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Well, everyone will be playing green black control where I play now. Both variants are pretty annoying. Feel like black white is bad against them and it's going to be that plus esper dragons everywhere and grundy games forever.
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Oh yeah, WB is good at controlling the game and then winning when your opponent is frustrated and has run out of spells. The BG decks don't run out of spells.
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Apr 24, 2016 09:11
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lsv getting torn apart by last year's standard deck
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Lancelot posted:lsv getting torn apart by last year's standard deck I feel like the 12:4 land/spell ratio didn't really help.
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Apr 24, 2016 09:26
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Brought the GB Rites deck to a GPT today. Go 1-3 and a bye with losses against Jund, Temur Ramp (getting them down to 1 in both games before they gain 10 life with a Offshoot+Nissa's Renewal, multiple times) and WW. When the deck craps out, it craps out hard.
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Apr 24, 2016 11:30
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Lets Pickle posted:Even if it is, what cards are even playable that exile instant/sorceries? I guess if the deck gets to be too much people will start playing Invasive Surgery/Pick the Brain against it. That seems like pretty sick tech if you can get Delirium. I mean exile the creatures, leaving no way for it to actually win.
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Here's the whole Premier Play announcement: http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/ptsoi/2016-and-2017-premier-play-updates-announced-at-ptsoi-2016-04-24 Modern gone as a PT format, as mentioned. Still around in PTQs though. Pretty big Hall of Famer and Platinum pro appearance fee related changes. Worlds prize pool goes way up, $500k in 2017 with $100k for the winner. Starting PT Honolulu PTQs, paper RPTQs award four slots regardless of size. One extra European RPTQ (Italy).
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Apr 24, 2016 11:51
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Its like they realized "oh poo poo, our HOF is too big now, cut everyone's pay!"
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GoutPatrol posted:Its like they realized "oh poo poo, our HOF is too big now, cut everyone's pay!" lol yup. Waiting for the day they realize they can't give them all PT invites but still want some of them to come.
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What does the value loop for Finkel's deck look like, and how much mana is needed to do it in one turn?
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Apr 24, 2016 12:11
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Woah Finkel lost to Bant Company? LSV also lose?
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Apr 24, 2016 12:14
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Dark Petition for Seasons Past -> Seasons Past to get back a tonne of stuff including Dark Petition. Since Seasons Past goes back to your library you can do it again any number of times. The loop costs 8 mana but it gets you a lot of stuff.
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Apr 24, 2016 12:15
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Alaan posted:Woah Finkel lost to Bant Company? LSV also lose? Yeah, they were bad matchups for both of them. Finkel's deck was a next-level meta deck; it beats the anti-CoCo decks rather than the CoCo decks. I guess this is why the rest of the team did so poorly; Finkel 6-0ed in draft so was able to avoid most of the CoCo decks, whereas the others came up against more CoCo in the lower brackets.
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Apr 24, 2016 12:28
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KidDynamite posted:How thick is the playmat? Debating pulling the trigger on the Hanna, Ship's Navigator. It's normal playmat thickness. Now I'm going to have to get a playmat protector, though. Do they even make those? Anil Dikshit fucked around with this message at 12:42 on Apr 24, 2016 |
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Apr 24, 2016 12:29
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kizudarake posted:It's normal playmat thickness. A playmat sleeve if you will... You can buy a tube case for them but I'm pretty sure that's it.
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Apr 24, 2016 12:46
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So they've stopped teasing upcoming sets during the PT?
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Rinkles posted:So they've stopped teasing upcoming sets during the PT? They normally do that on the last day of the PT, don't they? So probably later today.
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Count Bleck posted:They normally do that on the last day of the PT, don't they? They didn't last pt, as far as i remember
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Announcements for sets vary pretty wildly. There was almost a two month difference between khans and battle announcement.
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The Platinum changes seem really bad for younger pros that don't have a regular job and a few of them are already talking about quitting
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Barry Shitpeas posted:The Platinum changes seem really bad for younger pros that don't have a regular job and a few of them are already talking about quitting I mean the entire platinum gravy train was something obviously not sustainable, and probably shouldn't have ever existed
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Apr 24, 2016 13:56
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I don't think this is well considered. Preparing for and going to a PT is a very time-consuming process. And you can't just guarantee you'll get an outstanding result. The appearance fee is supposed to soften the blow to pros, and now it's basically dead. People can't just sacrifice two weeks of work, or school, or whatever, for no recompense.
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Apr 24, 2016 13:59
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Ah good, Bant Company in the finals. Good.
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Count Bleck posted:Ah good, Bant Company in the finals. eh, the sheer variety of decks in the top 8 makes me be less hateful towards Bant CoCo making finals
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Apr 24, 2016 15:48
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{Insert picture of Blizzard jizzing their pants over this OP update.}
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lol i think andrea mengucchi just killed himself on accident
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mandatory lesbian posted:lol i think andrea mengucchi just killed himself on accident Perfect way to end the Pro Tour. Mengucci dies to incorrect blocking. Edit: There was actually no way for Mengucci to live if Steve was smart. Even if none of his creatures die in combat, he just activates Abbey post-combat to force the Avacyn flip for the win.
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Jeez, Wizards is doing everything it can to kill organized play. I mean there's a bit of hyperbole there but cutting around 90% of the incentive to make it to the Professional level is a pretty stupid move. I wonder how much of this is coming from the new CEO and how much has been in the works for a while.
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Bant Company loses. I kinda wish it has run so I could have played https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww5GXbk58R0
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qbert posted:Perfect way to end the Pro Tour. Mengucci dies to incorrect blocking. "if Steve was smart" seemed to be asking a lot judging the way he navigated those last two games
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mcmagic posted:Top 8ed states with Brad Nelson's ramp deck. I put this together too, it's a fun rear end deck.
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Skyl3lazer posted:"if Steve was smart" seemed to be asking a lot judging the way he navigated those last two games He punted one game by getting ahead of himself and going on tilt from there. He even admitted in the interview that he screwed that game up hard. I don't know what you think he did wrong in game 4.
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Well modern should start the steady decline of getting cheaper since it won't have a PT. WOTC seems to have pulled a  with the eldrazi winter to justify pulling it from the PT. Actually I don't believe WOTC is that competent, but it does seem very convenient.
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I'm legitimately happy that there seem to be ways to beat every deck in the meta, even if no one was playing flaying tendrils this weekend and Tokens decks took advantage. We might finally be in a world where there's more than 3 top decks at any one time!
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Sickening posted:Well modern should start the steady decline of getting cheaper since it won't have a PT. WOTC seems to have pulled a i did not watch the coverage and will not so I am going to assume that they are pulling modern for Pauper PTs. I will not hear anything to the contrary
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Barry Shitpeas posted:The Platinum changes seem really bad for younger pros that don't have a regular job and a few of them are already talking about quitting I mean, it always seemed like the money involved in Magic is pretty paltry to begin with (particularly given it costs thousands to play on a professional level since you have to fly everywhere and buy meta-decks constantly). Hell, Frank Lepore didn't even show up to the PT because he went to attend another event he was hoping would lead to him getting a full-time job that presumably pays better.
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Sickening posted:Well modern should start the steady decline of getting cheaper since it won't have a PT. God willing. Did they actually state that three bad months of Modern play were enough to take it off the PT? If so  VV Sample size of 1 and all, but the thought of watching people play Magic on camera has almost no appeal to me. Obviously there are people who do enjoy it though. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Apr 24, 2016 |
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Is viewership of the PTs even really that high? It seems like the vast majority of people who buy Magic cards probably don't really give a poo poo about it. And of those who do, I doubt that many of them care how much the appearance fee is. Anyway, it'll be interesting to see how and if the quality of play drops (or how that can even be measured). At least the WotC write-up on the changes includes the old amounts so we don't have to go hunting them down. Ah, cold business math.
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C-Euro posted:God willing. Did they actually state that three bad months of Modern play were enough to take it off the PT? If so Pros bitching was a part of it I assume. Standard makes wotc the most money and I assume they were looking for a reason to begin with. Hell, the only reason they brought it back was because of its popularity. Considering they then made the format worse than it has ever been before at the height of its popularity was mind boggling. Actually no, it's clear now. Someone has finally decided that they don't know how to shake up the format without loving it up.
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