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Guy Mann posted:lifeboat tickets In the alternate reality of this computer game, what is a "lifeboat ticket"? A gun? I think the best way to get onto a lifeboat would be by waving a gun around. Back to AOHELL: Buttcoin purse posted:I guess I'll try and find a cheap SIM card somewhere I thought about it and realized that there's probably not much point in me testing this any further - if it doesn't work because of something in the AOL protocol I don't think I'll have any way of fixing it, so basically apart from fixing bugs, whether or not the code works, it's complete. So I decided you can test it Here's how it works: 1. You run my setup script, which will capture the "Init" packet from a "good" (able to connect) version of the AOL client, e.g. 6.0 (which I tested) and saves it to disk. I'm not just including the content of the packet in the script because, at least according to Wireshark's dump of the Init packet from AOL 5.0, it contains the screen resolution, color depth, Windows version, and other things that may vary between computers. When looking at the packet from AOL 6.0, those fields are wrong, though, so maybe the AOL 6.0 version no longer contains those things, or maybe Wireshark just doesn't support the AOL 6.0 version of the packet. Also the packet literally includes, in text form, a Copyright notice, although I think there's legal precedent to say "no, gently caress off, you can't prevent people from using your interface by inserting a Copyright notice in it". Instead you need to encrypt it so the DMCA applies  2. You then run my main script, which will replace the first packet of every connection from the old version of the AOL client, e.g. 5.0 (which I tested), with the saved packet from the newer version. The scripts are able to capture the packets because you can configure the AOL clients (at least 5.0 and 6.0) to change the name of the server they connect to. In the "Sign On" screen, click the "Setup" button, then "Expert Setup", then in the default ("Locations") tab, select the second (child) "ISP/LAN Connection" entry, then click the "Edit" button, select the "Manual Proxy Configuration" radio button, then click on the "View..." button next to it, then in the "Server" frame, in the "Host:" entry field, change the value to the IP address of the machine on which you are running the scripts (127.0.0.1 means the machine you're running the client on). Then click "OK", then "OK", then "Close". Now, clicking the "Sign On" button will make the AOL client connect to the script. You can run the scripts on the same machine/VM you are running the AOL client on, or a different one, it shouldn't matter. The main issue is the scripts are written in Python and as I mentioned in this post I had trouble getting Python installed on Windows 98 SE, but it did work eventually. If, on the other hand, you install Python on a newer machine where it's probably easier to install, you might have to set up your firewall to enable the VM to connect. Also it's probably best to get Python version 2.x, not 3.x. So what's your preference, run Python on the Windows 98 SE VM or on another machine (e.g. the host)?
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Reading through this thread made me think of games I've not thought of in ages. I was a latecomer to computers as it wasn't until High School that they offered a couple classes with them and in all truth, only reason I took those classes was that they were in the only air conditioned rooms in our went up sometime in the 1800s building that was a horrible heat trap. Ended up actually doing well and enjoying the classes. Of course most people back then didn't have a home computer, so at first I played a lot of whatever educational games they had available at school. I don't remember the name of the one I played excessively but it was some sort of gameshow trivia one that was pretty much text only that wasn't too bad. When the boyfriend I had at the time's family got a home computer it was a big deal and I remember playing a little Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy on it, though mostly it was him over my shoulder telling me what to type because he had a fit over anyone playing the game wrong. Some years later my Mom got a 386X which I played too many hours of Taipai, Doom and Heretic on, but my all time favorite was Outpost. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outpost_%28video_game%29 I played the hell out of it, but was never able to set up multiple colonies no matter how much I tried or try to utilize certain tech like the geothermal energy and I eagerly waited for the expansion the game literature mentioned of setting up colonies on other worlds and dealing with aliens. That the game was essentially unfinished and the literature promised stuff that wasn't going to happen never occurred to me at the time. I'd still be playing the drat thing, mess that it actually was but it eventually stopped working sometime around WinXP even trying to run it in the right compatibility mode. I still half hope that some company would pick up Outpost again and actually finish it, but so far I've not found anything. Another one I played way too much on was some Civ2 knock off that was a collection of variants like Masters of Orion 2 and generic fantasy world in Civ2 form. Never figured out what qualified as a victory for the fantasy world one as I could conquer everyone and still get told I lost.
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JediTalentAgent posted:Did anyone actually play Battlecrusier 3000AD when it was still new? It seemed like a very interesting pitch at the time, it didn't pan out to be the killer app that was touted. According to Wiki, it caused one of the largest internet flame wars. You mean Derek Smart's Desktop Commander? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIn1_9YvGds
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Three-Phase posted:Cray-2 running at NASA Ames: Holy poo poo, that wiring  I think if I spent all that money on a supercomputer, I'd expect the manufacturer to have hidden that mess behind an opaque panel.
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Buttcoin purse posted:Oh I see, I always associated the QuickTime application and .mov files with movies, but I was wrong! For what it's worth, the application of QTvr you mentioned is a pretty niche case (basically like Scroll Down to Riker, where the video/image moves a bit based on scrolling behavior). Most of it was stitching together 'hi rez' images.
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Last Chance posted:In the same vein, I also liked Are You Afraid of the Dark? The Tale of Orpheo's Curse: Now every moron in the world has done a Phantasmagoria LP, and most of them are nowhere near as good as that first one.
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Buttcoin purse posted:
I do remember when Quicktime VR was first out and me thinking "well what the gently caress am I supposed to do while stuck on dialup?"
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Starhawk64 posted:Yeah, it was poo poo back then, but I do miss 90s computing sometimes. I just set up a Virtual PC to run Windows 98 so I can run Fury3 and the Journeyman Project Turbo. I think it's amazing how far computers have progressed in such little time, computers have enough grunt now to be able to run an OS inside an OS, that's some Inception poo poo right there. I have no clue how you guys are running full games in virtual machines. I am using a pretty decent machine (core i7) and Win98 is so slow that I can see the mouse lagging! Also I got Win95 working on a n3ds. It was kind of useless though as I could not get any inputs to really work. The Repo Man posted:Also, my first memory of our Hewlett Packard Bell Win95 computer. It's so funny that that was seen as "the future". "Walking around" your OS instead of just clicking on text. Though I have to say, I am surprised that in 2016 cruise ship companies still just have poo poo pictures of what's on their cruises and not Doom-style virtual walkthroughs. The cruise industry is welcome to steal my idea by the way. Also you also reminded me of a really weird shell my first PC with Windows 3.1 came with.  Buttcoin purse posted:Back to AOHELL: I will do Python on my Windows 98 VM! I can't wait to test it!
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I never played the original Outpost, but I definitely spent hundreds of hours playing its sequel, which apparently had nothing in common with the first one gameplaywise. Best C&C knockoff ever made imo.
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:I have no clue how you guys are running full games in virtual machines. I am using a pretty decent machine (core i7) and Win98 is so slow that I can see the mouse lagging! He said he was using Virtual PC, which I'd forgotten about, but I seem to remember it's pretty good for emulating all the older Microsoft OSes. I think it doesn't work properly on Windows 8 and later, where you're meant to use Hyper-V, which isn't so good for retro OSes, but I saw some hacks online somewhere for getting Hyper-V to work on Windows 8 (don't know if they also work with Windows 8.1 with Update, Windows 10, etc.). quote:It's so funny that that was seen as "the future". lol I'm reminded of Microsoft BOB quote:Also you also reminded me of a really weird shell my first PC with Windows 3.1 came with.  Wikipedia says Xerox developed this. I guess not everything they invented was as great as GUIs and mice.quote:I will do Python on my Windows 98 VM! I can't wait to test it! Cool, I'll package things up soon. For the full retro experience, I was thinking of uuencoding it and including it in a post, but not only would it annoy you, it's too hard to even find a uuencoding tool 
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sinking belle posted:I never played the original Outpost, but I definitely spent hundreds of hours playing its sequel, which apparently had nothing in common with the first one gameplaywise. Best C&C knockoff ever made imo. As much as I tried to get into Outpost 2, it just didn't click with me. And since my last post, I googled around and it turns out the Civ2 knock off I remembered was an actual expansion called Civ II: Fantastic Worlds. Since I do have a copy of Civ2 that runs, I'll have to see if that expansion's lurking around somewhere online.
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Buttcoin purse posted:Cool, I'll package things up soon. For the full retro experience, I was thinking of uuencoding it and including it in a post, but not only would it annoy you, it's too hard to even find a uuencoding tool Awesome, and thank you! Despite using a PC for 25+ years I am ages behind people like you so I appreciate any dumbing down where possible. 
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:I have no clue how you guys are running full games in virtual machines. I am using a pretty decent machine (core i7) and Win98 is so slow that I can see the mouse lagging! This is probably not a processing power issue; it is probably a graphics issue. Have you installed VMWare/VirtualBox Tools on the guest OS? If not, do so, and follow any prompts regarding your resolution settings. There are some third-party programs to help with the graphics-related issues of running old Windows OSes inside virtual machines. I don't remember if you need that for Windows 98, though.
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Downloading cars is a crime! Don't do crimes, kids!
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Nice, my dad had this pretty sure......... Also, I've been having a blast fiddling around with win3.1 and playing games and such on it. And it reminds me how much I still like the old windows style of desktop or whatever you call it, as opposed to the START MENU desktop. Having various folders full of shortcuts to your applications, nice big icons, etc. I think I'm going to need to start recreating this in my current desktop. Weaving the mouse cursor through an endless series of popout menu tabs until you find the program your looking for was a pain back in 95 and it's a pain now. I just want to play minesweeper you dolts!
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I was talking with a friend last night about how Amiga games always seemed to have begging/pleading/threats not to pirate the game embedded in the code, and it led me to remember Dungeon Master's Clever Copy Protection The game disks were duplicated using a very expensive piece of duplication hardware that allowed them to implement "fuzzy bits", which always give a random binary result when read. The game would read these multiple times quickly, and if the results were the same each time, it'd assume that the game was copied using a standard floppy drive that can't write fuzzy bits, and wait a few minutes before either crashing the game or killing your whole party off. This was all checksum-protected, too, so trying to remove this protection code would set off other detections unless you removed all the checksum code. They also hid some pieces of this protection code encoded as graphics in the data files, where crackers wouldn't normally look. Pretty clever stuff.
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8 track betamax posted:And it reminds me how much I still like the old windows style of desktop or whatever you call it, as opposed to the START MENU desktop. Having various folders full of shortcuts to your applications, nice big icons, etc. I think I'm going to need to start recreating this in my current desktop. It's annoying that you can't achieve this by just going to My Computer and opening the "Start Menu" folder because actually you need to look in both your own personal folder and the "All Users" one. It seems like it'd be pretty easy to make a Program Manager clone that just looked in those folders. Probably already been done! In fact Wikipedia says Program Manager was still included in Windows XP SP1, I wonder if you can use that .exe file with later versions of Windows? If it was actually still 16-bit at that point you can't use it in a 64-bit version of Windows. http://chorusofone.no-ip.org/computerstuff/Progman-XP.html seems to explain how to do it. Oh, and http://chorusofone.no-ip.org/computerstuff/win7progman.html says it's 32-bit, so I guess it'll work on 64-bit Windows so long as you follow their steps which I didn't read too carefully. quote:Weaving the mouse cursor through an endless series of popout menu tabs until you find the program your looking for was a pain back in 95 and it's a pain now. I just want to play minesweeper you dolts! It's better than the new start screen! Although at least in that you can just type "mine" and not actually have to scroll or click around.
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Guy Mann posted:The plot was about stopping the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand from starting WWI and if you fail you get killed by German stormtroopers or die in a nuclear bomb in a flashforward.
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8 track betamax posted:Yeah except he built his with his own blood sweat and tears and increased his own know-how and skill while doing it....while you shelled out daddy's money for a stylish piece of plastic that matched your iced vanilla latte. I wasted my own goddamn hard-earned money, and I drank mocha frappacinos!
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PromethiumX posted:I'll never forget the moment I fired up Quake 2 after getting my first Voodoo1 with its massive 4mb of VRAM and experienced 3d for the first time.  Same here, blew me and my dad away when he installed a 12MB Voodoo2 in our old Compaq K6-2 350 machine. Night and day from playing the old software renderer to OpenGL goodnessTo contribute - this showed up at my job from a client's hoard of old, broken equipment - Zenith MasterSport 386SLe. Cursory searching shows this beast came at a premium of $3,999 with a 60MB hard drive and 2MB system memory, running an i386 chip. Classy yellow exterior that used to be beige/white  Tiny-rear end screen with a few random labels for key functions and such  Giant power brick for the whole thing (it didn't have a battery) that's easily 2-3x the size of a modern laptop power brick  Neat little piece of history, one of my coworkers ended up taking it home to tinker with...up until now the oldest hardware I'd seen was the occasional 56k modem or old Dell GX series towers/desktops that were collecting dust in secret storage rooms.
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Ozz81 posted:
I had a coworker who brought me something very similar to these once. She asked if I could install Windows 7 on it.
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:I had a coworker who brought me something very similar to these once. She asked if I could install Windows 7 on it. and, did you? I have a similar one from Goldstar, got it from a friend which found it at work. It's amazing how robust and well built these things are.
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The Kins posted:I was talking with a friend last night about how Amiga games always seemed to have begging/pleading/threats not to pirate the game embedded in the code... I remember one of the Amiga Lotus racing games had a very quiet sample that played during the music that said "you will not copy this game".
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I know The Palace has already come up here, but I miss all the weird 3D virtual worlds too. I remember there was a Something Awful presence in one of the 3D virtual world places but can't remember the program for the life of me. Some enterprising person built a giant dildo factory that featured a several story tall erection smokestack that would launch you into the sky. It was cool to just go through all the worlds and see the stuff people had spent a ton of time building, then just abandoned. Edit - I think it was Active Worlds after doing some research. Looks like this poo poo is still supported, sweet Tato has a new favorite as of 04:58 on Apr 26, 2016 |
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Just to jump back to the "layers of VM" conversation, you could easily go 4 layers deep on portables alone. Vita supports PSP emulation, PSP has a GBA emulator, GBA has an NES emulator. Not sure how stable the NES-on-GBA emulator is (I'd imagine it's pretty solid though), but GBA emulation on the PSP is 1:1 these days, and I think the PSP emulation on the Vita is supported by Sony themselves so I'd imagine it's pretty good too.Tato posted:
I'm afraid to look into this because I fondly remember AW from my pre-pubescent years as a zany world full of fellow young nerds (my avatar was an X-wing!!!!!!) and I'd be horrified to see the inevitable SecondLife-style furry fuckfest that AW has become 
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The worst thing about those early laptops was the ADB-like power connector they always used. Those were so easy so accidently rip out and the batteries back then barely helped you in those situations
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Tato posted:I know The Palace has already come up here, but I miss all the weird 3D virtual worlds too. I remember there was a Something Awful presence in one of the 3D virtual world places but can't remember the program for the life of me. Some enterprising person built a giant dildo factory that featured a several story tall erection smokestack that would launch you into the sky. It was cool to just go through all the worlds and see the stuff people had spent a ton of time building, then just abandoned
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Another thing I forgot about when installing AOL was that back in the Win 9x days it was pretty much a given that anything you installed would hijack your homepage. I was wondering why the hell Firefox was defaulting to Real Player's website. That is some nefarious poo poo, and I remember it being really common. People would be rioting in the streets if it happened today (when installing legit software). Centripetal Horse posted:This is probably not a processing power issue; it is probably a graphics issue. Have you installed VMWare/VirtualBox Tools on the guest OS? If not, do so, and follow any prompts regarding your resolution settings. There are some third-party programs to help with the graphics-related issues of running old Windows OSes inside virtual machines. I don't remember if you need that for Windows 98, though. I am using SciTech Display Doctor which was a pretty lengthy process and on some other forum they made it like that's the best I am going to get. It seriously looks like it runs at 5 FPS. I mean it's doable, but it kinda sucks and I still don't get how people can be playing games like this. I am supposed to install VirtualBox Tools on the virtual Windows 98? Buttcoin purse posted:I apologize in advance for any disappointment this code may cause! Unfortunately I hit a bit of a snag. I downloaded everything fine. When it came time to run the python installer, I got this error:  Unfortunately I did in fact install instmsia.exe which should be installer 2.0 but I am still getting that error message. I even tried some update pack thing from majorgeeks and it didn't seem to help. Do you have a direct link to the installer that works so I can install python?
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:I am using SciTech Display Doctor which was a pretty lengthy process and on some other forum they made it like that's the best I am going to get. It seriously looks like it runs at 5 FPS. I mean it's doable, but it kinda sucks and I still don't get how people can be playing games like this. I am supposed to install VirtualBox Tools on the virtual Windows 98? I doubt the VirtualBox Tools support Windows 9x. quote:Unfortunately I hit a bit of a snag. I'll upload that old Nokia PC Suite later unless you can find it online before I get to it. Microsoft (  ) only have the latest version on their site.
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VMTools has a client that supports 95/98/Me and includes a video driver and a mouse driver. The stuttering/low FPS you're experiencing is most likely caused by the generic mouse driver Windows installs - I just finished a 98SE install, manually installed the VMTools mouse driver, and now everything is fluid like it should be. No need to gently caress around with SciTech, since VMware still supports 98 as a guest client.
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Buttcoin purse posted:I doubt the VirtualBox Tools support Windows 9x. That's pretty funny (having to download Nokia PC Suite). I will look for it but which version do I need? Turdsdown Tom posted:VMTools has a client that supports 95/98/Me and includes a video driver and a mouse driver. The stuttering/low FPS you're experiencing is most likely caused by the generic mouse driver Windows installs - I just finished a 98SE install, manually installed the VMTools mouse driver, and now everything is fluid like it should be. I am using VM Virtual Box. Is that why I can't get it? I tried their version of it and it said it doesn't support Win98. Please don't tell me I need to ditch VM Virtual Box. This thing was a nightmare to set up! I feel like just dual-booting my laptop to work with Win98 except I am pretty sure that's nearly impossible with an SATA hard drive and HD screen.
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Turdsdown Tom posted:VMTools has a client that supports 95/98/Me and includes a video driver and a mouse driver. The stuttering/low FPS you're experiencing is most likely caused by the generic mouse driver Windows installs - I just finished a 98SE install, manually installed the VMTools mouse driver, and now everything is fluid like it should be. I've been reading the VMception talk for a while and think I would give it a go one day. If we made a thread about it - what possible rules/exclusions would we possibly come up with?
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Uncle at Nintendo posted:That's pretty funny (having to download Nokia PC Suite). I will look for it but which version do I need? As I said in some earlier post, 5.8. I found it at http://www.oldapps.com/nokia_suite.php?old_nokia_pc_suite=1 That isn't exactly the same version of 5.8 as I used, it's slightly newer, but I assume they probably didn't change the installer. Just run the installer, it'll say it's updating/installing Windows Installer, then when it gets to the bit where it wants you to actually interact with it (you know, Next button, etc.) cancel out of it. quote:I am using VM Virtual Box. Is that why I can't get it? I tried their version of it and it said it doesn't support Win98. It's not "VM Virtual Box", it's "Oracle VirtualBox". VMware might be better from what Turdsdown Tom is saying, so that sounds nice. Tom, are you using VMware Player, is that still free? I bet you would have less trouble getting VMware running than setting up Windows 98 on your actual laptop's hardware! At least a lot of other people have tried to run Windows 98 on <whatever virtualization product> but probably nobody else has tried to run it on <your exact laptop>. Maybe someone has some kind of dodgy SATA support though  Humphreys posted:I've been reading the VMception talk for a while and think I would give it a go one day. If we made a thread about it - what possible rules/exclusions would we possibly come up with? Yeah, do you get points only for depth, or also for breadth? e.g. obviously you can do some layers of nesting, but should you also do two sets of nesting at once, like Windows 10 -> Hyper-V -> Linux -> PCem -> DOS while also running Windows 10 -> QEMU -> Windows XP -> Basikisk II -> MacOS?
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Yeah that was a thought. Can we multithread using VMware Hypervisor (something I am currently installing for a different use) then go in from there or do we allow one 'channel' of working. Metal > OS > OS2 > OS3 etc. EDIT: and if allowing a hypervisor are points compounded. I'm thinking way too far into this.
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Humphreys posted:VMware Hypervisor How is that different from ESXi? Also I seem to recall you can run ESXi in ESXi so maybe you can just go forever there but each install takes a bit longer than the last one?
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