stubblyhead posted:My morning has been questionable up til now, but now that I know of the existence of Batzarro things are turning around.  MALB.
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The upside-down pouches are a nice touch.
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It occurred to me while watching some dudes put up a new gas station sign that "MART" is short for "MARKET". That's my whole story, a quick google search both confirms and denies and I don't care about etymology so
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fullroundaction posted:It occurred to me while watching some dudes put up a new gas station sign that "MART" is short for "MARKET". Or, quite possibly, it isn't. e: In the sense that first you had the English word market and then English-speakers shortened it to mart. It's possible of course.
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Apr 19, 2016 13:02
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Jerry Cotton posted:Or, quite possibly, it isn't. Market is from Old French marchiet. Mart is from Middle Dutch markt. Both are originally from Latin mercatus. If you have the thought "hey, this modern English word sounds a lot like this other modern English word", it's almost never the case that one is a neologism based on the other. Shared etymology or false cognates are far more likely.
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Apr 19, 2016 13:11
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Bertrand Hustle posted:If you have the thought "hey, this modern English word sounds a lot like this other modern English word", it's almost never the case that one is a neologism based on the other. Shared etymology or false cognates are far more likely. Especially since the entire history of England consists of being conquered by everyone all the time so you'd get huge amounts of different (sometimes repeating) foreign influences. It's completely possible that a few dozen Middle Dutchians conquered England several times but no-one noticed because the next wave was already on its way.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Especially since the entire history of England consists of being conquered by everyone all the time so you'd get huge amounts of different (sometimes repeating) foreign influences. It's completely possible that a few dozen Middle Dutchians conquered England several times but no-one noticed because the next wave was already on its way. Well, we probably inherited it via the Germans.
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Tesseraction posted:Well, we probably inherited it via the Germans. Oh yeah I bet they invaded a buncha times too. Very welcoming place, England. I'd visit some day but I don't want to have to lord it over all those natives 
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People should just listen to "The history of English" podcast if that stuff fascinates them. There's a lot of times where the same word enters English twice via Germanic languages and then again through French, and you can tell the difference because the stupid french couldn't pronounce W's so it's Guillame not William and 'guardian,' not 'warden' but we have both now.
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Zesty Mordant posted:People should just listen to "The history of English" podcast if that stuff fascinates them. There's a lot of times where the same word enters English twice via Germanic languages and then again through French, and you can tell the difference because the stupid french couldn't pronounce W's so it's Guillame not William and 'guardian,' not 'warden' but we have both now. Did the same happen with GIF and JIF?
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Jerry Cotton posted:Did the same happen with GIF and JIF? Careful now. You're going to spark a nerd holy war with that. (I pronounce it JGIF)
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Apr 23, 2016 20:03
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Or guarantee and warranty. I noticed this when i was too dumb to figure out how to open the packaging on a camera memory card and started to just read the trilingual fine print on the back as if that was going to help somehow.
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Apr 23, 2016 22:07
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Zesty Mordant posted:french couldn't pronounce W https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEYT0QcI-9Q
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Apr 23, 2016 22:38
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My uncle was a ship engineer & did a lot of travel to oversee the actual constructions of the ships. He had a colleague surnamed Høst. The French had a very hard time with that name.
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Snapchat A Titty posted:My uncle was a ship engineer & did a lot of travel to oversee the actual constructions of the ships. He had a colleague surnamed Høst. The French had a very hard time with that name. I'm reasonably sure the ø sound or something close to it exists in French. Maybe the French just don't like Germanic peoples.
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Seems like they would just say 'ost. edit: I don't think anyone outside of Scandinavia knows how to pronounce Ø, I had to look it up myself.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Did the same happen with GIF and JIF? "gif" is an Old English word; it's apparently pronounced "yiff".
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Bertrand Hustle posted:I'm reasonably sure the ø sound or something close to it exists in French. Maybe the French just don't like Germanic peoples. No yeah ø is similar to how the french pronounce the vowel combo eu. But only people who are familiar with both languages know that. Then there's the mute initial H & the -st ending & you're left with a vowel you aren't familiar with.
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Besesoth posted:"gif" is an Old English word; it's apparently pronounced "yiff". Fun fact: if you're reading an OE text and don't know a verb it's absolutely safe to just assume it means to kill.
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Apr 23, 2016 23:55
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irl gif is pronounced hrefff. Like how a spaniard would pronounce Xef.
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I pronounce it kihvi in case anyone is interested.
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Jerry Cotton posted:I pronounce it kihvi in case anyone is interested. yeah but youre finnish though right? Afaik Finland is an inferno of sweaters, vodka, knife fights, & saunas. All men have long hair like they were in an 80s metal band, and all women are wider than they're tall. Everybody is an expert sniper & the elected officials look like they were born too soon or have baby alcohol syndrome .
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ech that sounds kinda harsh. I don't believe even half of that, but that's the danish stereotype of finns.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Did the same happen with GIF and JIF? Nah that was Jif and Cif.
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thespaceinvader posted:Nah that was Jif and Cif. Wow. I never realized we use peanut butter as a cleaning agent.
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Apr 24, 2016 12:47
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Jerry Cotton posted:Wow. I never realized we use peanut butter as a cleaning agent. Hopefully not vice-versa, although it would explain the current economic woes.
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Apr 24, 2016 12:59
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My Bloody Valentine My Funny Valentine.
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Jerry Cotton posted:Wow. I never realized we use peanut butter as a cleaning agent. If you come to Europe do not buy Cif thinking it is peanut butter. Not a good idea.
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Inzombiac posted:My Bloody Valentine What?
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My Bloody Valentine is the name of both a band and a slasher movie, which is probably a play on My Funny Valentine, a jazz standard from the late 1930s. At least that's what I assume they meant.
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GWBBQ posted:My Bloody Valentine is the name of both a band and a slasher movie, which is probably a play on My Funny Valentine, a jazz standard from the late 1930s. Also you give valentines hearts and hearts pump blood.
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I thought My Bloody Valentine was about the Saint Valentine's Day Massacre but then what do I know.
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They were asked before if it was a reference to the film and Kevin said it wasn't and if I remember correctly didn't offer an explanation as to where it came from.
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EmmyOk posted:They were asked before if it was a reference to the film and Kevin said it wasn't and if I remember correctly didn't offer an explanation as to where it came from. Well he is the laziest man in music.
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Apr 25, 2016 06:36
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Captain Monkey posted:Also you give valentines hearts and hearts pump blood. What? That doesn't make any sense.
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Apr 25, 2016 06:44
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I just realized that "podcast" is a portmanteau of iPod and broadcast.
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All on Black posted:I just realized that "podcast" is a portmanteau of iPod and broadcast. Wait no Google backs you up. Where the hell did I hear this? E: OK so Microsoft tried to make up their own etymology for it. Wonderful. AlphaKretin has a new favorite as of 06:48 on Apr 25, 2016 |
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Makes sense to me. I imagine other tech companies don't love using an Apple term for something that has become somewhat ubiquitous nowadays.
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Phlegmish posted:Seems like they would just say 'ost. Germans do  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%96
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All on Black posted:I just realized that "podcast" is a portmanteau of iPod and broadcast. I'm still not sure what a podcast is but if I ever bother to look it up, I'll post in this thread.
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