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I'm not saying that an evolving OP/ED isn't cool, I'm saying that right now it feels like a few things are missing in the OP. The ED works well enough because the camera moves smoothly through some scenery and we know more characters will pop in later; it doesn't feel lacking. The OP, meanwhile, has a bit of awkwardness to it I wasn't expecting after the 4 phenomenal OPs which came before it. I'll bet the OP lengthens out to the standard 1:30 and will evolve into a slicker form soon enough, though.Okuyasu Nijimura posted:It's something specific to koichi, that's all I'll say. They weren't trying to obscure the fact that he gets one. Vague spoiler: I realize that Koichi's stand may have been part of the inspiration to have the OP evolve in the first place, but they still could've found a solution besides having him pose next to nothing, in the context of others posing next to their stands. Moltrey posted:The pause after Okuyasu kicks the can is a lead in to the three beats that are synched to the zoom in to Josuke, it's a stylish transition I don't care if they synced it with the music, it was a virtually still image that stayed on the screen long enough to give time to a whole other character (8 beats). It's a placeholder.
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Apr 23, 2016 03:40
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"Hey Koichi, let's go home." "Sure."
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guts and bolts posted:Today's episode was neat. Okuyasu being a member of the main crew was obvious from the OP, so it's hard to feel any tension about his welfare, but that doesn't really seem like the point of his scenes anyway - less about if he joins Team Josuke and more why, which is fine and good. His self-deprecation strikes me as endearing and kinda sad - he actively says things about how unintelligent he is, and while that is so far more or less true, his solution to the trap was useful! Older brothers should support their younger brothers. Yeah, I feel like him saying things like "I'm not smart" are self-deprecating remarks he began telling himself after Keicho's abusive comments.
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Weird specifics you say? Calluses my friend, calluses is all I'll say. I don't get this. Is this a reference to my tendency to type mad  about poo poo no one reads, or a reference to the 1998 classic The Faculty, which I (creepily enough) just got finished watching?Hobgoblin2099 posted:Yeah, I feel like him saying things like "I'm not smart" are self-deprecating remarks he began telling himself after Keicho's abusive comments. Yeah, it reads like he internalized it as a fact because of his brother, who is abusive and sucks.  Okuyasu even tells Josuke he won't help against Keicho, despite the fact that Keicho has treated him in truly horrific fashion, because he must think it's normal or okay for Keicho to literally try to kill him for being a waste; I feel bad for Okuyasu and I want him to succeed a lot in this part, now. I Am Rooting For Okuyasu™IronicDongz posted:I can't believe Koichi if loving dead This was the most shocking thing, to me, like I predicted he'd survive and get a Stand even, but here we are, episode 4 in the books and he's definitely, unequivocally dead Seems especially weird since he's in the OP a couple times, what a good fakeout
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Kaasen posted:I'm not saying that an evolving OP/ED isn't cool, I'm saying that right now it feels like a few things are missing in the OP. The ED works well enough because the camera moves smoothly through some scenery and we know more characters will pop in later; it doesn't feel lacking. The OP, meanwhile, has a bit of awkwardness to it I wasn't expecting after the 4 phenomenal OPs which came before it. I'll bet the OP lengthens out to the standard 1:30 and will evolve into a slicker form soon enough, though. Yeah but it's also funny. Koichi is kind of a goofy guy who isn't very sure of himself hence his stand's initial form and gradual evolution as he grows as a person and that intro just emphasizes it, so it works regardless.
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The only things this OP really "spoils" are a few characters introduced fairly early on, but they're basically just character designs completely out of context for people who don't know yet (which... is kind of lazy to be honest), and Koichi very obviously getting a stand and Okuyasu very obviously joining the duwang gang, but both weren't really things that needed hiding. They happen so early in the grand scheme of things. Plus like people have said it doesn't so much matter that you know IF they do these things, but HOW. Battle Tendency's OP was way worse about it, specifically with the Caesar thing. That was just weirdly blatant, when nearly every other reference in the CG intros felt like a hidden little easter egg for people who dug around. Like when Season 1 was airing I really knew very little about JoJo outside of "Part 3 has Jotaro and Dio" because yknow. Internet. Za Warudo and all that. But when it got to BT I was like "oh who's this cool blonde guy with the bubbles oh I guess he's dying cool thanks i guess?"
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I like how the Arrow either gives you a Stand, or kills people who can't handle one (like, say, Holly or young Josuke for example). So Koichi is hit and clearly doesn't have what it takes so, welp he's gonna die. But then Josuke heals him, so he is gonna live. So uhhh.... poo poo, what now? So his spirit encases his Stand in an egg, ready to hatch when he is capable of handling his new psychic powers. It's an incredible train of logic, I love it.
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Just watched the new episode. Arrrrgh whaaaaaaat it's a 3 parter, the Nijimura Brothers!? Episode was wonderful, of course, and I'm glad they're not rushing, but I'm watching this with people who haven't read the manga and knowing that the Nijimura Bros' mini arc is so well done, it's just painful to be drawn out so. Having discovered the series in late 2015, we would watch 2-3 episodes of JoJo a night up until this season, I'm only now recognizing how spoiled we were.
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Rohan Kishibe posted:I like how the Arrow either gives you a Stand, or kills people who can't handle one (like, say, Holly or young Josuke for example). So Koichi is hit and clearly doesn't have what it takes so, welp he's gonna die. But then Josuke heals him, so he is gonna live. So uhhh.... poo poo, what now? So his spirit encases his Stand in an egg, ready to hatch when he is capable of handling his new psychic powers. It's an incredible train of logic, I love it. Is that an official explanation? Or fan theory? I assumed that he would have been fine had he not been shot right in the throat...
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Rohan Kishibe posted:I like how the Arrow either gives you a Stand, or kills people who can't handle one (like, say, Holly or young Josuke for example). So Koichi is hit and clearly doesn't have what it takes so, welp he's gonna die. But then Josuke heals him, so he is gonna live. So uhhh.... poo poo, what now? So his spirit encases his Stand in an egg, ready to hatch when he is capable of handling his new psychic powers. It's an incredible train of logic, I love it. Josuke basically cheated the universe into giving Koichi a stand.
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Angelo was shot in the mouth and was perfectly fine once Keicho took the arrow out, while Koichi was inches from death. Wouldn't getting hit with an arrow like that kill you pretty much instantly? I'd say the fact that he didn't die immediately shows he was capable of getting a stand, but wasn't quite ready for it.
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Momomo posted:Angelo was shot in the mouth and was perfectly fine once Keicho took the arrow out, while Koichi was inches from death. Wouldn't getting hit with an arrow like that kill you pretty much instantly? I'd say the fact that he didn't shows he was capable of getting a stand, but wasn't quite ready for it. Angelo's stand messes with liquids and he could presumably stop his own bleeding with it or something. Koichi's stand is breakfast.
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jivjov posted:Is that an official explanation? Or fan theory? I don't know if Araki Said it but Keicho's apparently done this a few times. He seemed pretty sure the arrow didn't work.
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I for one am glad Koichi lives because, spoiler, his stand ability is one of my favorites in all of
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Yeah, KoichI is not the kind of person who could manifest a Stand. If DIO took the body of Koichi's great grandfather, then Koichi would presumably be going through what Holly went through. Josuke helped Koichi game the system but the system just spat out an egg in response. Still, alive with an egg is better than dead with no egg at all.
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jivjov posted:Is that an official explanation? Or fan theory? i've said it before, probably even in this thread directly, but stands are a pretty direct manifestation of someone's mental fortitude. if someone has the ability to handle a stand, the arrow will pull it out of them and they'll be perfectly fine right away. see: angelo. the fact that koichi lay there bleeding out for most of the episode even once the arrow was pulled out was a clear sign that he was slowly dying and would have entirely bled out if josuke hadn't healed him. but since josuke DID heal him, there's really no alternative other than him having a stand. it basically gives one no matter what, the difference between people being that some will die from the exertion while others won't. hence the egg. koichi isn't exactly up to snuff when it comes to having a stand and being able to do things with it, so he's going to need to mature just a bit in some way or another before he can actually make something of it.
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Rohan Kishibe posted:I like how the Arrow either gives you a Stand, or kills people who can't handle one (like, say, Holly or young Josuke for example). So Koichi is hit and clearly doesn't have what it takes so, welp he's gonna die. But then Josuke heals him, so he is gonna live. So uhhh.... poo poo, what now? So his spirit encases his Stand in an egg, ready to hatch when he is capable of handling his new psychic powers. It's an incredible train of logic, I love it. I have to wonder if Josuke effectively changed Koichi's personality by healing him. You need a fighting spirit to have a Stand, and Koichi didn't qualify. But now he's healed and DOES have a Stand, so he has to have a fighting spirit by that logic. Already we saw him planning to take out Keicho with his egg in a life or death situation when he was cowering from some school bullies just a few episodes back.
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I bet he wouldn't have been cowering if he had had a giant invisible egg to chuck at their heads.
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Cool episode. Though I kind of wished that they renamed Bad Company to Tin Soldiers. Then again, for all I know, someone probably had that idea and it was struck down by that copyright owner. Koichi eat the egg
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I disliked Koichi coming out of the manga and rereads didn't help him, but the anime is turning him around for me finally.
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Koichi fits a certain character archetype and he is the version of that archetype that I always wish other series would have.
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This but with every instance of "Bad" replaced by "Worse".
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Lizard Wizard posted:He's already got one. yes but his egg stand could really use an egg stand
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The egg is a stand named Humpty with the inverse of Crazy D's power, it can only repair itself. Get read for JJBA part 4.5: Egg is Breakable
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it's going to take the entire part for the egg to hatch and it's going to be just the exact thing needed to take out the main antag, just a heads up
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Johnny Joestar posted:it's going to take the entire part for the egg to hatch and it's going to be just the exact thing needed to take out the main antag, just a heads up it's a gun
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Inside the egg is another, smaller egg.
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Johnny Joestar posted:it's going to take the entire part for the egg to hatch and it's going to be just the exact thing needed to take out the main antag, just a heads up The wives of the mini soldiers, wounded soldiers, and mini hippies, petitioning in Stand Congress, doing media tours, and protesting at stand colleges to get Stand Americans to get out of the quagmire that is Jouske-nam?
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This was a good episode because Bad Company is one of my favorite stands it looked greatJosuke Higashikata posted:I disliked Koichi coming out of the manga and rereads didn't help him, but the anime is turning him around for me finally. Nope, still don't give a drat about him
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One thing that I really liked with Okuyasu is that, as discussed earlier, he's internalized his brother's abuse to the point where he believes he's truly stupid and incompetent, but this episode shows pretty clearly that that isn't the case. In one swift move, Okuyasu cleverly used his stand to immediately repay Josuke for saving him without putting either of them in danger or bringing himself into direct conflict with his brother. He basically neatly hosed his oh-so-clever brother's plan in an instant when the clever Josuke was going to be forced to run in and die immediately.
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umalt posted:The wives of the mini soldiers, wounded soldiers, and mini hippies, petitioning in Stand Congress, doing media tours, and protesting at stand colleges to get Stand Americans to get out of the quagmire that is Jouske-nam? Behold Koichi's stand,「R I C H A R D N I X O N」
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As an aside, Stephen King wrote a story in one of his short story collections called "Battleground," where pretty much, literally, a guy is forced to fight Bad Company. It was a pretty decent short story and made me love this Stand fight even more when I read it. A made for TV version actually aired on TV. Someone put it up on Youtube (let me know if we can't link youtube videos with questionable legality and I'll remove it), if anyone is interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eY053duzS8
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Darko posted:As an aside, Stephen King wrote a story in one of his short story collections called "Battleground," where pretty much, literally, a guy is forced to fight Bad Company. It was a pretty decent short story and made me love this Stand fight even more when I read it. I think this was in one of his short story collections - maybe Night Shift - and I remember it being kinda comical. But given how prolific King is, even if part four includes a Stand that is just an evil-looking subwoofer with the power to emit JoJo sound effects as physical objects as depicted in the manga and such, there's a good chance that there's a Stephen King story that also features an evil subwoofer Or an evil typewriter Or an evil car Or an evil laundromat press (you get it)
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guts and bolts posted:I think this was in one of his short story collections - maybe Night Shift - and I remember it being kinda comical. But given how prolific King is, even if part four includes a Stand that is just an evil-looking subwoofer with the power to emit JoJo sound effects as physical objects as depicted in the manga and such, there's a good chance that there's a Stephen King story that also features an evil subwoofer I can't wait for Josuke to punch a typewriter.
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