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HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


Jack2142 posted:

I saved the Inquisitor from the chaos fleet so that felt good since it seems like people had problems with that. Although I can't catch the Eldar for poo poo though.

Mine got out with 25 HP left. I kinda wish it was harder, since in canon I don't think the thing even got to the Inquisitor.

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Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


Arglebargle III posted:

The realest chat: what embarrassingly nerdy poo poo are you naming your ships?

In the Campaign I'm naming several ships after "Famous Ships of the Gothic War" in the original tabletop rule book, such as Baron Surtur and Incendrius. A few others are named after ships from Passage Watch 27-Est (aka Battlefleet Koronus) from the Rogue Trader RPG such as Swiftsure and Sirius (Bonus points for the latters profile mentioning it was a veteran of the Gothic War).

And a last couple are named after ships from a Rogue Trader game I played in for several years. Absolution and Saint Drusus' Fire. Too bad we can't name escorts then again Destroyer of All Boundaries probably wouldn't fit.

Even in the RPG we knew the best way to deal with Eldar arrogance was to smash a triple-layered, adamantine armored prow into their dainty faces. :black101:

Forums Terrorist
Dec 8, 2011

Arglebargle III posted:

The realest chat: what embarrassingly nerdy poo poo are you naming your ships?

I got:

Light of Terra
Implacable Retribution
Divine Mandate


Void Siren
Ghost of Bel'Shiar
Whim of Fate
Masque of Chegoragh


Da Fist Uv Gork
Da Uvva Fist Uv Gork

it has a certain direct charm

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE

Arglebargle III posted:

The realest chat: what embarrassingly nerdy poo poo are you naming your ships?

I got:

Light of Terra
Implacable Retribution
Divine Mandate


Void Siren
Ghost of Bel'Shiar
Whim of Fate
Masque of Chegoragh


I've always wanted a ship in a game called Memories of the Future but I can never decide what faction is the best for that. Probably Eldar.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

OpenlyEvilJello posted:

I am 90% sure there are rules for exactly this in Rogue Trader (the TTRPG). e: Yes, for Da Wurldbreaka (ork battleship), Edge of the Abyss, page 56.


My RT group's Dauntless is the Inexorable Destiny of Mankind to Triumph in the Name of the Immortal God-Emperor and His Holy Imperium. Figured "maximally overwrought" fit the setting. I am looking for something to name Xeno's Paradox as well, although that might better suit a power sword.

I was thinking of Rejoice for In Service to the Emperor Lies Your Salvation but it didn't fit.

Tracula posted:

I've always wanted a ship in a game called Memories of the Future but I can never decide what faction is the best for that. Probably Eldar.

That's totally the Eldar's deal since the Craftworld Eldar are all about scrying the future to survive (with varying degrees of success) and Eldar Corsairs are just Craftworld Eldar that couldn't hack it.

I'm convinced the reason favors cost more for the bigger ships is the paint. A battleship is what, 10 kilometers long? That's a lot of paint.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

The music for this game was getting repetitive so I made a Pandora station from Toccata and Fugue in D Minor and it's fairly appropriate.

Also, Gothic Chant strangely enough. It's mostly in minor keys.

Arglebargle III fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Apr 24, 2016

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

OpenlyEvilJello posted:

My RT group's Dauntless is the Inexorable Destiny of Mankind to Triumph in the Name of the Immortal God-Emperor and His Holy Imperium. Figured "maximally overwrought" fit the setting. I am looking for something to name Xeno's Paradox as well, although that might better suit a power sword.

Mine's was Victoria aut Mortis. It was handy because that ship was some heavy Dark Age of Technology poo poo that warranted a person name for talking to her.

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
Really enjoying my dual Tyrants with ranged upgrades and armored prow :black101:

Hypha
Sep 13, 2008

:commissar:
You know, the automation for skills is pretty good. If I set the torpedoes to be automatic, by the time I usually want to fire, the AI has already fired them. Nova cannons also respond very well but they have a habit of taking the shot despite friendlies. I just figured that it was very thematic to the theme, may the Emperor forgive all those Dauntless kills my Dominators seem to get. Good thing something heavier always goes up with them.

Minera
Sep 26, 2007

All your friends and foes,
they thought they knew ya,
but look who's in your heart now.

Hypha posted:

You know, the automation for skills is pretty good. If I set the torpedoes to be automatic, by the time I usually want to fire, the AI has already fired them. Nova cannons also respond very well but they have a habit of taking the shot despite friendlies. I just figured that it was very thematic to the theme, may the Emperor forgive all those Dauntless kills my Dominators seem to get. Good thing something heavier always goes up with them.

It makes the game really newbie friendly and casual, which is imo a good thing. Sure it's not the best automation, but a shield used to block 20 damage or whatever is probably better than me being too busy to use it, ever, and absorbing no damage! :v:

NLJP
Aug 26, 2004


Forums Terrorist posted:

Da Fist Uv Gork
Da Uvva Fist Uv Gork

it has a certain direct charm

This I like

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE
Finished the campaign and I really enjoyed it throughout. The final cutscenes are, if anything, even shoutier than the ones that went before, and all the better for it.

Mukip
Jan 27, 2011

by Reene
I spent the better half of Sunday playing games with Octamurk. I started with a level 1 Retribution that I wanted to rank up, to see if the buffs had made it any better. 32 matches later, I ended up with this monster:



The Crown of Destiny is unstoppable. It has chewed through nearly half a dozen Chaos battleships and countless smaller vessels. It even killed an Eldar battleship (with some help). The only time it ran into serious trouble was when an Ork battleship with a full compliment of boarding torpedos and launch bays destroyed literally every system on the sship (weapons, everything), forcing it to warp out while OctaMurk sacrified his entire fleet to save it for me. But that was before I got the Astartes favour and Belt Armour so things might be different next time.

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE

John Charity Spring posted:

Finished the campaign and I really enjoyed it throughout. The final cutscenes are, if anything, even shoutier than the ones that went before, and all the better for it.

For some reason and somehow 40k games usually have really good voice acting. Even if it's terrible, stupid and over-the-top it works 95% of the time.

Bizarre Echo
Jul 1, 2011

"I am pleased that we have differences. May we together become greater than the sum of both of us."
Is anyone having trouble with crashing? Twice now the games given an error and stopped, which wouldn't be so much of a problem except that it seems to count those missions as losses and advance the campaign. I've lost both of the artifacts that way and it's frustrating me.

TwatHammer
Sep 29, 2014

Thats a pretty good battleship right there friend. I'm on ranking my Eldar fleet up and oh boy is it fun. Sitting on a level 4 voidstalker which i dont think has bitten the dust yet.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Just rolled a 300 point breakthrough attacker against Eldar. No problem, just get some light cruisers and smash through their defenses, right? WRONG. Turns out I got an AI ally who brought a Gothic and Dauntless, and the Eldar brought a battleship, battlecruiser, cruiser and a couple of escorts. Naturally the AI Gothic was useless and their pulsars tore us to shreds.

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


Did anyone else notice this? :v:





Also, I've yet to play multiplayer, maybe I should try joining up with another goon.

Galaga Galaxian fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Apr 25, 2016

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Galaga Galaxian posted:

Did anyone else notice this? :v:





Also, I've yet to play multiplayer, maybe I should try joining up with another goon.

Sup?

Magni
Apr 29, 2009

Galaga Galaxian posted:

Did anyone else notice this? :v:





Also, I've yet to play multiplayer, maybe I should try joining up with another goon.

It's a shout-out to a /tg/ meme:

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE
I can't hate devs of 40k games acknowledging chan memes. It's how we actually got this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrrCY7dgaqs

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

Mukip posted:

The only time it ran into serious trouble was when an Ork battleship with a full compliment of boarding torpedos and launch bays destroyed literally every system on the sship (weapons, everything), forcing it to warp out while OctaMurk sacrified his entire fleet to save it for me.

For the Emprah!!!

Yeah, the retribution is a legit ship now. If only they would buff the Dictator, at 157 points I couldnt justify it even though ordnance spam was the greatest danger we encountered

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Are cruiser/battlecruiser lances messed up in value? Looking at the BCs it seems like their dorsal lances are equivalent to an entire broadside from a Gothic, and twice as powerful as a Lunar's broadside lances.

terrorist ambulance
Nov 5, 2009
Is it at all possible to save the hand of whatever and the Inquisitor's ship on wave three in that one campaign mission

If so how

Also what ships / upgrades are good in the campaign

Magni
Apr 29, 2009

terrorist ambulance posted:

Is it at all possible to save the hand of whatever and the Inquisitor's ship on wave three in that one campaign mission

If so how

Also what ships / upgrades are good in the campaign

Yes. He'll start warping out shortly after the wave spawned. You just have to keep them off his back long enough.

Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

terrorist ambulance posted:

Is it at all possible to save the hand of whatever and the Inquisitor's ship on wave three in that one campaign mission

If so how

Also what ships / upgrades are good in the campaign

Note the lack of ramming prows on chaos ships. Personally I dropped stasis bombs on the guys behind, rammed the hell of out the dudes in front whilst shooting them and semi-successfully pushing them into asteroid fields, then met the guys playing catch up literally head on.

Warbadger fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Apr 25, 2016

terrorist ambulance
Nov 5, 2009

Magni posted:

Yes. He'll start warping out shortly after the wave spawned. You just have to keep them off his back long enough.

That may explain the ??bug?? I had on that map, where the voiceover and animation looked like he'd survived and warped out, but it said "DEFEAT" at the end and said that we'd lost the artifact. I think he maybe died just as/before the script kicked in

AtillatheBum
Oct 6, 2010

Justice ain't gonna dispense itself.
Ran into my first cheater in the MP while playing a 2v2 with a friend


That cruiser has 8+ upgrades, and 4 or possibly more skills(SS got cut off a bit). He also managed to deploy a cruiser and 3 LCs into a 300 point game. Me and friend utterly wrecked his fleet though because his teammate(who wasn't cheating) deployed elsewhere and focused on killing platforms instead of us. Game gets down to the wire with all my ships destroyed or warped out and all of the cheater Imperials as well. Just Orks vs Orks at this point but my friend is way out of position and the last of the platforms go down. The enemy Ork makes for the escape zone with his last 2 line ships. One makes it out and we figure the game is lost because the 2nd one is on the other side of the map. Cut to screen of said Ork ship warping out and VICTORY plastered over our screens. Poor bastard warped out at the last second instead of just crossing the finish line which gives us the win. I'm not sure if it was an accident or the dude purposefully gave us the win but either way it was extremely satisfying.

Elderbean
Jun 10, 2013


What's generally a good fleet makeup for single player? Any tips on what to do with escorts/frigates/destroyers?

Klaus88
Jan 23, 2011

Violence has its own economy, therefore be thoughtful and precise in your investment

Tracula posted:

I can't hate devs of 40k games acknowledging chan memes. It's how we actually got this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrrCY7dgaqs

40k is one the few subjects the chans aren't completely terrible about. :shrug:

No, I don't get it either.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Elderbean posted:

What's generally a good fleet makeup for single player? Any tips on what to do with escorts/frigates/destroyers?

Against chaos you want options to fight at range, and a mix of guns and lances. Against Eldar you want more guns and less lances. Against Orks you want launch bays and lances. I think you want your points concentrated in the mostest biggestest ships possible as long as you can complete the objectives. Sometimes that means taking four light cruisers, sometimes a battleship and two cruisers.

Torpedoes are really good for beating down huge tough slow ships from beyond their range. Torpedoes are good against everything and once you figure out how to use them are the imperial Admiral's ace in the hole.

Frigates are good for covering your rear, scouting and covering convoy objectives. Destroyers are kinda bad because in tabletop you would take them as squadrons and only do scouting and combined torpedo salvos. In this game you pay a big attention tax for Cobra destroyers and it's probably not worth the micro.

Xae
Jan 19, 2005

Elderbean posted:

What's generally a good fleet makeup for single player? Any tips on what to do with escorts/frigates/destroyers?

Voss Pattern and +Shields on Sword (gunship) escorts with either Macro AP or Range. I normally take 3 ships of the line and then fill in the rest with Swords.

Firestorm you do the same thing except take a Lance upgrade instead of a turret upgrade.


Actually, on pretty much everything less than Battlecruiser Voss and the +Shields is great.

Light Cruiser base shields: 100 EHP
Light Cruiser with Voss and +Shields: 266 EHP

Escort base shields: 50 EHP
Escort with Voss and + Shields: 133 EHP

Your basic 1+1=3 game math.

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
Oh man. Orks in MP early is just unfun. Against chaos and eldar it's just about running the time down and then running away?

I tried spamming bombers, but it doesn't really do much.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Shooting and maneuvering etc feel great in this, but I wish there wasnt quite as much Tabletop faithfulness regarding the melee/boarding aspect. It just being dice rolls is kinda missing the opportunity for some cool poo poo, but then again I guess it has alot of potential to get too complicated anyways.

Like rather than having it be a Succeed/Fail roll, it'd be cool if you could send troops and they'd form a baseline to assault with them fighting vs the target ship's crew over time, with you able to send reinforcements etc to refresh the attacking party. So rather than just your ships farting out en masse, you get a sustained series of ships exchanged with assault troops vs the enemy. Break contact/range with the enemy, and their boarding guys wont get any reinforcements and rapidly lose men to the ship holder.

Dandywalken fucked around with this message at 03:44 on Apr 25, 2016

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Eh I think that's out of scale for this game. Even a frigate has somewhere between 20 and 30 thousand crew. And in 40K it's not like surrender is a realistic option. If the action became hopeless the enginseers would blow up the (holy) ship rather than see it captured by traitors or aliens.

nnnotime
Sep 30, 2001

Hesitate, and you will be lost.

AtillatheBum posted:

Ran into my first cheater in the MP while playing a 2v2 with a friend


That cruiser has 8+ upgrades, and 4 or possibly more skills(SS got cut off a bit). He also managed to deploy a cruiser and 3 LCs into a 300 point game. Me and friend utterly wrecked his fleet though because his teammate(who wasn't cheating) deployed elsewhere and focused on killing platforms instead of us. Game gets down to the wire with all my ships destroyed or warped out and all of the cheater Imperials as well. Just Orks vs Orks at this point but my friend is way out of position and the last of the platforms go down. The enemy Ork makes for the escape zone with his last 2 line ships. One makes it out and we figure the game is lost because the 2nd one is on the other side of the map. Cut to screen of said Ork ship warping out and VICTORY plastered over our screens. Poor bastard warped out at the last second instead of just crossing the finish line which gives us the win. I'm not sure if it was an accident or the dude purposefully gave us the win but either way it was extremely satisfying.
Saw of case of similar cheating reported on the official game forums:

http://forum.battlefleetgothic-armada.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2508&sid=b9b474c7ace502dcc25421cc30bba9a2

I wonder if the developers will do anything in response to help catch the cheaters? Perhaps check server logs for obviously unbalanced profile attributes? It would be great if they could detect a manipulated profile prior to being matched up, but wonder if that's too much to ask.

Or maybe if they implement a ladder system they can build in some cheat detection with it. I hope they also add the ability to invite friends into a game.

nnnotime fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Apr 25, 2016

pedro0930
Oct 15, 2012

Xae posted:

Voss Pattern and +Shields on Sword (gunship) escorts with either Macro AP or Range. I normally take 3 ships of the line and then fill in the rest with Swords.

Firestorm you do the same thing except take a Lance upgrade instead of a turret upgrade.


Actually, on pretty much everything less than Battlecruiser Voss and the +Shields is great.

Light Cruiser base shields: 100 EHP
Light Cruiser with Voss and +Shields: 266 EHP

Escort base shields: 50 EHP
Escort with Voss and + Shields: 133 EHP

Your basic 1+1=3 game math.

How does the improve shield regen upgrade stacks up with the other shield upgrade? Is it worth taking if you have all the other upgrades already?

Kalion
Jul 23, 2004

:gifttank:
Panzer vor!

Elderbean posted:

What's generally a good fleet makeup for single player? Any tips on what to do with escorts/frigates/destroyers?

Here's an example of what I beat the Campaign with on Normal.



For 600 point games I just took the Emperor and 2 Dominators, and for 700 point games I took both Mars and 2 Dominators. Depending on how good you are, early on you can grab some easy bonus renown by just taking Capital ships and not filling up the extra points with escorts, usually this means using something like a Dominator and a Dauntless light cruiser for those 300 point missions.

If you do choose to use Ordnance Bays, use the Reload command on auto to speed up the cooldown on the Bombers .

Arghy
Nov 15, 2012

Yeah i was thinking voss+regen because even 100 shields get taken down super fast and things like disruption bombs wound render those shields moot. Compared to just gaining those shields back faster.

The firestorm is a better choice overall i say though because of its accuracy. You can focus on survivability upgrades and instead of having 2 AP turrets you now have 1 AP turret that is 100% accurate at all engagement ranges. You have to deal with the front arc but you'll most likely be chasing people most of the time anyhow and you can set it to broadside which will cause it to swing the lance around. In the end 6k 100% accuracy against eldar, chaos, and orks. All of which you'll either be 6k away or want to.

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Arghy
Nov 15, 2012

Kalion posted:

Here's an example of what I beat the Campaign with on Normal.



For 600 point games I just took the Emperor and 2 Dominators, and for 700 point games I took both Mars and 2 Dominators. Depending on how good you are, early on you can grab some easy bonus renown by just taking Capital ships and not filling up the extra points with escorts, usually this means using something like a Dominator and a Dauntless light cruiser for those 300 point missions.

If you do choose to use Ordnance Bays, use the Reload command on auto to speed up the cooldown on the Bombers .

How the hell do you work with the nova cannon? its so loving terrible now. Its useless at short range and so absurdly inaccurate at long range then add the fact that now you can see its radius so only an idiot would not avoid it.

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