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Riso posted:You pay GEZ for this insulting poo poo.
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The idea that the German media calling all Austrians "Nazi" is going to improve the situation in any way is pretty idiotic.
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Apr 25, 2016 21:33
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Riso posted:You pay GEZ for this insulting poo poo. You're right, that photoshop is horrible (and the joke is admittedly not very funny too, but eh)
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Apr 25, 2016 21:33
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1FVlS3zdhA
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Apr 25, 2016 22:20
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GaussianCopula posted:The idea that the German media calling all Austrians "Nazi" is going to improve the situation in any way is pretty idiotic.
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Apr 25, 2016 22:48
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Riso posted:You pay GEZ for this insulting poo poo. im glad of it
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Apr 25, 2016 23:10
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DE DEITSCHEN MEDIEN IMMER *beginnt, aus dem Mund zu schäumen*
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Apr 25, 2016 23:23
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Germans should have been expelled from Austria in 1945 and the land given to Slovenia like with Poland and Czech
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Apr 25, 2016 23:25
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Simply Simon posted:DE DEITSCHEN MEDIEN IMMER *beginnt, aus dem Mund zu schäumen* same icantfindaname posted:Germans should have been expelled from Austria in 1945 and the land given to Slovenia like with Poland and Czech same
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Apr 25, 2016 23:38
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That Nazi Schnitzel sure will teach those voters. And silly me thought it was the Germans who torch one asylum home after the other.
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Apr 26, 2016 02:33
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Genau, wie wagt es diese Satire show das Übel beim Namen zu nennen und aktuelle Geschehnisse zu bespotten. Da könnten Gefühle verletzt werden, das kann man einfach nicht machen sowas. Ich sag Art 5 GG abschaffen aber sofort, hier muss wieder Ordnung rein!!! PS: Sweet tu quoque about the arsons, because as everybody knows we are totally okay with that and it's not a problem at all. But maybe if you vote hard enough and let this poo poo fester you too can have your own Lichtenhagen revival party down south.
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Apr 26, 2016 07:19
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Die Geistlosigkeit besteht darin, dass in der Vergangenheit, z.B. Waldheim oder Schwarz-Blau 1, wir bereits genau in der selben Situation waren. Und es hat ja jedesmal so toll funktioniert, wenn im öffentlich-rechtlichen TV gespottet wurde und es hat unter den Rechts-Wählern niiiiieee Trotzreaktionen und eine "Jetzt erst recht" Haltung erzeugt. Geschweigedenn ihnen noch mehr Stimmen zugetrieben.
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Apr 26, 2016 10:50
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I don't think you get the tweet to be honest. It's not really targeted at Austrians, it's not a "Oh no you're voting brown. Better check yourself before you wreck yourself." I'm pretty sure they don't give a gently caress what Austrians think about it. It's targeted at Germans and more of a "Haha look, those wacky Schluchtenscheißer are at it again with the naziing" And honestly, I've seen far worse spending of my GEZ money. At least it's not Volksmusik ™
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Hammerstein posted:Die Geistlosigkeit besteht darin, dass in der Vergangenheit, z.B. Waldheim oder Schwarz-Blau 1, wir bereits genau in der selben Situation waren. Die Aussage dass Spott den Rechtsparteien mehr Stimmen gibt ist ne ziemlich gewagte These für die ich gerne in irgendeiner Form einen Beleg hätte.
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Apr 26, 2016 12:14
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Dinge, die dafür sorgen, dass die extreme Rechte mehr Stimmen bekommt:
Verdammt. Da kann man wohl nix machen. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Apr 26, 2016 13:24
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"Extrem" In Österreich brennen keine Flüchtlingsheime.
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Ah, ich hatte in der Liste "Die Rechten als solche bezeichnen" vergessen, danke
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Riso posted:"Extrem" soon™?
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Apr 26, 2016 14:32
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botany posted:Die Aussage dass Spott den Rechtsparteien mehr Stimmen gibt ist ne ziemlich gewagte These für die ich gerne in irgendeiner Form einen Beleg hätte. Siehe Waldheim: quote:Trotz der Diskussionen wollte die Mehrheit der Österreicher Waldheim als Präsidenten. Er wurde gewählt, wenn auch knapp: Waldheim verfehlte beim ersten Durchgang mit 49,46 Prozent die absolute Mehrheit und musste mit dem SPÖ-Kandidaten Kurt Steyrer in die Stichwahl. http://wiev1.orf.at/stories/200075
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Der Postillon hat zur Österreichwahl den besten Kommentar abgegeben:quote:"Wir sind in den letzten Wochen verstärkt auf Herrn Hofer aufmerksam geworden und möchten ihn gerne bei uns willkommenheißen", erklärt Rektorin Eva Blimlinger. In der Vergangenheit habe die Hochschule manchem vielversprechenden Feingeist nicht immer seine verdiente Chance gegeben und ihn so unnötig in die Politik getrieben. "Das soll sich nie mehr wiederholen", so Blimlinger.
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Dass knapp verpasste Wahlsiege zu erhöhter Mobilisierung unter vor allem randnahen Nichtwählern bei Neuwahlen oder zweiten Wahlgängen führt ist nichts neues und hat nichts mit Spott oder gekränktem Stolz zu tun , stattdesssen ist es ein uraltes Symptom des demokratischen Prozesses. Slogans wie "Jetzt erst Recht ( )" stammen nicht aus der Ostrazierung der Wählergruppe sondern aus dem Antrieb einen sog. zweiten Atem zu finden, die bereits entschlossenen Wähler nocheinmal zur Urne zu treiben und jene Genossen die beim ersten Gang keine Lust hatten aus dem Haus zu kriegen. Klassische Wahlkampfwerbung die leider bei potentiellen Wählern von Randparteien am besten wirkt weil diese typischerweise ihre Stimme als kleine, bisweilen ignorierte Rebellion sehen, und wenn Sie sehen dass Ihre Partei knapp vor dem Sieg steht springen viele aufs Trittbrett. Jeder Bürger der meint das öffentlicher Spott oder Aufklärungsversuche Ihm den letzten Schub gegeben hätte zur Wahl zu gehen war bereits im voraus entschlossen, wenn auch zu Faul oder Feige, und wird häufig durch die wettgemacht die ein spätes Erwachen haben oder Schamgefühl entwickeln und fernbleiben.Das Argument dass Wut- und Angstwähler, in diesem Fall die bekannte Gartenvariante der rechten Nationalisten und Autokraten, durch schärfere Bestrahlung mit desinfizierendem Sonnenlicht nur gestärkt werden ist ein ewig hohles und hat in der Geschichte genug angerichtet und gehört dort begraben. Wenn man Giersch im Garten hat kann man nicht mit der Nagelschere davor stehen und hoffen dass es durch leichtes beschneiden um die Blätter und Vermeidung von Augenkontakt, es könne ja dadurch angestachelt werden sich trotzig weiter zu verbreiten, in den Griff kriegt ist Fantasie. Das Ekelpack muss mit der Wurzel raus und umgegraben werden, und jeder weitere Ausreisser der irgendwo anders den Kopf hebt muss beim Namen genannt und bekämpft werden, und das gilt für Deutschland wie für Österreich und den Rest der Welt.
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Deutschland sagt sorry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKlJepmmza8 https://www.deutschland-sagt-sorry.de
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Zwille posted:Deutschland sagt sorry It's weird how schizophrenic this whole thing is with regards to its messaging. The video is some pretty gross apologia with its "well sucks to be you, but the whole thing was totally necessary and we (i.e. you) had to make some sacrifices. But here, have a  hand-signed letter of apology, that'll surely make up for it!"Meanwhile, if you check that website, it's actually pretty drat scathing and really rips into Agenda 2010 with a tone that could well come from a Linke politician.
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It's really weird to think that the same people who made this dressed up as clowns and threw pies into the faces of AfD politicians.
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Is it legal to have an impressum in which you pretend to have your website belong to some else?Perestroika posted:It's weird how schizophrenic this whole thing is with regards to its messaging. The video is some pretty gross apologia with its "well sucks to be you, but the whole thing was totally necessary and we (i.e. you) had to make some sacrifices. But here, have a P sure it's satire. Especially with the low Produktionsqualität.
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That said, realtalk about the message: They seem to only say "this is bad", yet offer no alternative or full discussion. Are educational measures still part of what you can do while being paid unemployment aid? How exactly is the current state which was apparently enacted in 2010 different to what was before?
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It's perfectly fine to bring attention to issues without offering up solutions if you aren't a policy or decision maker. It made you ask questions and possibly try to find out more about it for one. Chaos reigns.
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Mithaldu posted:P sure it's satire. Especially with the low Produktionsqualität. Oh yeah, d'oh. A whois of the site points towards a generic webhoster instead of the actual Ministerium, so it really does look like it's satire. I wonder if that could be trouble for them since the site does make every effort to appear legitimate, including the correct impressum of the BMAS and everything.
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az posted:It's perfectly fine to bring attention to issues without offering up solutions if you aren't a policy or decision maker. It made you ask questions and possibly try to find out more about it for one. I ask because to me the situation seems fine and i consider myself to be aware of a variety of perspectives. I know quite a few people from the usa where it's literally dog-eat-dog and gently caress everyone who isn't literally crippled. My parents are classic worker class. I'm self-employed as a programmer. My sister has never had a real job, failed 3 apprenticeships and was for 4 years or so a single parent. She did get into some trouble with Hartz 4 where they blocked payments to her for a while, but those were literally her own fault because she was incredibly arrogant at job opportunities she had been given and hosed those up by being ignorant as gently caress as well (think "i know better how to clean a hotel room" ... takes 10x as long, then complains about the manager) and just plain being too lazy to hand in paperwork at other times. She currently has a husband in a low-pay job (computer repair shop) and is glad the whole "Aufstocken" thing exists since now she can get money for being stay-at-home mom. When my father lost his Maurer-job he did a 2 year retraining thing to technical drawing which he completed and got paid for the duration of, so if that's still a thing any reasonable person should be able to make themselves at least somewhat employable with that, and/or use the time to get education on own initiative in something that'll translate into a job. So, from my perspective, everyone seems to be doing fairly fine and gets a decent amount of support from the state, especially compared to other countries. Thus, the only thing it can probably be compared to unfavourably is germany's past, which i don't remember in that much detail. And while it's fine to complain if something is actually broken, i have yet to see clear evidence that it is. The examples in the video aren't, to me, or are at the very least not detailed enough.
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Perestroika posted:Oh yeah, d'oh. A whois of the site points towards a generic webhoster instead of the actual Ministerium, so it really does look like it's satire. I wonder if that could be trouble for them since the site does make every effort to appear legitimate, including the correct impressum of the BMAS and everything.  loving amateur hour. For shame.
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Mithaldu posted:She did get into some trouble with Hartz 4 where they blocked payments to her for a while lol if you think this is fine for any reason
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beer_war posted:
Well quote:Domaindaten
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The Real Foogla posted:lol if you think this is fine for any reason Yeah i think what happened to her was justified. And i say this as someone who contributed money to help her once she'd hosed it up.
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Yeah but some of the examples are of people who refuse to move to another city for a low paying job and get their benefits cut as a result. I think it's a lovely thing to do to anyone. If people are too dumb to hand in their paperwork that's another thing.
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Our unemployment benefits system is incredibly hosed up right now, and getting worse, but pointing to other countries like the USA and saying hey, it's much worse there is a really, really terrible idea. I can't fully explain the fuckedupness in detail here because really it would take way too long and there are much more informated sources already out there but yeah it's capital b Bad. The lazy moocher stereotype really doesn't help with it either because it's not accurate beyond anecdotal level and extremly hurtful to both the critical discussion and the individuals tarred with that specific brush, just look at the situation of single mothers in this country and see if that doesn't make you boil. The system we have right now isn't even remotely efficient, on the contrary it decreases, among other things, productivity, quality of life and purchasing power, which in turn further decreases revenues and lead to belt tightening spirals. Not to mention it's rife with extremly questionable if not straight up illegal practices, just looking at Zeitarbeit or the myriad of Vermittlungs scams perpetuated by both the government and private agencies, the latter of which being so awful they make the govt. services look like highly skilled and motivated angels. The only thing you would have to know about how much of a scumsucking parasite private job brokers are is to ask a local farmer about the deals they have in place for being sent genuine job seekers looking for a better lot in live, for unpaid months long internships doing hard manual labor, every single one of whom are instantly fired the day it's up before they would have to hire them. poo poo is broken. az fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Apr 27, 2016 |
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SPD - Verräter der Arbeiterklasse
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:SPD - Verräter der Arbeiterklasse Der Fisch fängt vom Kopf an, zu stinken.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:SPD - Verräter der Arbeiterklasse Das haben wir schon immer so gemacht. Da könnte ja sonst jeder kommen.
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az posted:Our unemployment benefits system is incredibly hosed up right now, and getting worse, but pointing to other countries like the USA and saying hey, it's much worse there is a really, really terrible idea. I can't fully explain the fuckedupness in detail here because really it would take way too long and there are much more informated sources already out there but yeah it's capital b Bad. The lazy moocher stereotype really doesn't help with it either because it's not accurate beyond anecdotal level and extremly hurtful to both the critical discussion and the individuals tarred with that specific brush, just look at the situation of single mothers in this country and see if that doesn't make you boil. This is a good post. Thank you. Further reading in that vein: http://www.maskenfall.de/?p=3251
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botany posted:Die Aussage dass Spott den Rechtsparteien mehr Stimmen gibt ist ne ziemlich gewagte These für die ich gerne in irgendeiner Form einen Beleg hätte.  ~1750 Likes on Facebook atm.
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