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Are there actual dealers that just give you the title and let you deal with it? I paid like $80 for a "filing fee" and then got a plate and tabs in 2 weeks and a new title in like a month mailed to me.
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This was a used car lot, that probably took the bike as part of a trade and the seller just signed the title over to nobody. Left it blank. They listed it on CL and it was going to be a cash transaction.
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There are and I would consider that practice to be moderately sketchy.
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Dog Case posted:Are there actual dealers that just give you the title and let you deal with it? I paid like $80 for a "filing fee" and then got a plate and tabs in 2 weeks and a new title in like a month mailed to me. Yes. When I bought out of state I had to handle the taxes, fees, and titling by myself as the dealership couldn't handle MN business. Almost any established dealer will handle titling within the same state (or nearby states if they do a lot of business there). My dealership was great, and basically gave me 2 stacks of paper once it was all said and done. 1 was the 'show this to the dmv' stack and the other was the 'keep for your records'. It worked out pretty well. PaintVagrant posted:This was a used car lot, that probably took the bike as part of a trade and the seller just signed the title over to nobody. Left it blank. They listed it on CL and it was going to be a cash transaction. Makes sense. If you wanted to be safe, you can always call the DMV and ask exactly what you need to be able to title a used vehicle. Some DMVs have this info online also. Get that and take it with you next time you're chasing a unicorn and you can make a more informed decision about whether or not you'll have an issue. Also, you followed your gut. If the situation felt wrong, then it's probably better to keep the $1,500 in hand.
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Fishvilla posted:
Thats what I tell myself as I sit here with no bike 
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Apr 20, 2016 22:18
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Where do you live? I have 1500.
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PaintVagrant posted:Thats what I tell myself as I sit here with no bike Minnesota DMV posted:If a vehicle is purchased through a licensed Minnesota dealer, the dealer will take care of the transfer paperwork. So yeah, that's shady.
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builds character posted:from here https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/dvs/Pages/vehicle-title-transfer.aspx I bought the motorcycle in WI and then took it to MN. The dealership wouldn't need to be licensed in MN if it wasn't located there. Fishvilla fucked around with this message at 15:07 on Apr 21, 2016 |
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Apr 20, 2016 22:44
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Chichevache posted:Where do you live? I have 1500. Your moms house
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PaintVagrant posted:Your moms house I don't know where you guys parked it. 
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Apr 20, 2016 23:05
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Chichevache posted:I don't know where you guys parked it.  
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Fishvilla posted:I bought the motorcycle in WI and then took it to MN. The dealership wouldn't need to be licensed in MN if it wasn't located there. Yes, I agree a wisconsin dealer is unlikely to be licensed in minnesota. Dealers in Minnesota have to be licensed. https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/dvs/forms-documents/Documents/Dealer-ThoseRequiredtoHaveDealerLicense.pdf I don't know what the dealer is getting out of this (probably not paying some transfer fee or something) but it's still shady.
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When I got my Hawk, it was still titled in the name of the previous-previous owner; the guy I bought it from was a shadetree dealer (had a registry number etc) and had picked it up in a raffle or auction or something, but never titled it to himself because he was only going to tune it up and flip it. It was a little weird at first, but didn't seem overly sketchy -- and when the fuel pump crapped out 20 minutes into the ride home, he came out with his truck, apologized, fixed it for free and delivered the bike the next morning. But who knows. For every story where it works out, there's at least one rear end in a top hat scammer. That's just how life is.
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Does it make any sense to purchase extended manufacturer warranty along with a new bike?
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Evil the Cat posted:Does it make any sense to purchase extended manufacturer warranty along with a new bike? Nooooooooooooope. The house always wins.
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astrollinthepork posted:Nooooooooooooope. The house always wins. Heed these words. Dealerships and warranty providers make a lot of money off of the extended warranties. builds character posted:Yes, I agree a wisconsin dealer is unlikely to be licensed in minnesota. Dealers in Minnesota have to be licensed. https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/dvs/forms-documents/Documents/Dealer-ThoseRequiredtoHaveDealerLicense.pdf I don't know what the dealer is getting out of this (probably not paying some transfer fee or something) but it's still shady. To clarify, I don't know that PaintVagrant is in MN or that he was going to a MN dealership. I was just giving an example of a situation where that title procedure would make sense/not be a scam.
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Fishvilla posted:Heed these words. Dealerships and warranty providers make a lot of money off of the extended warranties. yeah, sorry I misread that. Looks like he's in Michigan where, fwiw, the rules are the same. Michigan posted:When you buy a vehicle from a dealership, the dealer will: I agree though that the rules are totally different for buying from out of state dealers, but I'd still expect the title to be in the dealer's name rather than in the prior owner's. That's the part of all this that is the most shady. All cash transaction, no record at all that the dealer was involved. Evil the Cat posted:Does it make any sense to purchase extended manufacturer warranty along with a new bike? How much?
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Thanks for the caution gents! Pricing is $300 for initial 12mo then $100 per each additional year up to 4 total. Just in case ANYTHING EVER HAPPENS to it sir!
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Evil the Cat posted:Does it make any sense to purchase extended manufacturer warranty along with a new bike? Going against the grain, I'm thinking of buying an extended warranty once the normal one on my 690 Duke runs out, the general build quality and things that have happened thus far make it sensible to me.
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In this episode of PaintVagrant Tries to Buy a Bike: 2014 Ninja 300 SE w/ABS. Dropped once, very minor vinyl graphics damage (pretty much unnoticeable), tiny scratches on brake lever. 850 miles. Incredibly clean, looks dealership new. $3800 USD a good price? It seems it but nada values/etc are pretty bad for bikes this new.
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PaintVagrant posted:In this episode of PaintVagrant Tries to Buy a Bike: Yeah well gently caress it I bought it. Just throbbing hard right now guys.  
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Apr 22, 2016 01:24
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A good choice.
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Seay bike.
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I'd say you'll come to think twice the price you paid was a good deal. Small and light bieks are the best beiks. Enjoy!
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So I currently own a 2015 CRF250L but riding this thing at an elevation of 6,000+ft in NW Colorado the bike really doesn't do much more than 65-70mph on even ground. I commute about 60 miles a day on it when the weather permits. I have all the power mods done to it and it's not bad but I'm thinking about getting a street bike with a little more power and saving the CRF for the trails. I noticed a lot of you have Ninja 300's and was curious how they do at high elevation. The dealer in Steamboat Springs has 2 brand new 2016's on the floor. One with ABS and one without. They also have a left over 2015 CBR 300R. My worry is these 300's will still be too underpowered for where I live. One thing I really like about the Ninja is the gas tank is huge. My CRF has like a 2 gallon tank and the aftermarket tanks only add an additional gallon. Other options I have considered is the FZ-07 and FZ-09. The Triumph Street Triple R(X) but the Triumph is a bit out of my price range.
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Why not buy a used SV650 to start with?
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Dang that looks just like my 636 ninja, nice work, you'll love it!
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jdfording posted:So I currently own a 2015 CRF250L but riding this thing at an elevation of 6,000+ft in NW Colorado the bike really doesn't do much more than 65-70mph on even ground. I commute about 60 miles a day on it when the weather permits. I have all the power mods done to it and it's not bad but I'm thinking about getting a street bike with a little more power and saving the CRF for the trails. Whatever you do, I wouldn't buy a newer bike without ABS if it comes with that as an option. Also, are you set on buying new? There are barely used Ninja 300's pretty much everywhere. Even an old 250 will have more top end than your CRF, and the FI on the 300's should help with the elevation problems. Have you had your carbs adjusted at all for the altitude?
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Dutymode posted:Whatever you do, I wouldn't buy a newer bike without ABS if it comes with that as an option. Also, are you set on buying new? There are barely used Ninja 300's pretty much everywhere. The CRF250L has fuel injection.
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I've been riding a 2009 Honda Rebel 250 bike for ~3 years around San Francisco and the Bay area. I got the bike to learn on and bob around town on. Since buying this bike I've met my current gf and gotten quite a bit of experience on the bike. I've been wanting to get a new bike since the Rebel struggles up some of these steep SF hills, especially 2up with my gf on the back. However, I have avoided replacing it due to not having secure parking in the city and with street parking as my only option, I am willing to risk this small, cheaper bike. I have finally secured convenient garage parking not too far from my apartment and want to upgrade. I'd like to pay less than $10k, the main function of this bike is going to be city riding with occasional weekend excursions around the area. I'm pretty sure I like the less aggressive riding posture of a crusier than sport bike but tbh, I've never ridden in that position. However, I love the classic cruiser style well above a sport bike look. Also, I'm 5'4" and 130lbs so I want a low CoG and short seat height. I'm currently torn between the Yamaha Bolt and Kawasaki Vulcan S. I fell in love with the Bolt when it was released in 2014 but after I went to sit on it at the dealer, I didn't like the asymmetry between my knees (the stock air intake box protruded a lot further IRL than in photos) -- I think this can be solved with after market parts. I haven't seen the Vulcan in person but on spec is lighter, liquid cooled, comes with an ABS option and the free ergo fit option is very attractive. I definitely prefer the look of the Bolt a little better than the Vulcan. Looking at reviews it seems like these are the top two options in this category. I think the lack of ABS is the biggest question for the Bolt. I currently don't have ABS on the Rebel now so I'm not sure how big a factor that is with a larger bike. Opinions?
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climboutonalimb posted:I'd like to pay less than $10k Honda Grom. You're welcome.
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Chichevache posted:Honda Grom. You're welcome. A Grom on steep hills with a passenger? About that...
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climboutonalimb- you are in luck! I'm sure the rebel has been a good and fun bike for you but, any bike other than a buell blast will be a massive step up for you at this point. Clearly, you should get a 1290SD. But seriously, anything is going to be awesome. You are in a great spot. Don't get another cruiser, though. I recommend the vstrom, SV650, EX500, or Koruthaiolos' Husky Strada. You want it. 
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climboutonalimb posted:I'm pretty sure I like the less aggressive riding posture of a crusier than sport bike but tbh, I've never ridden in that position. However, I love the classic cruiser style well above a sport bike look. Have you considered our lord and saviour's personal choice, a standard? Much more comfortable than either the torture rack of a race replica sport bike or the recumbent, poorly balanced joke of a cruiser, and they're even available in retro looks for sensitive individuals who are allergic to plastic? 
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HotCanadianChick posted:Have you considered our lord and saviour's personal choice, a standard? Much more comfortable than either the torture rack of a race replica sport bike or the recumbent, poorly balanced joke of a cruiser, and they're even available in retro looks for sensitive individuals who are allergic to plastic? What is that sexy beast? 
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Looks like an XSR900 https://www.yamahamotorsports.com/sport-heritage/models/xsr900
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I'm in the super minority here, for reason's I cannot imagine, but the XSR900 has looked like a cluttered, slapped together, piece of poo poo, since it was unveiled last year. Yet, in some buell esque explainable level of desire, all ya'll immediately fawned over it. Like, I'm CERTAIN it handles awesome and runs great, but are you people blind?!
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