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Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Do you actually have a copy of the book now or is it still being worked on with more stuff promised every month or so in true CIG tradition?

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Jazzzzz
May 16, 2002
Spent the past couple of evenings jumping all over the rear end end of highsec doing the Sisters of Eve epic arc, managed to lose a Cormorant when my computer decided to lock up for some unknown reason while I was trying to kite that Amarr putz who neuts you. Bought another with the insurance, put a lovely blaster and passive shield tank fit on on it, blapped him and the final dude, flew back to the other side of highsec.

Picked up Gallente frigate and destroyer books in case Sunday's roam involves Catalysts.

Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

Just started playing after reading about EVE and the war on some site and I have to say it's a long way from my days on Age of Wushu, the economy seems really interesting and I'm looking forward to trading on the market. Any tips?

Hobold
Jan 10, 2012


I love my Cutlass
I love big stompy mechs
I love my HOTAS
I love to salvage wrecks
I love Star Citizen, and all it's craziness
GOONDEYADA, GOONDEYADA, GOONDEYADA
College Slice

Old Doggy Bastard posted:

Just started playing after reading about EVE and the war on some site and I have to say it's a long way from my days on Age of Wushu, the economy seems really interesting and I'm looking forward to trading on the market. Any tips?

Market trading typically requires an initial investment of ~10bn isk to really see returns. It is definitely doable with less, but will be harder to do. Also pay attention to various products. More heavily traded ones will have market bots constantly undercutting everyone by .01 isk.

Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

Hobold posted:

Market trading typically requires an initial investment of ~10bn isk to really see returns. It is definitely doable with less, but will be harder to do. Also pay attention to various products. More heavily traded ones will have market bots constantly undercutting everyone by .01 isk.

Then I suppose the first step to becoming a serious trader is to assemble the capital to actually do the trading. I'm sure it will be tough but I'm the son of a broker and find some weird enjoyment out of watching markets or buying and selling.

FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter
scamming works if you thats your poo poo


currently im seeing how far a 200m startup can get me, currently at over 50% roi in a week :3:

Hobold
Jan 10, 2012


I love my Cutlass
I love big stompy mechs
I love my HOTAS
I love to salvage wrecks
I love Star Citizen, and all it's craziness
GOONDEYADA, GOONDEYADA, GOONDEYADA
College Slice
Getting that initial seed money isn't that difficult, and there are numerous ways to do it, if you can stomach shooting red crosses, or like DT said, scamming.

There is also more than just buy/sell in the trading. If you're feeling adventurous enough, you can even move product around into higher demand markets, via your own freighters or hiring to have it done.

Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

I may give a hand at scamming since I need cash up front, but I'm not sure really how to begin with that- until then I'll probably farm some asteroids until I get enough money or skill to get a freighter, then use the money from that to hire some people to freight, and once I'm a regular Aristotle Onassis I'll see about buying/sell trading.

Worldshatter
May 7, 2015

:kazooieass:PEPSI for TV-GAME:kazooieass:



Old Doggy Bastard posted:

I may give a hand at scamming since I need cash up front, but I'm not sure really how to begin with that- until then I'll probably farm some asteroids until I get enough money or skill to get a freighter, then use the money from that to hire some people to freight, and once I'm a regular Aristotle Onassis I'll see about buying/sell trading.

If you join goonswarm we have some good guides up on the forums about how to pull off a basic recruitment scam (tell some pubbie you'll let him join goonwaffe if he pays the "security deposit" and contracts all his poo poo over to you for transport). It sounds stupid but people will fall for it and it's a good way to make your first few billion.

Old Doggy Bastard
Dec 18, 2008

Worldshatter posted:

If you join goonswarm we have some good guides up on the forums about how to pull off a basic recruitment scam (tell some pubbie you'll let him join goonwaffe if he pays the "security deposit" and contracts all his poo poo over to you for transport). It sounds stupid but people will fall for it and it's a good way to make your first few billion.

Planning on it, I jumped the gun and tried to register for Goonswarm before my account had a character made so the registration process is now glitched for me- I sent in an email to fix things and hopefully it works out. I'm excited to gather supplies to fuel the Goon war machine.

Lack of Gravitas
Oct 11, 2012

Grimey Drawer
There was an out-of-game tool called EveMentat that was good for station trading; it has been replaced by Evernus which has stayed up to date with the changes to the EVE Api but this youtube vid for EveMentat works for Evernus as well.

What I liked about it was how it integrated with the in-game-browser which made it easy to check the market in-game then export the data, see what orders needed updating, and then easily update those orders back in the game.

http://evernus.com/features

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeTPY-Y9s1g

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

scamming works if you thats your poo poo


currently im seeing how far a 200m startup can get me, currently at over 50% roi in a week :3:

You're playing the game again.

You've made a terrible mistake. :ohdear:

Chris1975
Aug 4, 2007
Any spike of Goon activity due to the current scenario?

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax

Old Doggy Bastard posted:

I may give a hand at scamming since I need cash up front, but I'm not sure really how to begin with that- until then I'll probably farm some asteroids until I get enough money or skill to get a freighter, then use the money from that to hire some people to freight, and once I'm a regular Aristotle Onassis I'll see about buying/sell trading.

mining rocks is not a good way to make money since the skills all up mining returns and efficiency, and boy howdy there are a shitload of mining skills

gas mining, now, that's where you can make a quick buck without much time or money investment. im talking like hundreds of times the money for the same thing in the same ship.

nigga crab pollock fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Apr 23, 2016

FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter

Unfunny Poster posted:

You're playing the game again.

You've made a terrible mistake. :ohdear:

i have, for my purposes, unlimited isk to drive unlimited playtime and im engaging in something i've never done to a major degree before (production and market stuff), I mean i did rigs when they first came out but it was a completely empty market except for me and sometimes vio

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica

Chris1975 posted:

Any spike of Goon activity due to the current scenario?

lol no

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

FruitNYogurtParfait posted:

i have, for my purposes, unlimited isk to drive unlimited playtime and im engaging in something i've never done to a major degree before (production and market stuff), I mean i did rigs when they first came out but it was a completely empty market except for me and sometimes vio

I did PI when I first started. It was kinda fun but way too much work for the payoff I was getting.

Jazzzzz
May 16, 2002

Unfunny Poster posted:

I did PI when I first started. It was kinda fun but way too much work for the payoff I was getting.

I did some reading on PI yesterday and it looks like Farmville in space with crap returns unless you're in nullsec and "doing it right" requires a bunch of alts

Altran
Mar 20, 2013
is the SA roam still happening? Space Violence is pretty wicked lately.

Worldshatter
May 7, 2015

:kazooieass:PEPSI for TV-GAME:kazooieass:



Altran posted:

is the SA roam still happening? Space Violence is pretty wicked lately.

space violence has been a load of fun lately. Both it and reavers are actually undocking and trying to fight things which is cool.

Hobold
Jan 10, 2012


I love my Cutlass
I love big stompy mechs
I love my HOTAS
I love to salvage wrecks
I love Star Citizen, and all it's craziness
GOONDEYADA, GOONDEYADA, GOONDEYADA
College Slice
It'd be nice to get into either SV or Reavers to do more poo poo than the constant sword fleets, but the whole needing a vouch thing kills it for me. :negative:

Worldshatter
May 7, 2015

:kazooieass:PEPSI for TV-GAME:kazooieass:



Hobold posted:

It'd be nice to get into either SV or Reavers to do more poo poo than the constant sword fleets, but the whole needing a vouch thing kills it for me. :negative:

Just send me a pm on goonfleetdotcom and I'll vouch you in because you're in the chill thread



(please don't be a spy that would make me look bad tia)

Denis
Apr 8, 2015

there should be a chill squad in game and chill mumble channel.

Landsknecht
Oct 27, 2009
I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

Denis posted:

there should be a chill squad in game and chill mumble channel.

go to pgs and there's a link to the discord with an eve channel

Xenothral
Aug 1, 2013

No one's left... Everything's gone...! Zebes is burning!

I almost have all of the weapon specialisation skills at 4. I'm pretty excited about that!

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Jazzzzz posted:

I did some reading on PI yesterday and it looks like Farmville in space with crap returns unless you're in nullsec and "doing it right" requires a bunch of alts

It kind of is. I had fun figuring it out, but yeah it was just not worth the effort put in at the end of the day.

Denis posted:

there should be a chill squad in game and chill mumble channel.

Use "goon-town" in-game and be cool.

Mekchu fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Apr 23, 2016

Fureil
Jul 7, 2012
Can someone explain the usefulness/role of the command battlecruisers? I tried asking in the other thread but there is to much unchill there for me to get a straight answer.

Xenothral
Aug 1, 2013

No one's left... Everything's gone...! Zebes is burning!

Fureil posted:

Can someone explain the usefulness/role of the command battlecruisers? I tried asking in the other thread but there is to much unchill there for me to get a straight answer.

Usually they're flown either as ships to use links on to boost various stats for the fleet, or used for their ability to put a disgusting amount of damage on the field with a pretty hefty tank, at least in my experience. I've only ever really flown with small fleets.

Fureil
Jul 7, 2012

Xenothral posted:

Usually they're flown either as ships to use links on to boost various stats for the fleet, or used for their ability to put a disgusting amount of damage on the field with a pretty hefty tank, at least in my experience. I've only ever really flown with small fleets.

Cool, thanks. I don't really like the look of any of the battleships aside from maybe the abbadon, and I can't really see myself getting into Capitol ships so I'm trying to decide if I want a command battlecruiser to by my "end game" in, say, a year or so.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
http://massivelyop.com/2016/04/23/eve-fanfest-2016-project-nova-will-include-territorial-warfare-link-with-eve/

:neckbeard:

quote:

So is the plan for Nova to have its own persistent elements such as territorial warfare?

“Planetary conquest is something that I consider the key feature of the game. It’s where you had the veterans fighting the veterans, and that is on the roadmap.”If you remember DUST 514, planetary conquest is something that I consider the key feature of the game. It’s where you had the veterans fighting the veterans, and that is on the roadmap. It is the defining feature of DUST 514 to me, and I supported it as much as I could during the last two years by fixing exploits. I’m not sure if it’s common knowledge, but we actually reached out to every single CEO that owned a district and created a planetary conquest think tank. We had more than 70 people contributing on how to fix it and how to make it robust, people telling us secrets that they had been using to get an advantage. They were all working together on a common goal rather than their own selfish purposes because they wanted the game to succeed and the feature to be more realistic and more fun.
Is the plan to have its own planetary conquest that isn’t connected to EVE then?

So planetary conquest in DUST actually took place on the planets that are in EVE, but it was really more of a thematic leap than anything else. Its like the battle of Hoth in Star Wars, Hoth is a recognisable planet, and it’s all a part of the Star Wars universe. These planets were all a part of the EVE universe and these battles were taking place there, but there was no additional gameplay link apart from the orbital bombardment. The orbital bombardment itself was really difficult to use, and it was logistically difficult to align the people on both sides of the game, so it wasn’t a feature that a new player or an intermediate player could get enthusiastic or excited about. I’d like to put something in their hands earlier than that.

We’ve been proposing the following connection stages: thematic, followed by social (being in the same corporations), supplemented by planetary conquest so we have the corporations owning land. The next link for me would be an economic link, so there is the idea that if you own a planetary district, you can farm something, but that unit would be useless to you as a Nova player; it would only be useful to you as an EVE player and vice versa. So you could force an interaction between the two games that would be helpful to both sides if they trade and work together. Ultimately, whatever you could create with that Nova unit in EVE and EVE unit in Nova wouldn’t need to be anything magnificent; it could be just a cosmetic item or a side-grade or something cool. It could be anything, but just the fact that it can exist is more important to me than a gameplay link that is obscure.

Is this a case of you want Nova to stand on its own two feet and then build it up a bit at a time?

100%, yep.

And then maybe when it’s viable, then talk about connecting it to EVE in a way that is mutually beneficial to both games?

Yes, exactly. The thing is that now that people have seen Nova, they are saying, “Well that’s nothing unique; why are you showing this to us because there’s no EVE connection!” But the exact opposite is what they said in the last six months. They said, “Why would I even want to play connected to EVE when I can barely get 20 frames per second and I’m lagging and the shooter gameplay isn’t great?”

We’re targeting the feedback we’ve got during DUST 514, which is basically performance first, gameplay second, and making sure the minute-to-minute gameplay is great, tactical, and fun. That will retain people on its own merit, not on the premise that its going to be great some day, so we are twisting the vision of DUST 514 and inverting it. We make sure people stick because of the game they’re playing, and then we can augment it.

Another thing that’s different about an FPS is that first-person shooters are way more about mastery, and if you take the mastery away from an FPS player, he becomes way more frustrated than an average gamer. I rely on my mouse, keyboard, and situational awareness, and if I’m being let down by lag spikes and killed over and over because of the game and not because of my own performance, I think that frustrates FPS players more than other games.

What’s the unique twist that will make Nova more than every other shooter?

That’s where we are refining the message both at Fanfest and during development. To me — and this may be controversial — I really just want to make a great shooter as I’ve been lacking a great shooter for a long time that I want to play in this setting. For me, the current marketplace doesn’t have a realistic sci-fi FPS that I want to play, and I think that there are people like me who would want that offering. So it’s a tactical, squad-based, realistic game that has its own laws and its own rules and its own lore setting and feels real, and that’s something I’ve always kind of yearned for in games.

“We’re not going into the Team Fortress and Overwatch area; it’s going to be crowded, and there is going to be a winner or two out of that blood bath.”We can see that the market is going very fantasy MOBA direction with games like Overwatch; we are not positioning ourselves to fight on that front. We’re not going into the Team Fortress and Overwatch area; it’s going to be crowded, and there is going to be a winner or two out of that blood bath. We’re going to be in a different area while that’s happening, so for example you can see that Warframe has been very successful in its own niche as a third-person shooter with more of a co-op PvE element but with a realistic “sci-fi cool” genre. We had a lot of people playing DUST 514 in the past, and retaining a bigger chunk of them would have made us more successful.

We were told that Nova is set in the future of the EVE universe, but if you’re considering a link, is it actually set in the current universe?

Nova is basically set in whatever time is happening in EVE now. We actually talked to the EVE lore team as it’s very important to me not to say anything wrong in the setting. We had a sit down with Paul Elsy and the lore guys Linzi Campbell and Nick Bardsley to really nail that, and we talked about how the cloning tech works with the DUST clones and Valkyrie clones. It’s incredible to be able to ask that question like you would ask the doctor or a real-life person to explain something because someone has already defined it — it’s an amazing asset.

Lack of Gravitas
Oct 11, 2012

Grimey Drawer
Hello chill thread. Is there a way to import an EFT txt block into Pyfa for strategic cruisers? I know T3s slots depend on what subsystems they have, but when I try to import a fit into Pyfa I get the subs and the cargo, but no high/mid/lows.

Here is a chill picture for you all in the meantime :3:

Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine
I tried to reason with grrgoons on reddit following the steaming double deuce of crasskitty/lex arson drama, forgive me chill thread. I sentence myself to indefinite confinement to this thread until I truly no longer give a gently caress.

If I could get my god drat courier contract full of T1 frigates delivered to FW space I could maybe get some solo pvp practice before trying to roam in my shiny new Taranis. Gotta take a break from space nerd slapfights while I figure out what I really want to do. Right now I'm kinda spread out due to wanting to try all the things but that's gonna lead to burnout.

Ok that was a bit unchill but just had to vent, I'm cool now chill thread

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica
yeah stay away from reddit and be chill friend



namaste

Other Barry
Jun 5, 2012


Dinosaur Gum
The bad threads are multiplying :ohdear:

Fureil
Jul 7, 2012
As far as command ships go are there any that are particularly more useful than others? I don't know a whole lot about the different warfare links yet. I like the looks of both of the Amarr ones and the Minmatar ones, and I could probably grow to like the caldari ones. I just don't want to train up to get in, say, a Damnation and then be told "We only do shield fleets so go get in a Sleipnir or a Vulture or :frogout: "

Xenothral
Aug 1, 2013

No one's left... Everything's gone...! Zebes is burning!

Fureil posted:

As far as command ships go are there any that are particularly more useful than others? I don't know a whole lot about the different warfare links yet. I like the looks of both of the Amarr ones and the Minmatar ones, and I could probably grow to like the caldari ones. I just don't want to train up to get in, say, a Damnation and then be told "We only do shield fleets so go get in a Sleipnir or a Vulture or :frogout: "

I think the most popular ones are the Sleipnir and I want to say Damnation? Mostly I see people use Sleipnirs if they're going to be using them as actual combat ships instead of just a 'sit in the safe or on station and run links' ship. As far as the different kinds of links, Siege links are shield links, Skirmish are navigational stuff, Information are EWAR oriented and Armored is, well, armor.

Eminai
Apr 29, 2013

I agree with Dante, that the hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality.

Fureil posted:

As far as command ships go are there any that are particularly more useful than others? I don't know a whole lot about the different warfare links yet. I like the looks of both of the Amarr ones and the Minmatar ones, and I could probably grow to like the caldari ones. I just don't want to train up to get in, say, a Damnation and then be told "We only do shield fleets so go get in a Sleipnir or a Vulture or :frogout: "

Sleipnirs are generally considered to be the best command ship, although PL seems to be doing very well with Astartes. You might want to wait a bit on picking a race though, CCP is planning on changing how boosting works soon, and that could involve a BC rebalance.

Fureil
Jul 7, 2012

Xenothral posted:

I think the most popular ones are the Sleipnir and I want to say Damnation? Mostly I see people use Sleipnirs if they're going to be using them as actual combat ships instead of just a 'sit in the safe or on station and run links' ship. As far as the different kinds of links, Siege links are shield links, Skirmish are navigational stuff, Information are EWAR oriented and Armored is, well, armor.

Thanks for the rundown.

Eminai posted:

Sleipnirs are generally considered to be the best command ship, although PL seems to be doing very well with Astartes. You might want to wait a bit on picking a race though, CCP is planning on changing how boosting works soon, and that could involve a BC rebalance.

I'll keep that in mind when making my skill plan. Probably just hang out at the cruiser level till that change drops.

CashEnsign
Feb 7, 2015

Other Barry posted:

The bad threads are multiplying :ohdear:

They are. I read reddit, and it's full of bad SA Eve threads. This thread and Zulu are the only places I can get away from the ~narrative~ :(

Thanks for being chill, chill thread.

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BromanderData
Mar 20, 2013

Stroke it with me

The Chosen One
I've now posted in all the space threads.

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