as of 02:12 on Apr 23, 2016 |
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Idk man I'll get back to you in a decade when I'm qualified to say anything about it but until then viva la mort, my friend.
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barring a catastrophe(s) which destroys or permanently cripples global civilization, extended lifespans far beyond the natural limit are more or less inevitable they are also more or less irrelevant right now as the best any of us will live to see is cloned organ transplants and limited gene therapy for the wealthy
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Best Giraffe posted:Everyone votes for them eventually Entropy/Death 2016: The Future's Promise, Today!
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Ork of Fiction posted:Entropy/Death 2016: The Future's Promise, Today! Finally, a real accelerationist candidate!
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