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Lurdiak posted:For a time, Nova was probably the best book Marvel was putting out. Was Bendis still on Daredevil at that point? if not you might be right.
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Skwirl posted:Was Bendis still on Daredevil at that point? if not you might be right. God, I'm not sure. I think Brubaker had started by that point? But I kinda like Brubaker's Daredevil more than Bendis'...
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Lurdiak posted:God, I'm not sure. I think Brubaker had started by that point? But I kinda like Brubaker's Daredevil more than Bendis'... Brubaker's daredevil would have been going on at the same time
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Apr 23, 2016 06:34
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Lurdiak posted:God, I'm not sure. I think Brubaker had started by that point? But I kinda like Brubaker's Daredevil more than Bendis'... Brubaker's Daredevil is great, but but let's not be crazy.
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Apr 23, 2016 07:23
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The start of Brubakers run was better than the start of Bendis.
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Apr 23, 2016 09:39
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Veg posted:The start of Brubakers run was better than the start of Bendis. Brubaker's run was very enjoyable but I'll be damned if I can remember anything past the prison arc.
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SMP posted:Brubaker's run was very enjoyable but I'll be damned if I can remember anything past the prison arc.
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Apr 23, 2016 14:33
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Veg posted:The start of Brubakers run was better than the start of Bendis. Better than the stabbing of kingpin and then the reveal of his identity? The prison arc was good, but Bendis had a great start.
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Apr 23, 2016 18:45
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:I love Brubaker, but aside from the fantastic prison arc, his Daredevil run really wallowed in misery and suffering, even more than most of his other works. Someone once said in this thread, that his real super power was simply not taking a gun a blowing his brains it when everything was happening.
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For the most part I really like Brubaker's Daredevil, but the Mr. Fear arc was just a miserable read.
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Apr 23, 2016 21:47
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bobkatt013 posted:Better than the stabbing of kingpin and then the reveal of his identity? The prison arc was good, but Bendis had a great start. Yep. The Devil in Cell Block D is a wonderful read.
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In the last year or so I've discovered that hey, western comics can be pretty rad! I started buying trade paperbacks at the book store of series that seemed to pique my interest. Problem is, they tend to only have newer series, and while I've found some that are really awesome books to follow, I'd like to branch out into more established, or probably preferably, finished series. I don't think I'd really go for Marvel/DC mainline stuff, I really prefer more standalone stories or those that aren't reliant on a huge and sprawling continuity. So here's some elements of series I've like to hopefully base some recommendations on: Creative/conceptual worldbuilding (Saga, Low) Neat one-shots (Bodies) Horror (Wytches, Sons of the Devil) Good old light-hearted fun (Nimona, Lumberjanes, Rat Queens) And more in general, anything abstract or philosophical. Thanks!
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Envisioned posted:In the last year or so I've discovered that hey, western comics can be pretty rad! I started buying trade paperbacks at the book store of series that seemed to pique my interest. Problem is, they tend to only have newer series, and while I've found some that are really awesome books to follow, I'd like to branch out into more established, or probably preferably, finished series. I don't think I'd really go for Marvel/DC mainline stuff, I really prefer more standalone stories or those that aren't reliant on a huge and sprawling continuity. So here's some elements of series I've like to hopefully base some recommendations on: For more philosophical, check out Daytripper by Fabio Moon and Gabriel Ba. It's all one volume. Basic idea is that each chapter follows one significant event in the life of a struggling Brazilian author (not necessarily in chronological order), with the central conceit that the stories we see are written so that he dies at the end of each one instead of living into the next, and how that changes the meaning of both the individual moments and the story of his life as a whole. Really powerfully written.
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Apr 25, 2016 22:20
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You should read Vision, because everyone everywhere should read Vision. Ryan North's Squirrel Girl is probably the funniest comic currently published. The most recent Ms. Marvel (with Kamala Khan) is considered the best comic currently running for a reason. And, I mean, if you haven't you should probably read Watchmen.
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Apr 25, 2016 22:24
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Envisioned posted:Creative/conceptual worldbuilding (Saga, Low) Read Hellboy. And East of West. Snyder's Severed is pretty good if you liked Wytches.
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Apr 25, 2016 22:38
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So I'm almost completely new to comics and followed an earlier suggestion to read Hinckman's FF, Avengers, and Secret Wars run and it was incredible. Any idea of where to go from here? Also, is the story of the Richards family continued? Their kids and the foundation were great fun.
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Saki posted:So I'm almost completely new to comics and followed an earlier suggestion to read Hinckman's FF, Avengers, and Secret Wars run and it was incredible. Any idea of where to go from here? Not so far. Secret Wars was kind of the end of Reed, Sue and the kids for a while. Ben and Johnny are still around, one a member of the Guardians of the Galaxy and the other an Avenger/kinda-an-Inhuman because he's dating the queen?
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Apr 26, 2016 00:39
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Matt Fraction's FF run from a couple of years ago had She Hulk, Ant Man, and a couple of others as the Fantastic Four's b team running the foundation while the main team was away. Only ran for about 15 issues, I think, but was focused mainly on the foundation and kids, and was very funny.
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Envisioned posted:In the last year or so I've discovered that hey, western comics can be pretty rad! I started buying trade paperbacks at the book store of series that seemed to pique my interest. Problem is, they tend to only have newer series, and while I've found some that are really awesome books to follow, I'd like to branch out into more established, or probably preferably, finished series. I don't think I'd really go for Marvel/DC mainline stuff, I really prefer more standalone stories or those that aren't reliant on a huge and sprawling continuity. So here's some elements of series I've like to hopefully base some recommendations on: For horror and horror lite I'd recommend Alan Moore's run on Swamp Thing, Neil Gaiman's Sandman Man, and Hellblazer. The first two are relatively short runs with a single writer, Hellblazer is a sprawling 300 issue series with a plethora of writers, you don't really need to read it in order, but for the most horror like parts I'd recommend Jamie Delano and Garth Ennis' runs especially. Lucifer is also a great 75 issue series written by Mike Carey, it'd probably scratch your world building and philosophy itches. Casanova by Matt Fraction is a fun spy/sci-fi series. It's 4 self contained miniseries, but they need to be read in order.
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Awesome, thanks all. A lot of these look exactly like what I'm looking for.
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So I remember right at the end of hellblazer it turned into lovely torture porn, did it recover after that and if so when did it pick up again?
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After that, like the N52 replacement? The second series called Constantine: The Hellblazer has actually been pretty good. Great art from Riley Rossmo and Travel Foreman. There was a fantastic two-part guest appearance in Charles Soule's Swamp Thing.
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Washout posted:So I remember right at the end of hellblazer it turned into lovely torture porn, did it recover after that and if so when did it pick up again? I recently read Milligan's run and I do not remember it being anymore violent then any of the others.
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bobkatt013 posted:I recently read Milligan's run and I do not remember it being anymore violent then any of the others. Yeah I don't know what the torture porn could be in reference to. The most torture-y I remember Hellblazer being is Azzarello's run, which was quite a while ago. The main problem Milligan's run had was making John marry Milligan's personal barely-legal jerkoff fantasy.
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I'm looking for a good team book or run on a team book. I'd like good character work, drama, and humor. It doesn't have to be ongoing now, but I'd like something from within the last 10 years or so.
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Shitshow posted:I'm looking for a good team book or run on a team book. I'd like good character work, drama, and humor. It doesn't have to be ongoing now, but I'd like something from within the last 10 years or so. Fantastic Four by Hickman. Or Waid.
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Shitshow posted:I'm looking for a good team book or run on a team book. I'd like good character work, drama, and humor. It doesn't have to be ongoing now, but I'd like something from within the last 10 years or so. Bendis' original run of New Avengers that ran from 2004-2010 would be perfect for you, I think. It was the flagship book of the Marvel Universe at that time and ran through all the big events: House of M, Civil War, Secret Invasion, Dark Reign, Siege. Plenty of character work, drama, and humor. More recently, Superior Foes of Spider-Man by Spencer and Lieber will work for you. If you're willing to go back to the late '80s, it's hard to top Justice League International by Giffen, DeMatteis, and Maguire, and Suicide Squad by Ostrander and McDonnell.
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Shitshow posted:I'm looking for a good team book or run on a team book. I'd like good character work, drama, and humor. It doesn't have to be ongoing now, but I'd like something from within the last 10 years or so. Superior Foes of Spider-Man Fraction's Defenders Justice League Elite (best after reading Joe Kelly's run on JLA, which also applies) Gillen's Young Avengers Spurrier's X-Club I've heard Omega Men is pretty great. redbackground fucked around with this message at 14:45 on Apr 28, 2016 |
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Apr 28, 2016 14:32
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Hickman's Fantastic Four run is fantastic, but it's actually his Dark Reign/Fantastic Four/FF run and is about sixty or so issues long. It's also a bit convoluted to read and basically goes hand in hand with a reading list. Gillen's Young Avengers, on the other hand, is a 15-issue series that works completely by itself and is fantastic besides.
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Peter David's X-Factor run is my favourite team book. So many great characters you can't go wrong with it though it (pun not intended) peters out.
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Formerly Known As The Justice League and I Can't Believe It's Not The Justice League are both single-arc revisits of Justice League International by the original crew, they're how I first got into JLI and they hooked me on the spot. Funny enough to make me laugh, dramatic enough to make me care.
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Justice League Generation Lost was also one of the few good things to come out of Blackest Night. It's basically a reforming of the JLI and is far, far better than it had any right to be
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Lurdiak posted:Yeah I don't know what the torture porn could be in reference to. The most torture-y I remember Hellblazer being is Azzarello's run, which was quite a while ago. It was some cabin in the woods and a really dumb orgy scene, can't remember anything much besides that, it was a few 5 years ago or something. Sounds like it gets better afterwards though so I'll reread it and just skip that when I come to it again.
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Gaz-L posted:Justice League Generation Lost was also one of the few good things to come out of Blackest Night. It's basically a reforming of the JLI and is far, far better than it had any right to be I can't second this enough. It would be a lot more impactful if you already had a familiarity and fondness for the classic Giffen/DeMatteis JLI run from 1987-92, but Generation Lost (written by Judd Winick and co-plotted by Giffen in the beginning) was a truly pleasant surprise, even better than Formerly Known As the Justice League and I Can't Believe It's Not the Justice League. There were also some crossovers into Winick's Power Girl run at the time and the Giffen/DeMatteis Booster Gold run. I haven't enjoyed most of the New 52 material I've read, but one of my biggest disappointments is that Winick set up a really great reformed JLI in Generation Lost, with a solid line-up, a real reason to exist, and the perfect lead-in to a new ongoing series, and the New 52 undid all of that. And I'm also seconding (thirding?) Peter David's mid-'00s X-Factor run, at least volumes 0-5 (before they tied into the Secret Invasion storyline and suffered from some awful Larry Stroman art). A great mix of noir, humor, and character development for a bunch of third- and fourth-tier X-characters. It felt a lot like a TV show, and it would make a hell of an awesome show.
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I think Justice League 3000 ignores Gen Lost too, but it also ignores everything since their last superbuddies thing.
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So I've never really read DC, and because I love incredibly convoluted sagas with attendant dumb-as-poo poo reading orders I'm considering jumping in with Morrison's Superman run, which this article has a reading order for. As far as I can tell, it's: Action Comics 9 Action Comics 1-8 The Multiversity 1 JLA 1-9 JLA Secret Files & Origins 1 Action Comics 10-12 Action Comics Annual 1 Action Comics 0 Society of Super-Heroes 1 Action Comics 13-18 JLA 10-15 JLA Secret Files 2 New Year's Evil: Prometheus 1 JLA 16-17 JLA/WildC.A.T.S. 1 The Just 1 JLA: Earth 2 JLA 18-23 Thunderworld Adventures 1 DC One Million 1-2 JLA 1, 000,000 DC One Million 3-4 JLA 24-41 Pax Americana 1 JLA Classified 1-3 Final Crisis 1-3 Final Crisis: Superman Beyond 1-2 Final Crisis: Submit Final Crisis 4-6 Ultra Comics 1 Final Crisis 7 The Multiversity Guidebook 1 All-Star Superman 1-5 Mastermen 1 All-Star Superman 6-12 The Multiversity 2 Is this as dumb-fun an idea as it sounds?
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Just from a quick glance that reading order makes no sense. EDIT: Oh, they're trying to square peg/round hole Morrison's different stories as if they're all one storyline. No that's dumb. Don't do that. DC One Million, Multiversity, and All Star Superman are all things I would never recommend to someone that's not very familiar with DC. I would never recommend Final Crisis to anyone regardless. X-O fucked around with this message at 04:59 on Apr 29, 2016 |
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That seems like a chronological view of Morrison's idea of Superman if you completely ignore the multiple continuity resets within there. Which is kind of a neat idea but also stupid and nonsensical.
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Don't jump all over. JLA, All-Star (OOC), Final Crisis, Action Comics, Multiversity. Though, I think it'd be more fruitful doing a general Morry DC read. Unless you loving hate Batman. Seven Soldiers 4eva. Hell, reading Animal Man will help you appreciate Superman Beyond. e: How does JLA Classified (basically a Seven Soldiers lead-in) come after Pax Americana? Someone's goofin' with ya. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Apr 29, 2016 |
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That reading order makes sense if you've just dropped a bunch of singles and decide to read the first thing you pick up.
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