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goddamnedtwisto posted:What? No they won't, everybody knows mid-term local council elections are completely meaningless when it comes to Westminster, and vice versa - look at how well the Lib Dems have always done despite rounding-error polling nationally. Local issues always prevail, so national polling is meaningless in predicting swing. It'll probably be unpleasant for them but I'd be surprised if it'll be the wipeout being predicted. There may not be any mechanism to oust him directly but I'm certain the blairites in the PLP would seize it as an opportunity to pressure him into going: there'd be a concerted campaign of the usual suspects telling every media outlet that will listen for days on end that Corbyn's been rejected by the electorate regardless of what the membership wants and we need new leadership, whether local elections reflect Westminster performance or not.
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Pork Pie Hat posted:If you're drinking rum and it's not I drink this for the label and name alone. I can't tell if it's good rum but I enjoy it.
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Puntification posted:There may not be any mechanism to oust him directly but I'm certain the blairites in the PLP would seize it as an opportunity to pressure him into going: there'd be a concerted campaign of the usual suspects telling every media outlet that will listen for days on end that Corbyn's been rejected by the electorate regardless of what the membership wants and we need new leadership, whether local elections reflect Westminster performance or not. And I have no doubt that in this case he would shrug and carry on and give zero fucks as he has been doing up till now. Hell, even if they forced another leadership election he'd win again, and be even firmer in his position as a result.
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Steve2911 posted:I drink this for the label and name alone. I can't tell if it's good rum but I enjoy it. Sane here, I like the bottle too.
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Milotic posted:Ignoring the PLP, is he divisive in the wider Labour party or general electorate? That said, he's not a great manager. He needs to get a better media team around him, and a better handle on some things. Otherwise he's not going to be able to cope with all the demands and threads that go on during the run up to a General Election. He's in the Gordon Brown camp of 'not being good at responding to events'. He's not divisive in the party. If he were, he wouldn't have smashed the living poo poo out of the leadership election in one of the biggest landslides in leadership election history. In general I think he has a lot more public support than his media presence would indicate. But he's also faced with the major problem, if you want to call it that, of his responses to events not being reported fairly - because they're longer and more considered and less sound-bite-able than the papers are used to, and because the papers have a distinct set against him anyway, even the nominally-leftie ones which are by and large full of blairites. He's divisive among the upper echelons, perhaps, but among the base of the party, not so much. I'm very much of the belief that the best media team in the world couldn't make him more palatable to the media at large, because they're not interested in making him palatable, they're interested in character assassination at every possible turn, and if they don't have anything to go on, they'll just fabricate some nonsense about his dress sense or his cat or not bowing his head low enough at the Remembrance ceremony or whatever.
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ThomasPaine posted:And I have no doubt that in this case he would shrug and carry on and give zero fucks as he has been doing up till now. Hell, even if they forced another leadership election he'd win again, and be even firmer in his position as a result. I am probably being overly alarmist about this but I don't see them stopping til he's gone and even if he ignores it they seem more than willing to sabotage his chances as much as they can.
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So BHS is collapsing. The start of the next credit crunch? To be fair it sounds a lot like it's falling apart for the same reason as Peacocks did - people bought it, rinsed it, sold it.
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Taear posted:So BHS is collapsing. The start of the next credit crunch? Also it's poo poo
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ThomasPaine posted:And I have no doubt that in this case he would shrug and carry on and give zero fucks as he has been doing up till now. Hell, even if they forced another leadership election he'd win again, and be even firmer in his position as a result. The challenge would be to get MPs to nominate him again. He literally scraped in in like the last ten minutes this time. But the rules are weird on this; the party's rules about leadership elections don't account for the idea that an incumbent would have to defend leadership from a challenge, so they imply but don't outright state that the incumbent would run automatically in that case. However, the impact on the party membership at large from any election in which he or an appointed successor wasn't able to run would be huge, they'd lose vast numbers of members. And this would be taken as a tacit acknowledgement that leftist socialism doesn't work and we'd go back to Tories and slightly less Tories forever. I think there was talk about clarifying the rules in the event of a leadership challenge last year, but I don't know that it went anywhere. Taear posted:So BHS is collapsing. The start of the next credit crunch? It might be symptomatic of a coming (or indeed, already-commenced) crunch, but it's not causative.
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It's also probably not gonna cause a run on department stores unless they are all touting BHS debt as assets or whatever.
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StoneOfShame posted:Its not a great rum really, diplomatico reserva especial as mentioned is excellent and probably the best value for money sipping rum about, if you wanna spend more Zacapa XO is excellent. I got given a bottle of diplomatico vintage 2000 and it is the best booze I have ever drank.
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thespaceinvader posted:Not the next big crunch, almost certainly. BHS has been limping for some time AFAICT, this doesn't surprise me in the least, and it won't cause a crunch any more than Woolworth's did. I didn't say it was going to cause it. But in the same way as Woolworths was the first casualty before everything started going really badly.
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thespaceinvader posted:The challenge would be to get MPs to nominate him again. He literally scraped in in like the last ten minutes this time. If they prevented him running in another contest via some contrived procedural technicality Labour would either face open rebellion amongst the membership or it would implode completely and they'd all bail. I like to think that even the most Blairite members of the PLP aren't stupid enough to let this happen - their whole schtick is 'electability' and nothing would sabotage 2020 (and therefore their own careers) like forcing the party into meltdown.
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ThomasPaine posted:If they prevented him running in another contest via some contrived procedural technicality Labour would either face open rebellion amongst the membership or it would implode completely and they'd all bail. I like to think that even the most Blairite members of the PLP aren't stupid enough to let this happen - their whole schtick is 'electability' and nothing would sabotage 2020 (and therefore their own careers) like forcing the party into meltdown. The impression I get of them is that they can't see it that way, they're ideologically incapable of believing that any way but their own is electable, so they're more than willing to gently caress Corbyn in order to get their way, even when their way seems self-evidently dumb as gently caress to people who aren't stuck in the PLP bubble. I can absolutely see the likes of Simon Danczuk and Liz Kendall loving up the Labour party to further their own ends. And getting ringing support from the Graun for doing so.
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Steve2911 posted:I drink this for the label and name alone. I can't tell if it's good rum but I enjoy it. I'm a big fan of rums and that's one of my favorites in the 'sensibly priced' range.
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DrWrestling69 posted:I got given a bottle of diplomatico vintage 2000 and it is the best booze I have ever drank. Had a bottle of that when I was working at last years rum in brum festival, it was glorious, bit of a pain to get now if you can at all, not sure what the 2001 is like may have to get a bottle, I also need to drink the ambassador bottling but it is very expensive.
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Dark Matter's quite nice. My bar actually has a massive selection of rums and I've never properly gone exploring.
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Coohoolin posted:Dark Matter's quite nice. My bar actually has a massive selection of rums and I've never properly gone exploring. Dark matter is shite.
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StoneOfShame posted:Had a bottle of that when I was working at last years rum in brum festival, it was glorious, bit of a pain to get now if you can at all, not sure what the 2001 is like may have to get a bottle, I also need to drink the ambassador bottling but it is very expensive. https://twitter.com/LR1872/status/723822923765690368 £196. Welp.
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I have a feeling some new labour mps and some of the more centrist new tories (didnt some speak against such harsh cuts to benefits?) would could see eye to eye in a new center-right tory lite party.
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Judging by the space in that bin I'd wager his local council still do weekly collections and thus his area is very desirable to live in.
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Isn't the brown bin for grass cuttings and other gardening related waste, or does that vary by area?
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My garden waste bin is green.
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serious gaylord posted:Judging by the space in that bin I'd wager his local council still do weekly collections and thus his area is very desirable to live in. His twitter bio says he is from Kilmarnock. You have wagered poorly
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I too have a green garden waste bin, but I have to pay the council an extra £32 per year to collect it.
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DrWrestling69 posted:His twitter bio says he is from Kilmarnock. You have wagered poorly Any area with weekly bin collections is a desirable area in this age of fortnightly and even monthly collections.
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More frequent collections just means I have to remember to drag bags out the front more often. Do it yearly.
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Pissflaps posted:My garden waste bin is green.
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Guavanaut posted:Green is recyclables here. Black is general waste. Brown is an optional gardening waste one that costs 50p a week. My general waste bin is black as is the recycling bin but that bin has a blue lid. We have weekly collections of general waste and don't pay a surcharge for anything.
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 That's our rum selection and I don't even know what most of those are, but we do have Ron De Jeremy and Diplomatico.
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Goondolences on your awful workplace.
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Steve2911 posted:More frequent collections just means I have to remember to drag bags out the front more often. Pffft. I'm taking my rubbish to my grave.
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Wales has five bins (Non-recyclable Waste, Biodegradable, Plastics + Metal, Glass and Paper) and we get the recyclables collected every week and Non-recyclable every fortnight. It's madness I tell you, I don't know how we survive.
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Fans posted:Wales has five bins (Non-recyclable Waste, Biodegradable, Plastics + Metal, Glass and Paper) and we get the recyclables collected every week and Non-recyclable every fortnight. It's madness I tell you, I don't know how we survive. Bins ? In Cardiff we have plastic bags - Green recyclable (weekly), Pink/Browny colour Non-recyclable(2-weekly) and a Tiny bin for bio-waste (weekly).. and you have to use the proper council-provided bags as well
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Junior doctors’ strike set to go ahead as Hunt rejects compromise Junior doctors' strikes: Jeremy Hunt rejects plan to pilot contract I'm liking the movement of the narrative. Jeremy Hunt has painted himself into a corner and now looks unreasonable and stubborn. His position is getting harder and harder to defend.
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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:I have no idea what this man is doing or saying. He's in his loving bin, man
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