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Police Automaton
Mar 17, 2009
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1000 Brown M and Ms posted:

Sure, but it's still kind of mind-blowing especially since a lot of goons are like myself and grew up when computers were just becoming mainstream. I did it myself a few years back when I ran Windows 3.1 through Dosbox on an Ubuntu machine. That's three levels of OS and that kind of thing was unthinkable when I was a child 20 years ago.

The most common configuration for upgraded Amigas as has been mentioned was to run MacOS on them inside an Emulator. This was good for the last diehards of the platform as there was a very sharp decline in software in the early to mid-90s as companies left to greener pastures and more capable machines, especially after Commodore went broke.

Software like Fusion or Shapeshifter would run concurrently to AmigaOS and you could switch back and forth between MacOS and other AmigaOS screens with a key combination, and run Apps in both OSes which was even pretty snappy. The speed for MacOS was almost what you'd suppose bare-metal speed with the hardware would be, it was very efficient and in some cases with the right Amiga hardware even faster than real 68k Macs. With an 060 Accelerator&the right graphics card it's actually the fastest way to run a 68k MacOS on 68k Hardware of that time. Because of how clean everything was implemented in MacOS, it was also very compatible. You'd only need the ROM-Images of an 68k Mac. I can play games like the Mac versions of Master of Orion II, Duke3D and Star Trek: TNG - a final Unity with my Amiga 2000 with that, video cutscenes and everything. (Some things are a bit chuggy though, the Zorro II Bus the A2000 has is pretty slow and full-screen updates in higher resolutions really choke it) Lots of 68k games which were more or less unplayable on 040 Macs actually are quite playable with that computer and it's 060 Accelerator.

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theultimo
Aug 2, 2004

An RSS feed bot who makes questionable purchasing decisions.
Pillbug

Police Automaton posted:

The most common configuration for upgraded Amigas as has been mentioned was to run MacOS on them inside an Emulator. This was good for the last diehards of the platform as there was a very sharp decline in software in the early to mid-90s as companies left to greener pastures and more capable machines, especially after Commodore went broke.

Software like Fusion or Shapeshifter would run concurrently to AmigaOS and you could switch back and forth between MacOS and other AmigaOS screens with a key combination, and run Apps in both OSes which was even pretty snappy. The speed for MacOS was almost what you'd suppose bare-metal speed with the hardware would be, it was very efficient and in some cases with the right Amiga hardware even faster than real 68k Macs. With an 060 Accelerator&the right graphics card it's actually the fastest way to run a 68k MacOS on 68k Hardware of that time. Because of how clean everything was implemented in MacOS, it was also very compatible. You'd only need the ROM-Images of an 68k Mac. I can play games like the Mac versions of Master of Orion II, Duke3D and Star Trek: TNG - a final Unity with my Amiga 2000 with that, video cutscenes and everything. Lots of 68k games which were more or less unplayable on 040 Macs actually are quite playable with that computer and it's 060 Accelerator.

My 1200 with the blizzard ppc chip even does a decent job at 7.5.x programs too

Police Automaton
Mar 17, 2009
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Never touched any PPC Amiga. Got an A1200 in the early 90s, smelled the ashes, then got a 486 as quick as possible and enjoyed a fast computer proper companies actually actively developed soft- and hardware for. All that artisan crafted 3rd party hardware the amiga had didn't have quite the charm back then, especially not at the prices offered. I'm surprised so many people even still have A1200s with these Accelerator monsters running. The entire way an A1200 is laid out feels like you really shouldn't go past 20- maaaybee 25W consumption with everything being stock hardware. A PPC inside one (especially regarding the TDP the early ones had) feels like it'd put Bitcoin mining rigs to shame.

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Regular Nintendo posted:

Nah I want the oldschool poo poo. I was hoping there was some third party ppc-dosbox type environment

If you want to run OS X for PowerPC, PearPC can apparently do it. I've only ever used it to play with Darwin directly, but it sounds from the site like it will run OS X. I don't know how well it works if your host is also OS X though, it was originally designed to run on either Windows or Linux. Maybe it will compile okay for OS X.

EugeneJ posted:

This should be its own thread - I want to see a competition

I can't remember where exactly but I've read blogs or other forums where people have gone to great lengths to run things in as many emulators inside each other as possible. I don't know if any of these people got sound or networking to work though, so there's a challenge for any masochists with lots of free time!

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli

Buttcoin purse posted:

If you want to run OS X for PowerPC, PearPC
Also don't forget it's shameless knock off, CherryOS. Which many claimed was simply PearPC with the mouse refresh rate increased.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Holy crap I want this book for some reason:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWYweAUikis

Robnoxious
Feb 17, 2004

Germstore posted:

I'm mildly tempted to put "You've got mail" as my notification sound on my phone. Piss people right off.
One of our work computers has the "You've got mail" sound prompt running in Thunderbird even though we don't use AOL or ever have as far as I know.
It certainly stands out more than a benign chime or a ding.

laserghost
Feb 12, 2014

trust me, I'm a cat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9Nz1y7Sj74

got this program as a kid, it was even properly translated and localized, with all the graphic changes and voicovers.

Prenton
Feb 17, 2011

Ner nerr-nerrr ner

Police Automaton posted:

All that artisan crafted 3rd party hardware the amiga had didn't have quite the charm back then, especially not at the prices offered.

Yeah, gently caress that. There was a weird attitude in some quarters back then that if you weren't spunking money up the wall on weirdo accelerators you were killing the Amiga. Which was memorably skewered by J Nash in his Alien Breed 3D 2 review.

quote:

But, phew, a sheet in the box offers £40 off accelerator boards costing £200 and £600... AB3D2 isn't meant for standard A1200s, which the staggering majority of A1200 owners have. Your fault for not investing in the future of the Amiga, you pigs.

Or: I could play Doom on the PC that my dad nabbed for free from his work when they were chucking it out. Decisions, decisions.

Dr Jankenstein
Aug 6, 2009

Hold the newsreader's nose squarely, waiter, or friendly milk will countermand my trousers.
My record was Vista running XP in a VM running 98 in a vm running Amiga running sheepsaver.

...Oregon trail ran at about the same speed I remembered on the old Apple iis in school.

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost


I got as far as OS X running Windows 10 in a VM running QEMU in the Linux Bash shell installing a Japanese version of Windows ME.

Because why not.

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry
Let's talk about early internet multiplayer games.



Netrek was/is a Star Trek themed, team based multiplayer top down space shooter. First released in 1988, this game has been ported to practically every OS in existence. It is still available here: http://www.netrek.org/





Meridian 59 was possibly the first 3D Graphical MMO. The first game that had anything in common with modern MMO games. Launched in 1995 and updated with several expansions. It was open sourced a few years ago and can still be played at http://www.meridian59.com/






The Realm Online (previously "The Realm") claims to be the first and longest established graphical MMO (even though Meridian 59 was launched a year earlier. Still avalible at http://www.realmserver.com/ the current owners of the game still want $6.99 a month to play, but there is a 7 day free trial if you want.




Subspace: Continuum (Previously "Subspace) was launched in 1997. A top down space shooter with multiple gameplay modes, ship types, and community created maps. Subspace is still played today and is available on steam at http://store.steampowered.com/app/352700/

kilogram
Mar 29, 2012

Cyborg Senator

Drastic Actions posted:



I got as far as OS X running Windows 10 in a VM running QEMU in the Linux Bash shell installing a Japanese version of Windows ME.

Because why not.

How does it run? If it's above 15 FPS we need to go deeper

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Lowen SoDium posted:

Let's talk about early internet multiplayer games.



Netrek was/is a Star Trek themed, team based multiplayer top down space shooter. First released in 1988, this game has been ported to practically every OS in existence. It is still available here: http://www.netrek.org/





Meridian 59 was possibly the first 3D Graphical MMO. The first game that had anything in common with modern MMO games. Launched in 1995 and updated with several expansions. It was open sourced a few years ago and can still be played at http://www.meridian59.com/






The Realm Online (previously "The Realm") claims to be the first and longest established graphical MMO (even though Meridian 59 was launched a year earlier. Still avalible at http://www.realmserver.com/ the current owners of the game still want $6.99 a month to play, but there is a 7 day free trial if you want.




Subspace: Continuum (Previously "Subspace) was launched in 1997. A top down space shooter with multiple gameplay modes, ship types, and community created maps. Subspace is still played today and is available on steam at http://store.steampowered.com/app/352700/

Ultima Online was better

Literally Lewis Hamilton
Feb 22, 2005



I played the Realm for a couple years. PVP was turn based so you'd have a "caller" per group who would instruct everyone on what spells to cast and who to attack.

There was a dispel magic spell that would strip off buffs from newest to oldest so there was a strategic element to which buffs you'd apply first.

Less scrupulous were the fuckers who would disconnect their modem, "plugging" when they were going to die. The game would lag and time out and they'd get off the hook.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Does brand new games that default to windowed mode count as old?

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Humphreys posted:

Does brand new games that default to windowed mode count as old?



This isn't out is it :confused:

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

Humphreys posted:

Does brand new games that default to windowed mode count as old?



Note that it says beta in the title bar...

Germstore
Oct 17, 2012

A Serious Candidate For a Serious Time
Mirrors Edge: Catalyst? In game GPU advertising has officially gone too far.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

Winamp 2.78c was the best, gently caress 3 and 5 (what happened to 4?)

theultimo
Aug 2, 2004

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SaNChEzZ posted:

Winamp 2.78c was the best, gently caress 3 and 5 (what happened to 4?)

5. Supports 2x stuff, it kicks the llamas rear end

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

GutBomb posted:

Note that it says beta in the title bar...

That can't be used as a blanket excuse for everything can it? I mean how hard can it be to use full screen?

Frozen Pizza Party
Dec 13, 2005

theultimo posted:

5. Supports 2x stuff, it whips the llamas rear end

Ftfy

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

I jumped here to the end of the thread from some discussion on page 17 of people who love their stock car radios but don't have aux inputs. I am one of those people, and want you all to know that if your car had a CD Changer available as an option, the head unit has the connector for it whether you got the changer or not.

And there are third party electronics that use that as an aux in. Straight plug and play, it changed my life for the better.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

SaNChEzZ posted:

Winamp 2.78c was the best, gently caress 3 and 5 (what happened to 4?)
They skipped 4 because Winamp 5 supports everything from 2 and 3, and 2 + 3 = ... :haw:

woodch
Jun 13, 2000

This'll kill ya!

theultimo posted:

5. Supports 2x stuff, it kicks the llamas rear end

Truth. I'm still running Winamp 5.666, though it's harder to find right now cuz someone bought the rights to it and has done gently caress-all with it recently.

If the new interface bugs you, you can load up the old classic "Good Old Winamp" skin and be none the wiser.

"But woodch, it uses more memory than foobar and isn't as efficient, and I can't customize it to look like an anime nightmare!"

"Who cares? It works right after install and plays everything I want it to play."

H2SO4
Sep 11, 2001

put your money in a log cabin


Buglord

I know this is super old, but Black Sunday left a huge bad taste in the mouth of not only pirates but regular consumers as well. They not only fried hacked cards but a shitload of actual legit HU cards. I remember DirecTV kept trying to incentivise everyone to upgrade to new receivers that didn't use the more plainly vulnerable cards, but we never did because the ones we have were still working fine and IIRC you had to pay to upgrade. So Black Sunday rolls around, all of our receivers get fried and when you call DirecTV they said "Yeah, you had a hacked receiver, eat poo poo."

Pricks.

kilogram
Mar 29, 2012

Cyborg Senator

woodch posted:

Truth. I'm still running Winamp 5.666, though it's harder to find right now cuz someone bought the rights to it and has done gently caress-all with it recently.

If the new interface bugs you, you can load up the old classic "Good Old Winamp" skin and be none the wiser.

"But woodch, it uses more memory than foobar and isn't as efficient, and I can't customize it to look like an anime nightmare!"

"Who cares? It works right after install and plays everything I want it to play."

I don't care about anime nightmares or memory use in this day and age but the one feature that makes foobar win every time I consider changing my music player is that I can make my own sorting and grouping by writing one line of code directly in the settings. The only other player I have seen with that feature is MusicBee, and its implementation of it was extremely cumbersome last I checked.

If Winamp had that feature I would be all over it because foobar looks and controls like absolute poo poo. What's that, you wanna use the space bar to pause? Go ahead but I hope you don't plan on editing tags anytime soon :smug:

Light Gun Man
Oct 17, 2009

toEjaM iS oN
vaCatioN




Lipstick Apathy

shame on an IGA posted:

I jumped here to the end of the thread from some discussion on page 17 of people who love their stock car radios but don't have aux inputs. I am one of those people, and want you all to know that if your car had a CD Changer available as an option, the head unit has the connector for it whether you got the changer or not.

And there are third party electronics that use that as an aux in. Straight plug and play, it changed my life for the better.

Tell me more!

thoughts and prayers
Apr 22, 2013

Love heals all wounds. We hope you continually carry love in your heart. Today and always, may loving memories bring you peace, comfort, and strength. We sympathize with the family of (Name). We shall never forget you in our prayers and thoughts. I am at a loss for words during this sorrowful time.

Light Gun Man posted:

Tell me more!

Tangent, sort of:

In 2003 a buddy of mine had a Linux MP3 player car pull-out stereo. He built it from a spec he found on a Linux spurgfes- err, forum. It was a full-fledged computer that networked with his others via Ethernet.

It had a 1-color readout that had all sorts of configurability and animations, and maybe 240dpi resolution. He had it set up to have scrolling text, screensavers, and IIRC song lyrics that he synced from some site.

It was solid as gently caress, because it had a full laptop stuffed in there - power supply, circuit board, networking, and - get this - a FOUR GIGABYTE HARD DRIVE. He was so loving proud of that thing. It was the coolest thing ever.

Three months later, I showed him my iPod Mini, in glorious silver and white, that had identical specs and was 1/20th the size.

He tried to act like it didn't deflate him a bit, but it did.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



kilogram posted:

How does it run? If it's above 15 FPS we need to go deeper

Centripetal Horse
Nov 22, 2009

Fuck money, get GBS

This could have bought you a half a tank of gas, lmfao -
Love, gromdul

Lowen SoDium posted:



Subspace: Continuum (Previously "Subspace) was launched in 1997. A top down space shooter with multiple gameplay modes, ship types, and community created maps. Subspace is still played today and is available on steam at http://store.steampowered.com/app/352700/

I played approximately one billion hours of this game. It was good. Every couple of years, I reinstall it, but it's down to a couple of servers with maps I don't really like, and not very many players.

Meskhenet
Apr 26, 2010

SaNChEzZ posted:

Winamp 2.78c was the best, gently caress 3 and 5 (what happened to 4?)

I still use 2.78c as my primary music player. It doesnt need an install. So this folder, complete with retarded skins has probably made its way over from 98, to 2000, to xp and now on 7 (Or maybe it was after 98)

I did try out 5. I think i gave it about half an hour before i hit uninstall. And still found fragments of its bloatware weeks later.

blugu64
Jul 17, 2006

Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face?
cmus for life

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

a happy snowman posted:

In 2003 a buddy of mine had a Linux MP3 player car pull-out stereo. He built it from a spec he found on a Linux spurgfes- err, forum. It was a full-fledged computer that networked with his others via Ethernet.

It had a 1-color readout that had all sorts of configurability and animations, and maybe 240dpi resolution. He had it set up to have scrolling text, screensavers, and IIRC song lyrics that he synced from some site.

This is a message from the Department of Motor Vehicles. Please do not read song lyrics while driving. Thank you.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

I think I found the cover for my vaporwave album

The Repo Man
Jul 31, 2013

I Remember...
I don't know if this is old enough for the thread, but I remember this whole series coming on a demo CD. I'm sure I've probably still got it somewhere...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej0E-rfx8K0


Also, my first memory of our Hewlett Packard Bell Win95 computer.



It came with a CD of games that blew me away, such as


The Journeyman Project: Turbo

wafflemoose
Apr 10, 2009

The Repo Man posted:



It came with a CD of games that blew me away, such as


The Journeyman Project: Turbo

Finding ways to kill yourself in that game was half the fun. I seriously considered doing an LP of this game but couldn't figure out how get screen recording software to work with my VM.

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Jun 22, 2004

The Repo Man posted:

I don't know if this is old enough for the thread, but I remember this whole series coming on a demo CD. I'm sure I've probably still got it somewhere...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ej0E-rfx8K0


Also, my first memory of our Hewlett Packard Bell Win95 computer.



It came with a CD of games that blew me away, such as


The Journeyman Project: Turbo

I had both that computer and game.

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