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guys you can stop being so negative because Batman "v" Superman is the #3 DC movie of all time! It beat out: 4. The rear end Pile, Man of Steel 5. A Batman movie released 27 years ago 6. A Batman movie released 11 years ago 7. A Superman movie released 10 years ago which was so bad they rebooted the franchise to release The rear end Pile, Man of Steel, which made a whopping 25% more, to substantially poorer reviews 8. A Batman movie released 21 years ago 9. Dumb Gay Batman 1 10. A Superman movie released 38 years ago 11. Deadpool punchline feat. Ryan Reynolds 12. A Superman movie released 35 years ago 13. Zack Snyder Rapes: Watchmen 14. Dumb Gay Batman 2 15. sssh bruce willis is napping 
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Tezzor posted:guys you can stop being so negative because Batman "v" Superman is the #3 DC movie of all time! It beat out: I'm putting a blanket over Bruce because I don't want him to get cold 
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Apr 22, 2016 22:50
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Have the live-action versions of Batman become somewhat 'less' over the years? Adam West Batman sort of did the least amount of stuff, but at the same time seems like the version that is most justice seeking, most intelligent, most deductive, and most skillful fighter* (*We don't really get to see it, but let's just assume.) by the nature of the universe he lives in. Batman in the Burton/Shumacher eras seem to follow suit a bit. As the series goes on, he becomes less and less a detective and solver of crimes. Nolan Batman, on the other hand, seems to remove a lot of this. Batman/Bruce isn't a genius, he needs Lucius to invent and get stuff for him. He's not into the mind of the criminal set despite his own experiences in the underworld as he needs Alfred to find him mercenaries and help set up production, he's not building his gear in house as much as he's outsourcing to China to make parts, a sort of poo poo detective. Then in BvS: Bruce gets caught sneaking around, he gets his secrets found out, it takes him apparently a long time to figure out a search that a boat is called White Portuguese, he's duped by Luthor, he's hopeless ineffectual against Superman entirely until the final act, not very stealthy except when hiding on walls. On the upside, they've seemingly made him pretty smart enough to build killing weapons in his basement.
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Apr 22, 2016 23:37
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JediTalentAgent posted:Then in BvS: Bruce gets caught sneaking around, he gets his secrets found out, it takes him apparently a long time to figure out a search that a boat is called White Portuguese, he's duped by Luthor, he's hopeless ineffectual against Superman entirely until the final act, not very stealthy except when hiding on walls. On the upside, they've seemingly made him pretty smart enough to build killing weapons in his basement. Reminder that Kevin Smith and CineD said this was the smartest and most detective-y Batman ever because he plugged a USB drive into a computer which is what Lex wanted him to do.
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Apr 22, 2016 23:51
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Batman would never plug an untrusted usb device into a computer that wasn't airgapped! He studied IT security under Ra's al Goon
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Apr 22, 2016 23:56
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The next iteration of Batman on film will be Bruce hiring an army of teenagers to be Batman for him because he's too lazy to actually get vengeance on his own. He did his weekend tour of duty as Batman and he's retired at 24 from it. But Gotham needs a Batman and his parents need avenged, so time to throw another kid out there in a costume to fight lunatics at night.
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Apr 23, 2016 00:04
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Reminder that Kevin Smith and CineD said this was the smartest and most detective-y Batman ever because he plugged a USB drive into a computer which is what Lex wanted him to do. lol, did he find it in the parking lot labeled 'lex's passwords'?
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Apr 23, 2016 00:04
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For a evil supergenius Lex had pretty bad IT physical security.
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Apr 23, 2016 00:46
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Apr 23, 2016 04:01
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Can you imagine being so invested in a lovely movie you have to waste time sabotaging rival movies?
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Apr 23, 2016 05:17
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that is a lot of butthurt fanboys
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Apr 23, 2016 09:45
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:Reminder that Kevin Smith and CineD said this was the smartest and most detective-y Batman ever because he plugged a USB drive into a computer which is what Lex wanted him to do. To be fair, Batman by himself was the most tolerable thing in the movie by a mile, even if you HATED the movie that's pretty obvious It's real hard to gently caress up Batman. It takes bat nipples to do that. Tezzor posted:13. Zack Snyder Rapes: Watchmen To be fair that's one of Zack Snyder's two watchable movies. Also I think people are landing too hard on Zack Snyder. He clearly has no idea what the gently caress is going on, and DC has a mandate list that is rear end backwards, insane, and out of touch ("Let's start with the avengers and build backwards to solo movies! Genius!") but frankly the dude was hired to do a job. And he kind of did it well. Notice people aren't in here bitching the action sucked, or the movie looked ugly? It didn't. It looked good, the action was actually one of the few redeeming things. It's just that everything holding that stuff together was an absolute clusterfuck. In other words if I could search+replace Zack Snyder hate with David S Goyer hate, I'd totally do it. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 11:11 on Apr 23, 2016 |
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Apr 23, 2016 11:07
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zack snyder said they went through 100s of superman costumes and that the red shorts wouldn't work. it's worked for like a hundred years dude. i think he's just as to blame for it being poo poo as goyer or the execs.
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Apr 23, 2016 14:17
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Blazing Ownager posted:Also I think people are landing too hard on Zack Snyder. He clearly has no idea what the gently caress is going on, and DC has a mandate list that is rear end backwards, insane, and out of touch ("Let's start with the avengers and build backwards to solo movies! Genius!") but frankly the dude was hired to do a job. Actually, people have been saying that this film and Man Of Steel looks dour and drab, with the heroic scenes of Superman rescuing people looking like it's shot like a horror film. The cinematography might look competently done, but the ultimate result is still unfitting. It's like getting Roger Deakins to film your birthday party, but it now looks like Sicario, all bleached out and overlit by natural lighting, it's not going to be a memorable event. Blazing Ownager posted:In other words if I could search+replace Zack Snyder hate with David S Goyer hate, I'd totally do it. Nah, I'm firmly putting blame on both. More on Snyder because he ultimately interpreted what Goyer wrote and, I believe, had editorial control so poo poo that could have explained plot elements got edited out, but I'm sure that blatant stuff like the jar of piss was Goyer trying to be clever. And you know Goyer wanted to return to that Joker well from The Dark Knight, so he took that leftover material and used it for Lex. Groovelord Neato posted:zack snyder said they went through 100s of superman costumes and that the red shorts wouldn't work. it's worked for like a hundred years dude. i think he's just as to blame for it being poo poo as goyer or the execs. And you know what? It's realistic, too. How else is Superman going to use the bathroom? The suit has a hole or maybe some sort of fastener that's covered up by the shorts. He just drops the shorts, does his business, wipes, then up they go and up, up, and away. (Seriously, I've thought way too much about this recently, but it's been more about catsuits as the costume for the action woman and the limits of the practicality, so why Superman wears trunks over his suit is somewhat related).
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Apr 23, 2016 15:30
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in the 30's it was a visual shorthand cribbed from circus strongmen.
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Apr 23, 2016 15:33
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he said that like it was a bad thing.
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Apr 23, 2016 15:35
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Superman should be naked, like that smurf from watchmen Gods dont care about your puny clothes
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Apr 23, 2016 16:03
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Zzulu posted:Superman should be naked, like that smurf from watchmen Viewers willing to look harder will be rewarded by the additional thematic complexity and character depth conveyed by superman's frequent erections during emotionally incongruent and inappropriate moments.
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Apr 23, 2016 16:15
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some loving hardcore nerds itt dedicated to the cause you brave bastards
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Apr 23, 2016 16:16
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I never really followed comics but superman and batman were in the same city? If so why didn't they bump into each other in their solo movies?
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Apr 23, 2016 16:44
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Tony Homo posted:I never really followed comics but superman and batman were in the same city? they actually aren't. but this is not the movies only flaw, please dig deeper
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Apr 23, 2016 17:25
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Is the topic title still correct after 70+ pages? I'm not sure if this is bad or not, can someone help me out?
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Apr 23, 2016 17:27
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satanic splash-back posted:Is the topic title still correct after 70+ pages? It was directed by Zack Snyder, so yes
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Apr 23, 2016 17:31
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Sydney Bottocks posted:It was directed by Zack Snyder, so yes Thanks, friend
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Apr 23, 2016 17:36
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Blazing Ownager posted:Notice people aren't in here bitching the action sucked, or the movie looked ugly? They're not? Well let me remedy. As has been said before, Zack Snyder is probably an amazing photographer. He LOVES recreating still panels from the comics (usually achieved with slow mo), but it doesn't work for the movie. Example: the hurricane scene. Superman in a billowing cape in front of a broken sky with sunlight streaming behind him looks good as a photo. But in the movie it comes across as people dying in a flood begging for help and this alien dickhead is floating over them like "lol I bet you wish you could do this lmao". Snyder is incompetently sacrificing action or at least a comprehensive scene to basically work a photograph into the movie. The flipside of that is the actual action which absolutely, irredeemably looks like poo poo. The Batmobile chase is a completely pointless scene because Batman steals the Kryptonite in a better scene OFF CAMERA. The title fight is a 30 second mess of dust effects ending with a Looney Tunes scene where Batman spins Superman around on a rope. It looked cheesy as gently caress and really needed some calliope music to punctuate how pants-shittingly stupid it is. Then Superman punches a poorly animated cave troll until it gets nuked in a generic explosion while Roland Emmerich guest directs the scenes that cut away to military personnel talking into headsets in front of consoles describing what just happened which is the worst loving cliche in film. THEN the bad cartoon cave troll becomes more CGI and Batman turns to rubber to zip away from the cheesy electrical storm as the movie goes into full Star Wars prequels green screen and a rubber Wonder Woman lunges at the cartoon cave troll in a big cgi crater and at this point you couldn't possibly care about this poo poo story or these poo poo characters, but now to add insult to injury you realize you're watching lovely prequels George Lucas green screen action because Snyder is too much of a hack to pull off Michael loving Bay action and at least have real explosions and a real set for the cartoon fight. But Batman murdering those henchmen because Superman doesn't realize he's Superman and can save his own mom was cool (if you've literally never heard of John Wu, Yuen Woo Ping, Donnie Yen, Jackie Chan, Jet Li, or Iko Uwais). Overall 1/10. It proudly stands next to the pantheon of great DC CGI action scenes like the finale of Green Lantern and the 100% CGI Halle Berry Catwoman fight. Then I have to dock it that point because for like $900 and an afternoon of shooting the Netflix show Daredevil had a fight scene (stolen almost whole cloth from Oldboy) that managed to have far more impact and excitement in it than a half billion dollar BvS movie. And Aquaman holding his breath and poking the camera was probably the most poorly filmed professional movie scene since Cannon Films went under. What a loving embarrassment.
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Apr 23, 2016 18:08
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some of the film analysis posts on sa are not bad. Maybe you should apply that to serious films and not movies which are by their very concept dumb hollywood gunk
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Apr 23, 2016 18:18
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The jar of piss could have been a clever little joke if what's-her-face had noticed it right before the bomb went off and had started to get up or warn the room that something might be up or whatever. At the very least a man that should be in attendance left her a jar of piss and there are bailiffs about. I'm sure leaving an open container of medical waste laying around with the intention of making a threat/maybe causing someone to accidentally consume it would at least get you detained for a few minutes. I have no idea why she just stared in horror at it for what felt like ten miserable minutes.
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Apr 23, 2016 18:26
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I like to imagine Snyder spent like a whole day filming and refilming until midnight and trying to get the senator to really dig deep and get the true emotion thst scene needed of looking at a jar of piss and the other parts of the movie where the editors and actors had ideas and questions on how to make the movie good he was like whatever and put in some headphones and smoked weed
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Apr 23, 2016 18:30
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many johnnys posted:haha I've always had the impression that modern Batman was just a giant straw man argument in favor of capital punishment and a police brutality. The people of Gotham would be a thousand times safer if they had a militarized police force that gave summary executions to any nutjob they captured in a costume. Really all of the comic book universes are hosed up in a really unsettling way. The heroes keep harping on the importance of justice, but the actual systems of justice are 100% nonfunctional. Mass murderers escape on a yearly basis so our heroes have someone to heroically punch to save the helpless masses. How could anyone even pretend our traditional systems of justice and democracy are adequate in a world of shapeshifters, mind controlling devices and world threatening alien invasions? Why does anyone even go to work in these settings? You'd think in that sort of insecure environment all liberal democracies would be replaced with total war police states and half the society would be joining death cults.
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Apr 23, 2016 18:41
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Batman question: so if he sees a bunch of guys committing a crime and punches them (until they stop), then hangs them by their ankles from a lamppost, do the police just assume that "yes these are criminals because they are tied up, we will charge them with, something" Like does batman get out his phone and film them crime-ing first and then email the cops or how does
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oldpainless posted:I like to imagine Snyder spent like a whole day filming and refilming until midnight and trying to get the senator to really dig deep and get the true emotion thst scene needed of looking at a jar of piss and the other parts of the movie where the editors and actors had ideas and questions on how to make the movie good he was like whatever and put in some headphones and smoked weed did you imagine the characters from watchmen yelling all the time or was zack snyder the only person on the planet earth who did that
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Apr 23, 2016 19:05
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naem posted:Batman question: so if he sees a bunch of guys committing a crime and punches them (until they stop), then hangs them by their ankles from a lamppost, do the police just assume that "yes these are criminals because they are tied up, we will charge them with, something" why do you think it's so trivially easy for the criminals to get back on the street? batman's vigilante actions are a defense lawayer's wet dream and actively hamper the prosecution of the criminals he temporarily puts in jail before they are acquitted or released without charge. is it any wonder one of the biggest villains in his rogue's gallery is a former district attorney?
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Apr 23, 2016 19:08
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naem posted:Batman question: so if he sees a bunch of guys committing a crime and punches them (until they stop), then hangs them by their ankles from a lamppost, do the police just assume that "yes these are criminals because they are tied up, we will charge them with, something" they probably have to cut them loose literally and figuratively beginning the cycle anew.
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Apr 23, 2016 19:09
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Halfway through the movie superman gets a text from Bruce saying he has to stop the riddler and batman never shows up again
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Apr 23, 2016 19:13
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Well to be fair actually imprisoning or treating Gotham's criminals would hamper Batman's life goals of savagely and ruthlessly beating mentally ill poors on a nightly basis.
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Apr 23, 2016 19:25
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Yeah, it would be like a cool little game. You get to join the mob and do all sorts of illegal poo poo, and chances are high that Batman will find you long before the cops do. You'll take some rough blows or get a batarang to the hand if you're stupid enough to draw a heater, but at the end of it all, you'll recover and 9/10 times the cops won't have poo poo to do but question and release you when they find you. Since Batman does their job for them on a nightly basis, Gotham cops have got to be lazier, more corrupt and even more inept than normal. Truly a Gangster's Paradise.
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Apr 23, 2016 19:37
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its pretty unrealistic that batman hasn't just been shot to death already, imo
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Apr 23, 2016 19:38
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Make the most revolutionary story ever where it turns out sometimes beating people in the head or chest with blunt objects actually causes them to die.
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Pvt.Scott posted:Yeah, it would be like a cool little game. You get to join the mob and do all sorts of illegal poo poo, and chances are high that Batman will find you long before the cops do. You'll take some rough blows or get a batarang to the hand if you're stupid enough to draw a heater, but at the end of it all, you'll recover and 9/10 times the cops won't have poo poo to do but question and release you when they find you. Since Batman does their job for them on a nightly basis, Gotham cops have got to be lazier, more corrupt and even more inept than normal. Truly a Gangster's Paradise. they address this problem in Dark Knight Returns. Batman starts giving criminals minor injuries (like broken bones) that will keep them immobile for a while, because he knows the system will just let them go eventually he just says "gently caress it" and murders the Joker too 
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