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Something to note about Iudex Gundyr he does not have a soul. Note that when you kill Champion Gundyr, you get his soul. Now, Iudex Gundyr lacks a soul, and has that black parasite thing infesting the wound made by the coil sword. I'm not sure the significance of this is, but it seems to fit; the Hollows who have the black parasite likely also have lost their souls by this point, allowing whatever this is to run amok. A being born of the Dark Soul? It's always a snake too.
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I should just assume every enemy in the game can kill me in two hits or one combo after Lothric, shouldn't I.
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Apr 24, 2016 22:32
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Sakurazuka posted:The final version of Gundyr didn't have all those swords on the ground right? Shame that was cool. i assume it was going to be like the curse statues, that every death to him would leave a sword
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Apr 24, 2016 22:32
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Captain Oblivious posted:Ocelotte is the youngest child of Oceiros, born after he became a hosed up dragon man due to Seath worship and whatever the hell else he was up to. Ocelotte is, presumably, the source of the strange warbling dragon baby noises you hear until the second phase of the fight. So he forgot that he was carrying him around into melee, and still freaks out when we collaterally kill it? Gold parenting there. Raises the question if he still freaks out if you do damage to, like, his tail only.
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Apr 24, 2016 22:33
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Something to note about Iudex Gundyr he does not have a soul. Note that when you kill Champion Gundyr, you get his soul. Now, Iudex Gundyr lacks a soul, and has that black parasite thing infesting the wound made by the coil sword. I'm not sure the significance of this is, but it seems to fit; the Hollows who have the black parasite likely also have lost their souls by this point, allowing whatever this is to run amok. A being born of the Dark Soul? It's always a snake too. Literally every other boss gives a soul when you kill them, so you're probably on to something. So this would mean he got infected because you took his soul when you defeated him in Untended Graves?
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Apr 24, 2016 22:33
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Something to note about Iudex Gundyr he does not have a soul. Note that when you kill Champion Gundyr, you get his soul. Now, Iudex Gundyr lacks a soul, and has that black parasite thing infesting the wound made by the coil sword. I'm not sure the significance of this is, but it seems to fit; the Hollows who have the black parasite likely also have lost their souls by this point, allowing whatever this is to run amok. A being born of the Dark Soul? It's always a snake too. He doesn't have a soul because you already took it
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Apr 24, 2016 22:34
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Wagrid posted:Literally every other boss gives a soul when you kill them, so you're probably on to something. So this would mean he got infected because you took his soul when you defeated him in Untended Graves? Souls in these games don't tend to have factional affiliations, but I feel like a soul, which is a flame, is related to the first flame. The absence of one may provide a means for the Dark to fester in. I think the best way to look at it is that at a certain point "below" the surface of the game world we see in DS3, the Abyss is slowly rising and swallowing things up. The Untended Graves are a place below the water mark. As such, it could simply mean that your Firelink Shrine is a location built higher up, either in an esoteric or literal sense, so that there's always a way to keep trying to rekindle the flame.
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Apr 24, 2016 22:36
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Wagrid posted:Literally every other boss gives a soul when you kill them, so you're probably on to something. So this would mean he got infected because you took his soul when you defeated him in Untended Graves? Ancient Wyvern doesn't.
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Apr 24, 2016 22:36
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Sakurazuka posted:Ancient Wyvern doesn't. Well there goes that theory.
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Apr 24, 2016 22:38
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I just got invaded by a guy who healed without using estus or spells and parried me without me doing an attack or blocking. 
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Apr 24, 2016 22:39
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8-Bit Scholar posted:Souls in these games don't tend to have factional affiliations, but I feel like a soul, which is a flame, is related to the first flame. The absence of one may provide a means for the Dark to fester in. Quoth the intro to Dark Souls: quote:Then from the dark, They came, and found the Souls of Lords within the flame. Nito, the First of the Dead, The Witch of Izalith and her Daughters of Chaos, Gwyn, the Lord of Sunlight, and his faithful knights. And the Furtive Pygmy, so easily forgotten. If we assume the Furtive Pygmy was Manus, which seems like a pretty safe conclusion, then the Abyss and the Dark are also connected to a Lord Soul and thus to the Flame. The absence of a soul should be associated with dragons and the age prior to the discovery of the Flame. The Flame brought disparity - light and dark - when the Lords claimed souls. Like you say, souls are associated with both sides of that conflict. I think it's totally possible we're dealing with dragons somehow and not the Abyss when we see those shadow snakes. Or maybe Gundyr doesn't drop a boss soul because he's the tutorial boss and you get his soul for his stuff later in the game, and we're reading too heavily into a mechanical decision. Baku fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Apr 24, 2016 |
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Apr 24, 2016 22:41
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Babe Magnet posted:I Did Die 4 U the identity of the first firekeeper, revealed at last: 
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Apr 24, 2016 22:41
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Aside from the statues in the Archives are there any more indications or returning aspects of the primordial serpents? Also what was the deal with the black snake things? Just a product of the corruption of the abyss?
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Apr 24, 2016 22:43
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Does the game censor account names, or just character names? Made a Knight Hodrick PSN account for cosplay+pvp+griefqueef and I'm trying to make up a good non-Knight name because K***ht Hodrick is pretty poo poo to have displayed when you want to make people think a surprise NPC invasion happened.
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Apr 24, 2016 22:44
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Insurrectionist posted:I think you mean Oceloooooootte! I had this same reaction
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RedHotKick posted:Aside from the statues in the Archives are there any more indications or returning aspects of the primordial serpents? Yuria of Londor, who shows up if you accept a bunch of free levels from Yoel before he dies is a servant of Kaathe. RedHotKick posted:Also what was the deal with the black snake things? Just a product of the corruption of the abyss? There's a conversation about this going on on this very page!
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Apr 24, 2016 22:44
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RedHotKick posted:Aside from the statues in the Archives are there any more indications or returning aspects of the primordial serpents? a character says one of their names when they die.
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Apr 24, 2016 22:45
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Zombies' Downfall posted:I think it's totally possible we're dealing with dragons somehow and not the Abyss when we see those shadow snakes. Or maybe Gundyr doesn't drop a boss soul because he's the tutorial boss and you get his soul for his stuff later in the game, and we're reading too heavily into a mechanical decision. it's the abyss you dummy go read the artorias armour descriptions the abyss is a gross slimy black oil
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Apr 24, 2016 22:45
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Can anyone who's properly messed around with the Caestus tell me how worth it it is? I've gotten mixed results with my STR build with a Heavy Caestus. The ridiculous attack rate and tiny stamina cost seem great, but actually stacking up damage or killing dudes in PvP seems difficult.
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Wagrid posted:Literally every other boss gives a soul when you kill them, so you're probably on to something. So this would mean he got infected because you took his soul when you defeated him in Untended Graves? The sword from his chest ignites the firelink bonfire, so maybe his soul is in the blade somehow? And since you rip it out, he is free to get abyssed or something...
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The Shady Lady mound-maker NPC fight in the Road of Sacrifices is so far my favorite invasion in DS3. She isn't quite hostile, but you're not sure. Plus she does a bunch of gestures if you just leave her alone. Finally, for the first time in Dark Souls, I used a cracked red eye orb and invaded a dude. He was slumming it in the poison swamp of Farron with a white coop buddy, and were making their way to the first fire pillar where I had conveniently spawned at. I waited for them to make their way up, watched his buddy come up and kill a goat demon, whereupon I rushed out and started swinging at him, hitting the host too who had come up to use a heal spell for both of them. Killed the summon, and got into a long drawn out fight with the host who was using an Estoc and downing Estus left and right, until he switched to his shield. I got him to half, he stabbed me twice bringing me to 5% hp. I backpedaled, he got greedy and chased me so I gave him a solid 5 hit combo with my Astora sword and killed him, right as a bluecop was spawning in. He then sent me a salty message over PSN  I also got invaded by a Wolf of Farron using the dark sword, but I'm sitting on 20 vigor so I let him do his combo before demolishing him with my own follow-up. So far the Wolves have been pretty bad at PvP I'm also kind of disappointed with the Dancer's Twinswords, I think I'll shelved them and wait for the Gotthard, which are apparently more for STR than DEX?
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:it's the abyss you dummy go read the artorias armour descriptions ya but the assertion that the "dark gets in" when you take something's soul doesn't make sense. abyssal creatures have souls.
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i tried to set up a game for the usurpation ending. i got the levels from Yoel til he died but I don't have any Dark Sigils in my inventory. Did I do something wrong or is this inconsequential to the ending?
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Zombies' Downfall posted:If we assume the Furtive Pygmy was Manus, which seems like a pretty safe conclusion, then the Abyss and the Dark are also connected to a Lord Soul and thus to the Flame. Actually I think you'll find based on my twenty page write up of incredibly tenuous evidence that Velka is the Pygmy and also married to the Pygmy and also Gwyn's wife and also his secret daughter and also that Big Crow and also the narrator.
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the abyss takes you over drives you mad and mutates ur rear end and eventually when poo poo gets bad enough with the fire it becomes a "living" thing
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Apr 24, 2016 22:48
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Pickle Pee.
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TheQat posted:i tried to set up a game for the usurpation ending. i got the levels from Yoel til he died but I don't have any Dark Sigils in my inventory. Did I do something wrong or is this inconsequential to the ending? It's under key items.
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Digital_Jesus posted:Pickle Pee. Pump a rump
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TheQat posted:i tried to set up a game for the usurpation ending. i got the levels from Yoel til he died but I don't have any Dark Sigils in my inventory. Did I do something wrong or is this inconsequential to the ending? Im pretty sure that goes in the key items slot, not standard inventory
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Zombies' Downfall posted:ya but the assertion that the "dark gets in" when you take something's soul doesn't make sense. abyssal creatures have souls. In that light, it actually makes a lot of sense then. If something still has a soul, abyss cant get in cause theres already a soul in there. If you remove the soul, the vessel is empty, and can be occupied by an abyssal soul. Or something. Its late.
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Apr 24, 2016 22:49
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crows are the best part of dark souls and i wish there was a crow boss
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TheQat posted:i tried to set up a game for the usurpation ending. i got the levels from Yoel til he died but I don't have any Dark Sigils in my inventory. Did I do something wrong or is this inconsequential to the ending? Did your character turn into beef jerky before Yoel died?
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Fereydun posted:the identity of the first firekeeper, revealed at last: I now want to do a Prince inspired cosplay run but I'm gonna need some advice on what sets to wear.
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RedHotKick posted:crows are the best part of dark souls and i wish there was a crow boss Normies GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Tamayachi posted:Did your character turn into beef jerky before Yoel died? o yeah thx for the replies above, i forgot key items existed
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YOU! YOU! GIVE US... BLOOOOOOOOD
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Zombies' Downfall posted:Or maybe Gundyr doesn't drop a boss soul because he's the tutorial boss and you get his soul for his stuff later in the game, and we're reading too heavily into a mechanical decision. our lord and savior miyazaki would never do something so brash and meaningless!
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Apr 24, 2016 22:52
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Well you get both the Last Giant/Giant Lord's souls...
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so in these games when you light the flame is it assumed the universe like resets and there aren't any horrors or undead shambling around or whatever or does lighting the flame pretty much just sort of temporarily revive a basically dead world
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I just got to the SOTFS remix of DS2's Iron Keep and I take back everything positive that I said about that game over this one.
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