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BBJoey posted:the stellaris thread is real bad Stellaris is giving me serious Civ 5 vibes and anybody who pre-orders that poo poo is a goddamn mook
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I'm going to pre-order Stellaris
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Apr 22, 2016 14:18
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In Training posted:I'm kinda tempted to buy the 7 DLCs I don't have but I would probably be insanely overwhelmed by all the new options. It took me like 20 minutes last night to figure out what a province was vs a state and I'm still not sure why certain areas are provinces by default and I have core them again. Although coring went way faster than I remember but that could be a Muslim thing. every province is now grouped together with a small, fixed set of other provinces - a 'state'. you can fully incorporate a small number of states into your country - whatever states start out in your country generally start up included in this way. if a state isn't included in this way, it's a "territory", and you can only get "territorial cores" on provinces in that state, which cost half as much but mean autonomy can never drop below 75%. when you turn a territorial state into a full state, you can instantly transform your territorial cores into normal cores at a 50% discount. however, you have to pay maintenance on full states (scaling linearly with development), which in practice seems to make everyone really poor this patch. i suspect the confusing thing in yr post is that some provinces that you conquer will start out as part of territorial states, and some will be part of full states - if you conquer a province that belongs to a state you've already included as a full state in your country, you don't have to first get a territorial core on it and then upgrade it, you just go straight to the full core. there's a "states" mapmode that helps with all this, somewhat. i was gonna take some screenshots to help but eu4 is currently locking up on launch ):
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Apr 22, 2016 18:30
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PleasingFungus posted:every province is now grouped together with a small, fixed set of other provinces - a 'state'. you can fully incorporate a small number of states into your country - whatever states start out in your country generally start up included in this way. if a state isn't included in this way, it's a "territory", and you can only get "territorial cores" on provinces in that state, which cost half as much but mean autonomy can never drop below 75%. when you turn a territorial state into a full state, you can instantly transform your territorial cores into normal cores at a 50% discount. however, you have to pay maintenance on full states (scaling linearly with development), which in practice seems to make everyone really poor this patch. 
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Apr 22, 2016 19:05
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yeah its pretty fukken retarded
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Apr 22, 2016 19:18
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This is our punishment for asking for things to do during peace
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Apr 22, 2016 19:39
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it sounds worse than it is, mostly because "states" (groups of provinces), "states" (states that aren't territories) and "estates" all exist. though i guess you don't have cossacks so you don't have to worry about that last one
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Apr 22, 2016 19:59
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Kersch posted:This is our punishment for asking for things to do during peace I like the calmness of peace time, just watching your coffers grow as the years tick by in the blink of an eye
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Apr 22, 2016 20:10
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Yolomancer posted:Stellaris is giving me serious Civ 5 vibes and anybody who pre-orders that poo poo is a goddamn mook I don't care
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Apr 22, 2016 21:27
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In Training posted:I like the calmness of peace time, just watching your coffers grow as the years tick by in the blink of an eye i'm always on the verge of financial crisis and this is after realizing trade dispute cbs aren't useless like the repay debt ones in v2
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Apr 22, 2016 21:27
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PleasingFungus posted:every province is now grouped together with a small, fixed set of other provinces - a 'state'. you can fully incorporate a small number of states into your country - whatever states start out in your country generally start up included in this way. if a state isn't included in this way, it's a "territory", and you can only get "territorial cores" on provinces in that state, which cost half as much but mean autonomy can never drop below 75%. when you turn a territorial state into a full state, you can instantly transform your territorial cores into normal cores at a 50% discount. however, you have to pay maintenance on full states (scaling linearly with development), which in practice seems to make everyone really poor this patch. Don't worry though guys the system where is your capital connected to the province? Y/N? Was simply too easy to understand to live I guess. IMO they should have made it so any country smaller than 150 development blocking you from your territory didn't count or something so vassal blocking would be extremely impractical.
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Apr 22, 2016 21:28
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I finally finished watching the full 13 episodes of the Stellaris gameplay stream. I did skip through a lot of it but what was there seems like an interesting combo of Paradox mapgame and 4x and I look forward to playing it
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Apr 22, 2016 21:32
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Yolomancer posted:Stellaris is giving me serious Civ 5 vibes and anybody who pre-orders that poo poo is a goddamn mook It's weird that you can post something so wrong.
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Apr 22, 2016 21:45
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Larry Parrish posted:Don't worry though guys the system where is your capital connected to the province? Y/N? Was simply too easy to understand to live I guess. that isn't how that system worked either, lol GreyPowerVan posted:It's weird that you can post something so wrong. 
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Apr 22, 2016 22:08
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PleasingFungus posted:that isn't how that system worked either, lol I met him in DC 5 years ago, he is All Right with me.
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Apr 22, 2016 22:25
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Jackie D posted:I'm going to pre-order Stellaris did you ever actually play the game your av is from  fuckin rulers of nations
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Apr 22, 2016 22:29
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also holy poo poo it's amazing how much worse hoi3 is than hoi2 was
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Apr 22, 2016 22:29
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PleasingFungus posted:that isn't how that system worked either, lol Well, yeah, connected to capital or within 300? colonial range. And you can only core exclaves if a vassal controls the blocking territory or it's within your colonial range. They should have just nerfed the insanely cheap cores magically becoming 0% autonomy once you annex a vassal, instead of adding this retarded system. The part where you do a cheap, lovely core and then core it again is cool but the rest of it is like, why are we bothering to define states or not.
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Apr 22, 2016 22:42
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stellris looks cool butt he games threads a dumpster fire. shockng
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Apr 22, 2016 23:33
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I have +200 relationship with the Mamluks and have been allied for 10+ years but they won't join any of my wars because they're too far but suddenly they're allies to Tlemcen and will join them in war at the drop of a hat. The gently caress.
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Apr 22, 2016 23:48
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In Training posted:I have +200 relationship with the Mamluks and have been allied for 10+ years but they won't join any of my wars because they're too far but suddenly they're allies to Tlemcen and will join them in war at the drop of a hat. The gently caress. You got played.
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Apr 23, 2016 00:01
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In Training posted:I have +200 relationship with the Mamluks and have been allied for 10+ years but they won't join any of my wars because they're too far but suddenly they're allies to Tlemcen and will join them in war at the drop of a hat. The gently caress. Diplomacy rules don't apply to the AI because reasons
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Apr 23, 2016 00:07
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In Training posted:I have +200 relationship with the Mamluks and have been allied for 10+ years but they won't join any of my wars because they're too far but suddenly they're allies to Tlemcen and will join them in war at the drop of a hat. The gently caress. defensive or offensive wars?
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Apr 23, 2016 01:03
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PleasingFungus posted:defensive or offensive wars? defensive. So I changed tack and have done nothing but insult Tlemcen and piss them off and make them bite first. Sitting at -200 with border tension , it's a matter of time...
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Apr 23, 2016 01:06
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In Training posted:defensive. So I changed tack and have done nothing but insult Tlemcen and piss them off and make them bite first. Sitting at -200 with border tension , it's a matter of time... yeah the ai has a huge bonus to accepting defensive calls to arms, you can see it in the war dec window. they'll do the same for you, unless they're totally buried under debt & war exhaustion. i wouldn't count on tlemclen declaring war on you, anyway. pro tech: get into another war alongside the mamluks, and then declare on tlemclen - they can't be at war with you at the same time they're at war with someone else. alternately, declare war on one of tlemclen's allies (and don't mark tlemclen as a primary war partner) - you can separate peace tlemclen out and annul their treaties with the mamluks, and then start another war with them as soon as the truce elapses.
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Apr 23, 2016 02:38
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Well, rather, they can't be at war with one of their current war allies. Make sure you're the war leader so you can artificially drag it on long enough to beat Tlemcen... The AI has a nasty habit of peacing out, accepting a late defensive call, and then ripping in to your unguarded flank
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Larry Parrish posted:Well, rather, they can't be at war with one of their current war allies. Make sure you're the war leader so you can artificially drag it on long enough to beat Tlemcen... The AI has a nasty habit of peacing out, accepting a late defensive call, and then ripping in to your unguarded flank The AI. Interesting name for a man LMFAO
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Apr 23, 2016 02:52
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In Training posted:The AI. Interesting name for a man LMFAO Lmfao.
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Apr 23, 2016 02:57
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I'm gonna get a mouse and see how well my laptop can run eu4...let's do this, mapbros.
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Apr 23, 2016 02:58
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Knuc U Kinte posted:I'm gonna get a mouse and see how well my laptop can run eu4...let's do this, mapbros. its still epic. i have 16 dollars in my steam wallet from refunding stardew valley. whats the best dlc
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Apr 23, 2016 03:01
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In Training posted:its still epic. i have 16 dollars in my steam wallet from refunding stardew valley. whats the best dlc Art of war was the best last time I played.
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Knuc U Kinte posted:I'm gonna get a mouse and see how well my laptop can run eu4...let's do this, mapbros. theres some flat map no water mods to boost performance for you though they disable ironman if you use em. i dont kno if theyv been kept up to date though
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Apr 23, 2016 03:03
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corn in the bible posted:theres some flat map no water mods to boost performance for you though they disable ironman if you use em I did some low texture modding so i could play CKII in my college classes on a lovely laptop
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Apr 23, 2016 03:04
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corn in the bible posted:theres some flat map no water mods to boost performance for you though they disable ironman if you use em. i dont kno if theyv been kept up to date though I'm an Ironman only gamer so this is not an option.
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Apr 23, 2016 03:12
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In Training posted:The AI. Interesting name for a man LMFAO Lmfao.
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Apr 23, 2016 04:21
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i believe in stellaris however i have never read the games thread
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Apr 23, 2016 05:10
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DICKHEAD posted:i believe in stellaris however i have never read the games thread The dev diaries look promising, the people in Games talking about it make me very afraid. Same with HoI.
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Apr 23, 2016 05:15
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games doesn't really care about hoi4 all that much which gives me hope
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Stairmaster posted:games doesn't really care about hoi4 all that much which gives me hope Lol
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