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Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART
$1.00 reverse side: A slave being freed
$5.00 reverse side: The state of Massachusetts
$10.00 reverse side: A Masonic temple burning down
$20.00 reverse side: Electors voting unanimously for the next president
$50.00 reverse side: Hard cider
$100.00 reverse side: An American expedition making peaceful first contact with the prosperous society living in the Hollow Earth.

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Ibogaine posted:

Is the capital called Adams or Adamstown? And is the capitol called "His Rotundity"?

“Adamsburg” and “Adamsville” are existing towns.

“Adamstown” is the settlement on Pitcairn, which in our timeline is where the slavers have been annexed to.

SpRahl
Apr 22, 2008
But what does the coat of arms of the Adams dynasty look like?
Or did the election of Jay prevent the creation of a constitutional monarchy?

Edit:

Pakled posted:

$1.00 reverse side: A slave being freed
$5.00 reverse side: The state of Massachusetts
$10.00 reverse side: A Masonic temple burning down
$20.00 reverse side: Electors voting unanimously for the next president
$50.00 reverse side: Hard cider
$100.00 reverse side: An American expedition making peaceful first contact with the prosperous society living in the Hollow Earth.

"In God we Trust" has been replaced by "gently caress The South"

SpRahl has issued a correction as of 00:08 on Apr 22, 2016

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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$1000 bill: William Tecumseh Sherman, with Atlanta in flames on the back.

Corek
May 11, 2013

by R. Guyovich
We didn't even vote for Harrison. We have no rights to use Hard Cider.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

What would be the capitol of the country in this alternate universe? Washington definitely wouldn't shell out his own personal swampland for these ingrates who dragged him out of retirement to give legitimacy to their new constitution only to not vote for him at all and send him back on his merry way.

Nckdictator
Sep 8, 2006
Just..someone

SpRahl posted:

But what does the coat of arms of the Adams dynasty look like?
Or did the election of Jay prevent the creation of a constitutional monarchy?

Take your pick

http://www.americanheraldry.org/pages/index.php?n=president.adams



Otherkinsey Scale
Jul 17, 2012

Just a little bit of sunshine!

SlothfulCobra posted:

What would be the capitol of the country in this alternate universe? Washington definitely wouldn't shell out his own personal swampland for these ingrates who dragged him out of retirement to give legitimacy to their new constitution only to not vote for him at all and send him back on his merry way.

When you put it like that, it seems more likely he'd throw them on the Potomac.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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SlothfulCobra posted:

What would be the capitol of the country in this alternate universe? Washington definitely wouldn't shell out his own personal swampland for these ingrates who dragged him out of retirement to give legitimacy to their new constitution only to not vote for him at all and send him back on his merry way.

Executive capital: Peacefield

Legislative capital: Philadelphia

Judicial capital: New York

Corek
May 11, 2013

by R. Guyovich
Quincy being the US Capital :psyduck:

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

In this timeline, most of New England has been absorbed into the His Elective Majesty's imperial personal estate, allowing the President to traverse across the country as he wishes. The Congress, a rump and largely irrelevant social club, has been allowed to persist in Quincy, albeit under the President's watchful eye.

Meanwhile, the federal government is kept running thanks to increasingly large donatives to the military and large public celebrations. By keeping the military happy and the public fat, the President is able to push through increasingly anachronistic reforms and support strange causes, like expeditions to the center of the Earth.

Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

Well, I cast my vote. It was tough.

E: I already regret it

Quorum
Sep 24, 2014

REMIND ME AGAIN HOW THE LITTLE HORSE-SHAPED ONES MOVE?

SlothfulCobra posted:

What would be the capitol of the country in this alternate universe? Washington definitely wouldn't shell out his own personal swampland for these ingrates who dragged him out of retirement to give legitimacy to their new constitution only to not vote for him at all and send him back on his merry way.

Given that the South has been shoved to the curb repeatedly and in increasingly creative ways, it's definitely not at Washington DC, as that was intended as a compromise between northeastern and southern states (Virginia in particular, and Washington himself in particular-particular). Probably Philadelphia in all honesty.

Ibogaine
Aug 11, 2015
Oh, if only the gooniverse was real! I'd immediately and permanently move to the paradise that is called the United States of America Adams!

lambeth
Aug 31, 2009
I learned recently that there are Franklin Pierece and John Quincy Adams gold dollars. I get JQA, but I have no idea why you'd pick Pierce.

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


lambeth posted:

I learned recently that there are Franklin Pierece and John Quincy Adams gold dollars. I get JQA, but I have no idea why you'd pick Pierce.

Because they did them for all the dead presidents but the world will end once Reagan is on money and the wealth finally starts trickling down

point of return
Aug 13, 2011

by exmarx
i like that grover cleveland is on there twice

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.
Grover Cleveland getting himself counted twice in all things was a great scam. More presidents should do that.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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Grover Cleveland won the popular vote in three consecutive elections. He deserves to be counted twice.

Corek
May 11, 2013

by R. Guyovich
He'll win in zero elections here.

Ibogaine
Aug 11, 2015
Before we start the next election, can we make sure that even if Tilden wins, the candidate with the second most votes will be president?

tatankatonk
Nov 4, 2011

Pitching is the art of instilling fear.
Black

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

The next election will be delayed for a bit while I resolve some personal matters, but I did want to draw attention to an article that the New Yorker published today on the Adams Family and slavery: So Palpable a Stain. It is a short piece and well-worth the read for those interested in the complexities of slavery for early Americans. Virtually everyone, including John Quincy Adams, found themselves embedded in the practice.

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

Nebakenezzer has issued a correction as of 16:20 on Apr 27, 2016

QuoProQuid
Jan 12, 2012

Tr*ckin' and F*ckin' all the way to tha
T O P

Easily the worst thing that Harry Truman ever did.

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
The Adams Family started
When Uncle Fester farted
They all came out retarded
The Adams Family

Jump King
Aug 10, 2011

Cross posting from the historical facts thread.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

MMM Whatchya Say posted:

Cross posting from the historical facts thread.

it is mildly humorous that it took until 1863 to find a guy that could grasp such a basic concept

Empress Theonora
Feb 19, 2001

She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.

Raskolnikov38 posted:

it is mildly humorous that it took until 1863 to find a guy that could grasp such a basic concept

As much as I feel like that joke sells Grant short, we can point McClellan as a general whose failure was in large part due to his astonishing failure to realize that he, in fact, had more guys than the other side.

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

i think i heard once that the main reason mcclellan was so popular with his troops was because he basically tried as hard as he could to avoid having any of them killed. which is fair enough

not just having more guys but grant was also the first guy to lose a battle and be like 'ok ill just dig in right here in southern virginia, gently caress you' instead of running away. to simplify a bit

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

oystertoadfish posted:

i think i heard once that the main reason mcclellan was so popular with his troops was because he basically tried as hard as he could to avoid having any of them killed. which is fair enough

not just having more guys but grant was also the first guy to lose a battle and be like 'ok ill just dig in right here in southern virginia at Shiloh, gently caress you' instead of running away. to simplify a bit

oystertoadfish
Jun 17, 2003

oh yeah he did win the strategically important theater before he went to virginia

i can fall into that 'nothing important happened outside of virginia, and maryland and pennsylvania those two times' school of narrative-driven history sometimes bless my heart

Nckdictator
Sep 8, 2006
Just..someone
I have to admit I have a semi soft-spot for McCellen. He should have never been in a combat position but...

quote:

"It makes my heart bleed to see the poor, shattered remnants of my noble Army of the Potomac, poor fellows! and to see how they love me even now. I hear them calling out to me as I ride among them, " George, don't leave us again! " " They sha'n't take you away from us again," etc., etc.

I can hardly restrain myself when I see how fearfully they are reduced in numbers, and realize how many of them lie unburied on the field of battle, where their lives were uselessly sacrificed. It is the most terrible trial I ever experienced. Truly, God is trying me in the fire. "

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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quote:

You people of the South don't know what you are doing. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about. War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it … Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them? The North can make a steam engine, locomotive, or railway car; hardly a yard of cloth or pair of shoes can you make. You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth — right at your doors. You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with. At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, shut out from the markets of Europe as you will be, your cause will begin to wane. If your people will but stop and think, they must see in the end that you will surely fail.

—William T. Sherman, December 24, 1860

SpRahl
Apr 22, 2008
McClellan also had a bad habit of believing the rebel army was always ten times bigger than his own. Some of the numbers he threw around for Confederate troop strengths were mind boggling.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

SpRahl posted:

McClellan also had a bad habit of believing the rebel army was always ten times bigger than his own. Some of the numbers he threw around for Confederate troop strengths were mind boggling.

to be ever so slightly fair to him, pinkerton (yes that pinkerton) also deserves some of the blame with his shitass spy network

Nckdictator
Sep 8, 2006
Just..someone
Related to earlier in the thread but apparently in the 1950's and '60's Old Crow bourbon did a ad series featuring Henry Clay. This seems a...rather bizarre ad choice.





Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead
When your company's sainted founder is literally named James Crow, you have to choose between running away from that awkward association or donning it wholeheartedly like a pointy white hat.

german porn enthusiast
Dec 29, 2015

by exmarx
I'm going to be very conflicted when we get to Bryan. On the one hand, his brand of populism is amazing. on the other hand, he gave us the Scopes trial.

Nevermind. I'm definitely voting for Notorious WJB

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

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TR was the greatest president the U.S. ever had (at least in timelines where Frémont didn’t win in 1856).

WJB can suck on hard cider.

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