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Broken Cog posted:The Muscle relaxant has a hidden damage bonus to any "precision" weapons, like the crossbow, the Sniper Rifle, the A.W.P, etc etc... Basically, if you pick up something and a blue arrow appears above your head, some sort of special synergy has activated. One example is Alpha Bullets + Omega Bullets = Reload speed boost (?) .
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I kinda wish the game would spell some of this stuff out somehow instead of just burying it as deeply as possible in the code.
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Apr 22, 2016 19:47
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I remembered, I found my first caped bullet kin my last run and remembered to let him live.
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Apr 22, 2016 19:48
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For me the caped bullet kin usually has a big hot ball of death about to hit him before I realize I shouldn't kill him.
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Apr 22, 2016 20:40
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Particulator + Hip Holster + Backup Gun (+ Shadow Bullets but that's not even neccessary) is an extremely awesome combo. Just mash fire and reload, point vaguely into enemy direction (optional) and concentrate on dodging. Really, the only reason i didn't flawless the Dragun on that run (the first time i ever got there, too!) is because i also found the red scarf on that run for the first time, and it completely hosed up my dodge roll game. And i still didn't even get hit on the first phase, and only twice on the second. Now that i actually know how the red scarf works (hold dodge button to teleport to mouse cursor), i could definitely flawless the last boss with ease in that setup.
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Broken Cog posted:The Muscle relaxant has a hidden damage bonus to any "precision" weapons, like the crossbow, the Sniper Rifle, the A.W.P, etc etc... So that's why my Hegemony Rifle started clearing house all of a sudden.
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Apr 23, 2016 01:20
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It turns out that Angry Bullets with Bee Hive is pretty drat broken but it also makes the Dragun impossible if you use it because the game becomes an input eating slideshow.
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Jibo posted:It turns out that Angry Bullets with Bee Hive is pretty drat broken but it also makes the Dragun impossible if you use it because the game becomes an input eating slideshow. This combo also takes out Kill Pillars in about 8 seconds. Also wow Clone makes getting the Lead God cheevo pretty dang easy.
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Jibo posted:It turns out that Angry Bullets with Bee Hive is pretty drat broke Seems appropriate
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Wow, I've been incredibly lucky with this game apparently deciding nah, gently caress you. I finally ran into it when trying to get the TV down to the Blacksmith. ...first room off the elevator was one of the hammer rooms where you have to roll. I attempt to throw the TV across, standing right on the edge it goes about halfway and then falls in the pit. I don't even care that my setup was good enough to beat the Dragun, I was annoyed enough to be like yeah, taking a break.
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Floodkiller posted:So that's why my Hegemony Rifle started clearing house all of a sudden. Yes, I think that for some reason it affects that gun as well, which turns it into an absolute monster. That combo carried me to my first victory against the Lich. Edit: Found this:  It is exactly as good as you think it is. Broken Cog fucked around with this message at 09:41 on Apr 23, 2016 |
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Apr 23, 2016 08:40
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 When he says "I need to see..." does that mean he's going to take my health (meaning I need 7 hearts and have to throw my run) or do I just need 6 hearts?
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Apr 23, 2016 11:12
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You just need to have 6 full hearts.
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Apr 23, 2016 11:31
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Holy poo poo the 7 leaf clover is OP as gently caress, it replaces EVERY CHEST in the game with red and black ones. Edit: Thanks 7 leaf clover, you're the best. Even managed to save the pig from dying!   
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Apr 23, 2016 11:38
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Lich down! Muscle relaxant, heavy bullets, magic sweet plus sniper rifle killed him faster than I could gently caress it up.
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How do secret rooms work and how do I find them? How long will ammo cubes stay in a room before despawning? Hearts and keys will stick around, but I've tried leaving ammo to come back and grab and it's always gone.
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FactsAreUseless posted:How do secret rooms work and how do I find them? Any item left in a room that can be of use to you later on has a chance to be taken by Ralph the Rat.
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Just assume any guns, items, armor or ammo boxes will be stolen by the rat as soon as you leave the room.
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FactsAreUseless posted:How do secret rooms work and how do I find them? They're pretty unpredictable, but they kinda seem to tend towards being on the outside of the map, and maybe somewhat more likely in chest rooms. If you shoot a piece of wall with non-starter weapon and it gets cracks in it, it's a secret room entrance and you can open it with a blank or explosives. I'm pretty sure the secret room entrance will only be in a piece of wall that could be a regular room entrance but isn't. I find it's they're unpredictable enough that it's not worth hunting for them beyond a shot at each other door spot in the chest rooms and throwing out any leftover blanks after finishing the floor on random rooms with space around them. There's one in the tutorial with pre-revealed cracks if you didn't spot it and have no idea what the cracks look like, it's at the part just before the boss fight, in the room to the left. lazorexplosion fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Apr 23, 2016 |
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Broken Cog posted:Yes, I think that for some reason it affects that gun as well, which turns it into an absolute monster. That combo carried me to my first victory against the Lich. It's probably because the tooltip when you pick it up says "So Accurate", so for pun reasons.
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I've put around ten hours into this game so far, enjoying it for the most part although I think drop rates need to be far less swingy than what they currently are. I'm not making it super far yet, only to the third stage or so because I enjoy playing like an idiot, but I've had several runs where I'll only get maybe three drops the entire time and have to pray a key appears in the shop so I can open a chest, and other runs where I've had three ammo drops on the same floor. A couple questions: is there any rhyme or reason as to how many waves a room has? Sometimes it's just one, sometimes it's two and it just feels like the game's wasting time. Also, is it just random when enemies drop money or are you supposed to influence that somehow? That's my biggest issue with the previous question, clearing out two large waves of enemies to get a whopping four coins out of the deal feels like I've just had my time wasted. Especially when I go do other, much faster and easier rooms where the game decides every enemy's going to drop money and I come out with twice that much.
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Every room's spawns and wave totals are pre-set based on the room type. There are a number of rooms I started to recognize after long enough and I'd find myself thinking "okay grenade enemies are going to spawn here so I can use that to my advantage."
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Apr 23, 2016 17:15
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I think this is the most attempts it's taken anyone in this thread, but even my twitchy tilty rear end could pull off this run with Membrane + Stinger + Angry Bullets:
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drat, had an amazing run that fell just short... Unlocked the level 3 shortcut, unlocked the Robot and got halfway through stage 3 of the Lich before dying
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Is the Blank shrine supposed to be limited? The first time I used it I got like 5 chests, then another time only one came out.
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It annoys me a bit that more difficult rooms don't offer better drops, at least as far as I can tell.
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I also don't think chests should be locked. The game is stingy enough on ammo and gun drops.
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Kiranamos posted:Is the Blank shrine supposed to be limited? The first time I used it I got like 5 chests, then another time only one came out. I don't think I've ever gotten more than one chest from that shrine, didn't know they can drop more.
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Broken Cog posted:I don't think I've ever gotten more than one chest from that shrine, didn't know they can drop more. I've only had a single brown chest drop from the blank shrines and never thought to use them more than once since the other shrines all seem to be single use.
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FactsAreUseless posted:I also don't think chests should be locked. The game is stingy enough on ammo and gun drops. It gets better when you unlock things like the mimic tooth necklace, shelleton key, and akey-47
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Broken Cog posted:Yes, I think that for some reason it affects that gun as well, which turns it into an absolute monster. That combo carried me to my first victory against the Lich.
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FactsAreUseless posted:It annoys me a bit that more difficult rooms don't offer better drops, at least as far as I can tell. gently caress that fourth level room that's horizontal and has the pit in the middle that spawns like four waves of every enemy that can possibly spawn on that floor. It takes longer to finish than one of those challenge shrine rooms and doesn't even have a guaranteed drop. Isaac eventually solved this by making your active items recharge double for large rooms; EtG should do something similar.
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^^^ Isaac also does't do the waves of enemies thing. You roll into a room and can see everything you'll have to deal with and don't really have to worry about getting sniped by something that spawned off screen that you didn't see.FactsAreUseless posted:It annoys me a bit that more difficult rooms don't offer better drops, at least as far as I can tell. Not just the more difficult rooms but the rooms that take longer to clear. Nothing knocks the wind out of my sails faster than having a bunch of like 3+ wave rooms in the 4th or 5th floor that just suck up all your ammo and give you maybe a couple of extra casings for my efforts.
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I'm hoping they continue to rebalance - and not by waiting until an expansion is released.
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I'm just deeply upset at the fact that there's no Robocop Auto-9 analogue in this game, nor a ROTT-style drunken missile launcher.
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I AM BRAWW posted:Any item left in a room that can be of use to you later on has a chance to be taken by Ralph the Rat. If you hide in a hallway and wait for Ralph to spawn and take a couple shots at him he'll gently caress off and won't come back on that floor (I think). I'm not 100% on this but it seemed to be true from my observational experience.
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I tried to do a 180 casings/4 keys run to fix the third floor elevator. On the first run I managed to pick up four keys from drops, but only 175 casings total for the three floors. Then on the next I only had one key drop and not a single store had a key for sale during the first or second run. I ended up destroying about 25 chests and only one dropped a single half-heart, one exploded, and the rest were trash. Didn't see a single trash eater in the merchants. I finally got it but holy poo poo the RNG really fucks you on keys sometimes.
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Also bosses should drop ammo.
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Yesterday I got a room that had one of the big red Chests with a fuse coming off it so naturally I rushed over there to open it and it turned out it was a mimic. Thanks a lot, game, way to be a loving rear end in a top hat.
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