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I'm taking part in my first ITS tournament tomorrow morning. 300 pts, we'll be playing Supplies, Safe Area, Highly Classified, and Frontline (if needed). No SpecOps, and no new rules from HSN3 yet. This is the list I'm considering.  Draft 1────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1   10  JANISSARY HMG / Pistol, CCW. (2 | 40) SHIHAB REMOTE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25) GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) GHULAM (Forward Observer) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) AZRA'IL AP HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 41) LASIQ Viral Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26) FIDAY Boarding Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, Knife. (0 | 29) NAJJARUN Engineer Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17) NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) DJANBAZAN Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 27)GROUP 2 3 GHULAM Lieutenant Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) GHULAM Hacker (Hacking Device) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 20) GHULAM Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12)5.5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army It's probably terrible, so I welcome comments on it. I'm not very good at list building yet. Or playing really. This is a list of everything I currently own: http://pastebin.com/sEHsntUY
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Apr 23, 2016 22:57
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That Djan needs to be an HMG, not a rifle, or you're going to get hard locked by any form of TO sniper. Not a fan of the Jannisary HMG if you're already toting an Azrail AP HMG.
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Apr 23, 2016 23:10
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Corbeau posted:That Djan needs to be an HMG, not a rifle, or you're going to get hard locked by any form of TO sniper. Not a fan of the Jannisary HMG if you're already toting an Azrail AP HMG. Good points. I think the Jannisary HMG was a holdover from my last test I forgot about... Swapping out the Djan for the HMG and the Jann for the normal AP one leaves 4 pts over. Dropping a plain Ghulam frees up enough points to make the Jann an Akbar, another specialist, at 297/ 5SWC.
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Apr 23, 2016 23:17
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This is what I'd do: Haqqislam ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 9  1 AZRA'IL AP HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 41) DJANBAZAN HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 35) DJANBAZAN Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31) NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) FIDAY Rifle + Light Shotgun, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, DA CCW, Knife. (0 | 31) SHIHAB REMOTE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25) HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18) NAJJARUN Engineer Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17) NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) RAFIQ REMOTE Rifle + Light Shotgun, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16) GHULAM (Forward Observer) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) GHULAM (Forward Observer) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13)GROUP 2 3 2  2 GHULAM Hacker (Hacking Device) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 20) NAFFATÛN Lieutenant Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) NAFFATÛN Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5) MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)5 SWC | 300 Points Open in Infinity Army Corbeau fucked around with this message at 23:23 on Apr 23, 2016 |
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Apr 23, 2016 23:18
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Corbeau posted:This is what I'd do: Looks good, what might you recommend to replace that second Djan? I only have one (HMG sculpt specifically) and the FLGSs don't have any Djanbazan in stock. Just called to check.
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Apr 23, 2016 23:52
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Have you got the lasiq sniper model? She is always my MVP every game, anything viral seems amazing
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Apr 24, 2016 07:30
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I rate the Viral Rifle lasiq a bit higher than the Sniper. Dat burst, dat range. Also, in supfire, he's a monster.
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Apr 24, 2016 07:51
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I was strongly considering a Lasiq. Odds are I'll be going against Ariadna at least twice due to it's popularity, no BTS armor to speak of in that faction. So here's what I'm thinking now: Haqqislam ────────────────────────────────────────────────── GROUP 1 10 AZRA'IL AP HMG / Pistol, Knife. (2 | 41) DJANBAZAN HMG / Pistol, Knife. (1.5 | 35) FIDAY Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines, Smoke Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, Knife. (0 | 32) SHIHAB REMOTE HMG / Electric Pulse. (1 | 25) NAJJARUN Engineer Rifle + Light Shotgun, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 17) NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) RAFIQ REMOTE Rifle + Light Shotgun, Sniffer / Electric Pulse. (0 | 16) GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) NASMAT Electric Pulse. (0 | 3) GHULAM Hacker (Hacking Device) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 20) GHULAM Doctor Plus (MediKit) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 16) LASIQ Viral Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 26)GROUP 2 2 2 1 HUNZAKUT (Forward Observer, Deployable Repeater) Rifle + Light Shotgun, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 18) GHULAM (Forward Observer) Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 13) NAFFATÛN Lieutenant Rifle + Light Flamethrower, Grenades / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 12) MUTTAWI'AH Chain Rifle, E/Marat, Jammer / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 5)5 SWC | 298 Points Open in Infinity Army Also, this is an  Official ITS Event. My Lasiq is a sniper, have any of you come across people actually getting super picky about what weapon a given model is holding? Official rules say it has to "represent faithfully" the weapon it's supposed to have. (Unless y'know they went 'gently caress it' and never release other sculpts for a unit ever.) Everyone local is pretty chill, and everything I'm running is the correct unit type, but I was wondering.
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Apr 24, 2016 08:49
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WAR FOOT posted:I rate the Viral Rifle lasiq a bit higher than the Sniper. Dat burst, dat range. Also, in supfire, he's a monster. Hmm have to try it out next game, that x visor must really help and no SWC use is cool, only dmg 13 though
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Apr 24, 2016 08:53
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Today I learnt to fear the Fiday. He killed 1/3 of my orders in his first turn and I spent the rest trying to repair/doctor the damage only to roll over my WIP and finishing the job. I even spent all my command tokens in the process.
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Apr 24, 2016 12:59
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by.a.teammate posted:Hmm have to try it out next game, that x visor must really help and no SWC use is cool, only dmg 13 though Dam 13 is fine on functional Shock DA vs. BTS Not a viking posted:Today I learnt to fear the Fiday. He killed 1/3 of my orders in his first turn and I spent the rest trying to repair/doctor the damage only to roll over my WIP and finishing the job. I even spent all my command tokens in the process. Impersonation is the literal worst skill in Infinity, from a game design standpoint. If I have the first turn, and I have an impersonator, I have a reasonable chance to kill your LT as my first order. Biovisors won't help, because a reserved Impersonator can easily avoid them. Clawtopsy fucked around with this message at 13:10 on Apr 24, 2016 |
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Apr 24, 2016 13:03
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Yeah Impersonation has stood out for years as probably the shittiest thing in the game. I love it from a flavour point of view but hate playing with or against the thing.
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Apr 24, 2016 13:18
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The Speculo is by far the worst of the bunch, doubly so with the new MA change.  : Nice TAG you have there. Shame if someone were to monofilament it with no counter.e: I suppose the counter is the Speculo fails it's WIP check. Clawtopsy fucked around with this message at 14:54 on Apr 24, 2016 |
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Apr 24, 2016 14:51
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Yeah, I don't take her anymore in any local games because gently caress having to put people against that.
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Apr 24, 2016 14:57
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I play CA myself, but I don't use the speculo that often. One of the haqq players boasted he was going to try a three imp list  The only tool against it is "lose one guy who is hopefully not your Lt and hope you kill the imp with the nearby guys", right?
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Apr 24, 2016 15:02
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Pre-empt kicking him in the bollocks is the other way to do it, tends to work first. But yeah, Impersonation is one of those skills where you really learn to deploy models and ARO placements become MASSIVELY important. I hate watching players learn it in some ways because you only learn about it once you get absolutely annihilated by it.
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Apr 24, 2016 15:06
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The Boarding Shotgun Fiday is like 29 points, and can reliably trade up. Even if it's just to gank a TR drone, it's usually pretty straightforward. At least it doesn't have an Automedkit.
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Apr 24, 2016 15:18
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What about something like the Oniwaban? Seems just as nasty, even harder to hit with shooting, and you don't even have a token to give away that he's there, right? I guess there's slightly more MSV2 running around though, and it is more points...
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Apr 24, 2016 15:24
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And can't enter the opponent's DZ during deployment, and only takes one discover roll to discover. e: And units with Sensor get a WIP bonus to discover, and MSV2-3 negates the penalty/discovers automatically Clawtopsy fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Apr 24, 2016 |
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Apr 24, 2016 15:28
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WAR FOOT posted:And can't enter the opponent's DZ during deployment, and only takes one discover roll to discover. Fair enough! I forgot that impersonate gets you into the DZ if you want.
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Apr 24, 2016 15:55
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You can also use mines and intuitive attack vs camo markers. VVV E: thats what I meant, another tool vs camo that doesn't work vs impersonation. Seriously though, if two out of five players in my group (the one guy's wife might join with haqq as well) start to use impersonation regularly I might have to reconsider using the skiavoro at all. Sure it has G:Mnemonica, but I'll lose the strategos lvl 2 in the first turn. I guess I'll have to start minelaying my deployment zone to kill any impersonators going in. It still works if they reveal during their order. Not a viking fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Apr 24, 2016 |
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Apr 24, 2016 16:14
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Impersonation isn't a camo marker though, and you can't attack it at all until it's discovered
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Apr 24, 2016 17:23
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http://www.beastsofwar.com/infinity/infinity-releases-april/ New stuff. I like the Rev Healer.
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Apr 25, 2016 09:28
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At the recent tournament Impersonation got a hacker close enough to possess a TAG which then ram rampant on its allies.
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Apr 25, 2016 16:22
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Cat Face Joe posted:At the recent tournament Impersonation got a hacker close enough to possess a TAG which then ram rampant on its allies. Hackers don't have Impersonation. If you're talking about Cybermask, it avoids most of Imp's gotchas, namely deploying straight in enemy DZ and double Discover.
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Apr 25, 2016 16:30
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Flipswitch posted:http://www.beastsofwar.com/infinity/infinity-releases-april/ It's nice but I hoped we were past combat heels, wedges or not.
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Apr 25, 2016 17:14
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by.a.teammate posted:It's nice but I hoped we were past combat heels, wedges or not. new thread title right here or potentially something about midriff or boobplate, both get thrown around a lot
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Apr 25, 2016 17:24
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Pierzak posted:Hackers don't have Impersonation. If you're talking about Cybermask, it avoids most of Imp's gotchas, namely deploying straight in enemy DZ and double Discover. Wow, didn't know Impersonation was two discovers. Either way, she cybermasked then walked right up the center and hacked the gently caress out of it.
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Apr 25, 2016 17:39
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by.a.teammate posted:It's nice but I hoped we were past combat heels, wedges or not. At least she has pants on.
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Apr 25, 2016 17:39
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Cat Face Joe posted:At least she has pants on. I've just assumed all my Mutts are wearing skin tight suits with nice warm thermal properties
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Apr 25, 2016 20:29
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Cat Face Joe posted:At least she has pants on.
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Apr 25, 2016 20:58
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by.a.teammate posted:I've just assumed all my Mutts are wearing skin tight suits with nice warm thermal properties It's the best we can do for now. Flipswitch posted:Now that's a thread title. danke
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Apr 25, 2016 21:23
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Who is the guy who sells broken up box sets? vv thanks vv Cat Face Joe fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Apr 28, 2016 |
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Apr 28, 2016 19:25
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Cat Face Joe posted:Who is the guy who sells broken up box sets? ChoKonnit on the official forums, in the stores section.
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Apr 28, 2016 20:01
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How do I build a vanilla Aleph list for Biotechvore? I really can't figure out how to even come up with 10 orders that can all get out my deployment zone.
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Apr 29, 2016 01:37
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Acceptableloss posted:How do I build a vanilla Aleph list for Biotechvore? It's basically impossible without link teams or spending every single coordinated order to get all your 4-4 troopers out of the zone on turn 1. You can run troopers faster than 4-4, pray for good infiltration rolls, or run high-BTS models with more than 1W or NWI to leave in your deployment and tank the biotechvore hits while supplying orders. Keep in mind that anything with STR instead of Wounds takes two hits from being in the zone, so maybe Maruts aren't the best solution.
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Aix Athanatos posted:It's basically impossible without link teams or spending every single coordinated order to get all your 4-4 troopers out of the zone on turn 1. You can run troopers faster than 4-4, pray for good infiltration rolls, or run high-BTS models with more than 1W or NWI to leave in your deployment and tank the biotechvore hits while supplying orders. Keep in mind that anything with STR instead of Wounds takes two hits from being in the zone, so maybe Maruts aren't the best solution. Do TO Camo and/or AD Combat Jump troops avoid the PHYS rolls by virtue of not being "deployed" ?
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Apr 29, 2016 19:20
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Acceptableloss posted:Do TO Camo and/or AD Combat Jump troops avoid the PHYS rolls by virtue of not being "deployed" ? The rule says you must make the roll whenever you attempt to deploy outside your deployment zone. I'd imagine that AD troops make the roll when they fly onto the board and TO Infiltrators make the roll during your deployment phase but I'm not sure. Another question is, does a trooper in Hidden Deployment suffer the BTS roll if it's hidden at the end of the game round?
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TO Infils do it at deployment, yup. On BTV, I don't think they do, as Hidden Deployment models no longer suffer the effects of attacks/templates in N3, I do not know for certain if this is also means BTV Rolls. I haven't checked. Flipswitch fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Apr 29, 2016 |
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Hey everyone, I'm new to Infinity and just got the Operation Icestorm starter pack. I love how the miniatures look but I wanted to ask a question. Which of the factions usually employs more remotes in their usual lists? I heard that if you want to go "All robot All the time" Aleph is the faction of choice, but I don't really dig how the Homeric units and characters look. Can I have a functional list using more awesome robot troopers and less Achilles and his whatever guard?
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