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Zzulu posted:The CGI just doesn't look remotely real to me, making all the destruction really boring. It's like those other disaster movies basically, it looks exactly the same but with a mothership in the sky this time. Also, the casting looks horrendous with the exception for Goldblum To me it's not that the CG doesn't look "real" in terms of being well rendered... it's just that it's so goddamn over populated with stuff that the scene itself isn't able to be processed as "real." If that makes sense. Like the brain can't reconcile it with it's actual experiences because it's so far removed from anything everyday.
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Zzulu posted:The CGI just doesn't look remotely real to me, making all the destruction really boring. It's like those other disaster movies basically, it looks exactly the same but with a mothership in the sky this time. Also, the casting looks horrendous with the exception for Goldblum These are all pretty fair criticisms. I will say that the CGI is a huge quagmire right now and their workload is enormous. Also I think everybody on Urf realizes this movie would be so much better with a huge dose of Will Smith.
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Apr 22, 2016 17:53
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Also kind of a poo poo move to cast Mireca Monroe when Mae Whitman is both working and talented. That's not a knock on Monroe, I haven't heard a bad word about her work in It Follows. It just gives the whole affair more of a plastic sheen to it.
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Apr 22, 2016 17:59
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Maika Monroe, you mean, Mireca is a different and much worse actress.
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Apr 22, 2016 18:01
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I'm sure it's because of "alien tech" or whatever but I find it a bit strange that the technology of the world in Resurgence is somehow WAY more advanced than anything we've even come close to despite it being basically present day.
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Apr 22, 2016 18:08
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Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi posted:I'm sure it's because of "alien tech" or whatever but I find it a bit strange that the technology of the world in Resurgence is somehow WAY more advanced than anything we've even come close to despite it being basically present day. Well, yeah.
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Apr 22, 2016 18:13
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I hear ya. She would have brought more to the role. Maika Monroe is fine but to be honest she just kind of blends into the background on this. Oh but she's fuckable soooo
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Apr 22, 2016 18:13
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lol actually on second watching, I realized there's a voice over right at the beginning that basically covers this
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Apr 22, 2016 18:14
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Nice to see Vivica Fox in a real movie again, though.
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Apr 22, 2016 18:15
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The world being advanced by alien tech looks like one of the more potentially interesting parts to me.
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Apr 22, 2016 18:15
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A True Jar Jar Fan posted:The world being advanced by alien tech looks like one of the more potentially interesting parts to me. Yeah, almost looks like - wow - science fiction.
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Apr 22, 2016 18:16
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I love the alien strider(s). Looks like action might get kind of tiring, I hope there's some moments of respite. Bill Pullman sounds feeble. Did he forget how to do his terrible tough guy voice?
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Apr 22, 2016 18:19
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A True Jar Jar Fan posted:The world being advanced by alien tech looks like one of the more potentially interesting parts to me. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the figher jets will transform into giant robots just to make that plot point even more obviously a reference to Robotech.
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Apr 22, 2016 18:27
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Yeah, almost looks like - wow - science fiction. tbf though part of the charm of the first one was the plucky underdog story of Earth being able to fend off super-advanced aliens using nothing but our brains and (for 1996) modern technology granted they also commandeered the area-51 alien fighter and flew it into the mother ship so maybe it's a superfluous point to make davidspackage posted:
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Apr 22, 2016 18:28
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The funniest thing about that trailer is Jeff Goldblum suddenly being some sort of defense expert when he was a satellite technician in the first movie. It's not entirely unlike how he suddenly became a dinosaur expert in The Lost World.
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Apr 22, 2016 18:31
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I always found the destruction in ID4 genuinely apocalyptic so I was disappointed in this until I saw the burning sky, which is a really good touch to harken back to the feel of the first film.
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Apr 22, 2016 18:33
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drat ID4:2 looks crazy - in a good way.
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Apr 22, 2016 18:53
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ID:R is the official acronym if it doesn't make you feel gross.
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kiimo posted:ID:R is the official acronym if it doesn't make you feel gross. where's the drat 4?
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davidspackage posted:Bill Pullman sounds feeble. Did he forget how to do his terrible tough guy voice? His character's probably been suffering from a shitload of PTSD/recurring nightmares since, you know, get was mind probed like a motherfucker in the first movie, in addition to not only losing half the country but his wife as well. I can totally buy the whole "worn out by all this bullshit" schtick.
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Scyantific posted:His character's probably been suffering from a shitload of PTSD/recurring nightmares since, you know, get was mind probed like a motherfucker in the first movie, in addition to not only losing half the country but his wife as well. I can totally buy the whole "worn out by all this bullshit" schtick. And on top of all that, he has to star in Independence Day 2.
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Apr 22, 2016 18:57
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:where's the drat 4? Fox 4-sook it.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:where's the drat 4? As someone too young to really remember Independence Day when it was in theaters, the fact that its acronym is ID4 frightens and disturbs me, so I'm in favor of this
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Apr 22, 2016 18:58
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I'm old enough to have seen ID4 in theaters and also old enough to not pretend it was ever a good movie
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Timby posted:The funniest thing about that trailer is Jeff Goldblum suddenly being some sort of defense expert when he was a satellite technician in the first movie. It's not entirely unlike how he suddenly became a dinosaur expert in The Lost World. They say in the movie though that he's some kind of genius but wanted to work as a satellite tech because he liked it. There is a distinct lack of this guy  in the trailer which has me a little worried, but otherwise this looks like it could be fun despite all odds. Also how the hell is Brent Spiner's character still alive?
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Pops Mgee posted:Also how the hell is Brent Spiner's character still alive? Alien tech, I'm calling it.
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the best part of ID4 was easily James Rebhorn, RIP
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Apr 22, 2016 19:04
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:the best part of ID4 was easily Robert Loggia, RIP
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not gonna lie I do not even remember Robert Loggia in that movie
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:not gonna lie I do not even remember Robert Loggia in that movie He was the Secretary of Defense, I think. I just remember him going up to Bill Pullman as he was climbing into the fighter jet and growling, "Mr. President, I'd sure like to know what the hell you are doing," or something along those lines. Independence Day was the last movie I watched with my Mom before she moved back to Boise this month. This kind of saddens me.
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Oh poo poo --- why do we call it ID4? July 4th...? Right? E: quote:The abbreviation "ID4" was invented due to legal problems with the title "Independence Day". Before 20th Century Fox reached a deal with Warner Bros. for the rights to the title, they suggested the film be called "Invasion" or "Sky on Fire" among many other titles. I just remember seeing it everywhere.
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kiimo posted:Also I think everybody on Urf realizes this movie would be so much better with a huge dose of Will Smith. Still betting on Will Smith's character being sent back in time in that explosion. Back to 1996 during the first invasion. [edit] I'm speculating this because in the first film, after Pullman got mindfucked by the alien in Area 51, he said their entire civilization travelled in that mothership, going from planet to planet, taking all their resources, an moving on. Dem aliens have to have some time travel tech. teagone fucked around with this message at 19:21 on Apr 22, 2016 |
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:not gonna lie I do not even remember Robert Loggia in that movie At the end he says  "Get on the wire. Tell them how to bring those sons of bitches down" Which is really all you need.
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Pops Mgee posted:At the end he says o yeah that was cool. I also do genuinely kinda love the bit where James Rebhorn has to admit Area 51 is real. so yeah all the good parts of that movie are dead.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:I also do genuinely kinda love the bit where James Rebhorn has to admit Area 51 is real. Eh, that's been supplanted by the similar scene in Zero Dark Thirty. Uncle Boogeyman posted:so yeah all the good parts of that movie are dead. The effects remain stunning.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:
That initial attack sequence is perfectly paced, perfectly scored, perfectly edited and flat-out horrifying.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:The effects remain stunning. some of them. the miniature work is really cool, but that wall-o'-fire looks like dogshit now HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Eh, that's been supplanted by the similar scene in Zero Dark Thirty. no Rebhorn, no sale.
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The CGI bothers me because it just looks like everything except the actors is CGI; all the cities, alien ships, explosions and there is nothing to really hold on to. I went back and watched the scene from the original when the ships arrive and they look more real than anything in this. The shot by the Brooklyn bridge (?) where the giant ship appears from the clouds/fire looks terrifying and "physically real" whereas everything in the new film is just one indistinguishable CGI-model after another and there's so loving much of it. It looks so stuffed with effects that I get a sense of bloatedness, like seeing so much poo poo exhausts me. And it's not just this film, of course this is the norm in Hollywood these days but I just find it weird and kind of sad that all of the destruction scenes from the first movie will age much better than anything in this. Storywise it looks to be appropriately insane and Goldblum is always entertaining so no problems there.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:some of them. the miniature work is really cool, but that wall-o'-fire looks like dogshit now Yeah the wall of fire is iffy. Does the job fine though. Timby posted:That initial attack sequence is perfectly paced, perfectly scored, perfectly edited and flat-out horrifying. When the "July 4th" tag comes up, it's chilling. Top notch! HUNDU THE BEAST GOD fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Apr 22, 2016 |
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