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I really hope there'll be some DLC that allows me to do absurd things like playing as Spain, then teaming up with Germany and Italy to split France. Having a Spain that denies the allies access to the med could be really interesting.
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One of the best things about Kaiserreich is that each playthrough can be different, and there are multiple triggers that can fire for various events. The war in Europe can start at basically any point after like 1938 I think (or not at all), the Russian Civil War can go several different directions (well, really most countries can go multiple directions), German elections can turn out wacky results ranging from fascism to social democracy. Each playthrough is something new.
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Apr 26, 2016 15:51
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John Charity Spring posted:Invading Canada and toppling the Royalists once and for all is the endgame for the Union of Britain, yeah. Uhh. Spreading the revolution to the entire world is the endgame for Britain, thank you very much.  Nova Scotia is just the first stop on the road to Tierra del Fuego
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Apr 26, 2016 15:56
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ulmont posted:Stellaris thread is this way (DD already posted there): Yeah, but language changes are important for every Paradox title, which I assume is why he posted it here.
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Apr 26, 2016 15:57
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Panama Red posted:Germany seems to have gone down an almost pacifist path since the Black Friday events. There was an event where France mobilized in response to a bombing and Germany backed down. Ukraine, Scandinavia, the Netherlands and Spain are all syndicalist. I guess taking Greenland and then Canada is the next logical step, although Canada took New England in the ACW. Germany probably won't be the one to start the war, but France will still need your help unless Germany really hasn't built up at all.
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Apr 26, 2016 16:09
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I've said this before, but man, Kaiserreich sounds like so much fun. It's a shame I just don't like HoI, and even with Kaiserreich it's just... not for me. 
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Apr 26, 2016 17:32
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Fintilgin posted:I've said this before, but man, Kaiserreich sounds like so much fun. I work on Kaiserreich and I don't really like Hearts of Iron.
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Apr 26, 2016 17:41
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I hope there's an HoI IV version of Kaiserreich because I'd play the poo poo out of it, but I just can't make the leap back into old-rear end Europa engine games for the DH version of it.
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Apr 26, 2016 17:47
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I don't know when I'll get a HoI IV capable computer to help, but there are people involved in the Beta test working on converting it right now.
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With the national focus mechanics it should be a lot easier to do a project like Kaiserreich.
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Apr 26, 2016 18:29
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Drone posted:One of the best things about Kaiserreich is that each playthrough can be different, and there are multiple triggers that can fire for various events. The war in Europe can start at basically any point after like 1938 I think (or not at all), the Russian Civil War can go several different directions (well, really most countries can go multiple directions), German elections can turn out wacky results ranging from fascism to social democracy. Each playthrough is something new. I think this is why I love the mod far more than the base game. In most paradox games history can go so many different directions, but Hoi has always been a WWII simulator. Not a 1930-1950 or what ever simulator, it's specifically focused on an exact war with exact sides and a player base that expects a roughly historical timeline. I often felt quite railroaded in the game, even on the really early starts. I want crazy what if's, I want the most insane alt-history outcomes.
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Apr 26, 2016 18:34
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Darkrenown posted:There's some info on the PI page: Ah gently caress, I thought the IPO would be before Stellaris and was planning on making some really good money. However the fact that it's the 31st of may gives me hope for making some good money on HOI4! What the hell is that weird Pepins thing that you're using though? Pump it up! Do it! fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Apr 26, 2016 |
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ulmont posted:Stellaris thread is this way (DD already posted there): Oh I know, but I wasn't sure if everyone went over there
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Apr 26, 2016 20:37
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I hope some of the alt govts for countries in HOI IV are fun. I want to play as the US and just obliterate canada, and push south through south america.
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Apr 26, 2016 20:45
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I'm probably not going to risk it on my first HoI IV game, but I appreciate that France has a path for going Communist right there on their national focus tree.
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Apr 26, 2016 21:04
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I'd think that would actually be a good survival strategy for France. Go communist, cozy up to the Soviets early on, then when Germany invades you get the USSR joining the war way earlier than usual and taking some of the heat off the western front.
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Apr 26, 2016 21:09
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The Cheshire Cat posted:I'd think that would actually be a good survival strategy for France. Go communist, cozy up to the Soviets early on, then when Germany invades you get the USSR joining the war way earlier than usual and taking some of the heat off the western front. That was basically their strategy before WWI, minus the Communism.
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Apr 26, 2016 21:12
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The Cheshire Cat posted:I'd think that would actually be a good survival strategy for France. Go communist, cozy up to the Soviets early on, then when Germany invades you get the USSR joining the war way earlier than usual and taking some of the heat off the western front. Yeah, actually, for all I know that might be easier than the default path! I guess we'll see when the game comes out.
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Apr 26, 2016 21:13
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The focus tree posted on the Hoi4 wiki seems to provide a pretty direct path to a Cominternship but I think changing your government type triggers a civil war, so you'd have to wrap that up first.
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Apr 26, 2016 21:15
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I expect an average game of HOI IV to have no fewer than three separate French Republics exist between 1936 and 1950.
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Kavak posted:I don't know when I'll get a HoI IV capable computer to help, but there are people involved in the Beta test working on converting it right now. I'm not in the beta and have previously only modded EU4, CK2, and V2, but I'd love to work on adapting KR to HOI4. Is there much of a hurdle to joining the mod team? Regardless, my only worry is that they'll try to just do a 1:1 adaptation when they could stand to step back and critically revise some of the larger scenario regions in KR, like South America and the US.
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Apr 26, 2016 21:33
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Spiderfist Island posted:I'm not in the beta and have previously only modded EU4, CK2, and V2, but I'd love to work on adapting KR to HOI4. Is there much of a hurdle to joining the mod team? Regardless, my only worry is that they'll try to just do a 1:1 adaptation when they could stand to step back and critically revise some of the larger scenario regions in KR, like South America and the US. Here's our website: http://cs.servegame.com/kaiserreich/index.php Traditionalism runs strong, but I'm hoping to at least revise America's economic situation and add more paths to avoid the war. What do you want to do in South America?
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Kavak, are you trying to revise some of the faction and flag stuff in America as well? I get the joke behind the north being the CSA and the Union being the south, but it really bugs me in Kaiserreich. Would be nice to have an event to pick a new flag and name for the CSA like the AUS gets... Actually, I just signed up at the forums. I might be bad at irredentist fantasies but I've got a CS degree and a copy of IntelliJ.
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Apr 26, 2016 21:45
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I don't think the names are going anywhere, but letting the player change them would be okay.
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Apr 26, 2016 21:54
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A flag choice would be cool though because iirc even New England gets one of those.
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Maybe I should get off my rear end and actually finish the USA revisions I was doing last fall.
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I agree that the "CSA" name should go because holy poo poo, but the IWW flag loving rules.
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Empress Theonora posted:I agree that the "CSA" name should go because holy poo poo, but the IWW flag loving rules. I like the Wobbly flag fine, just seems a little weird storming the beaches of North Africa under the banner of a union flag. Though I get that's the whole idea of syndicalism and all. It would be cool to have event chains to balance how far you want to take the revolution in terms of how many symbols and parts of the old US government you want to keep around if you're AUS/CSA/etc. Like maybe a full blown constitutional convention or something?
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Someone brought up a thread for that, but nothing came of it. My take (This would vary by ideology of course): Things like the Statue of Liberty and Liberty Bell aren't going anywhere, and a line would be drawn between "The War of Independence" and "The Revolution" for historical monuments. The biggest issue would be Washington D.C. itself- what happens to the White House and the Capitol? The CSA wants to govern from Chicago for a variety of reasons, so does the city just become a giant history museum of the old capitalist USA?
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Kavak posted:Someone brought up a thread for that, but nothing came of it. My take (This would vary by ideology of course): Things like the Statue of Liberty and Liberty Bell aren't going anywhere, and a line would be drawn between "The War of Independence" and "The Revolution" for historical monuments. The biggest issue would be Washington D.C. itself- what happens to the White House and the Capitol? The CSA wants to govern from Chicago for a variety of reasons, so does the city just become a giant history museum of the old capitalist USA? Put it all under the administration of the Smithsonian and make it a museum, like Versailles.
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Kavak posted:Someone brought up a thread for that, but nothing came of it. My take (This would vary by ideology of course): Things like the Statue of Liberty and Liberty Bell aren't going anywhere, and a line would be drawn between "The War of Independence" and "The Revolution" for historical monuments. The biggest issue would be Washington D.C. itself- what happens to the White House and the Capitol? The CSA wants to govern from Chicago for a variety of reasons, so does the city just become a giant history museum of the old capitalist USA? Yeah, I always wonder that myself. Especially since I can imagine a syndie America drawing on people like Lincoln in a way other revolutionaries might not. It might also be cool to have more options to meddle in the Americas. I followed Chief Savage Man's lead in his LP and made the Reed Doctrine give you an alliance with Centroamerica but I'm thinking it'd be cool to have events to prop up syndie Bolivia or Brazil against La Plata. Stuff like that.
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Slaughterhouse-Ive posted:Yeah, I always wonder that myself. Especially since I can imagine a syndie America drawing on people like Lincoln in a way other revolutionaries might not. Don't even need to counterfactual it! This was a CPUSA rally in the 1930s: 
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Slaughterhouse-Ive posted:Yeah, I always wonder that myself. Especially since I can imagine a syndie America drawing on people like Lincoln in a way other revolutionaries might not. America in general doesn't have the events to act like a world power in the same fashion as Britain or France. Of course it has the resources and industry to sustain the entire Internationale war effort on its own if need be but a little more flavor, particularly with regards to South America, would be fun.
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Please make Huey Long less fascist. AUS would be a more interesting narrative if it wasn't fascist until Long loses the 1940 elections, if he does; a legitimately viable center-populist alternative to the syndies and objectively better than MacArthur...until it all goes wrong and the racist vote gets Coughlin or Kuhn in.
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Apr 26, 2016 23:17
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The AUS seems a little undercooked. The PSA is goofy but it makes sense from a gameplay perspective since its secession gives CSA/AUS a chance to win but the AUS seems like this vague hodgepodge of populism and fascism. I'm not sure how an AUS I'd like would look though...
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Jazerus posted:Please make Huey Long less fascist. AUS would be a more interesting narrative if it wasn't fascist until Long loses the 1940 elections, if he does; a legitimately viable alternative to the syndies and objectively better than MacArthur...until it all goes wrong and the racist vote gets Coughlin or Kuhn in. Kaiserreich 2 should have Roosevelt being assassinated and Huey Long president of the United States in the 1936 start date. Without FDR there to hog all the power (and without Huey being assassinated) he'd very likely rally the support of populists and poor people in the South and the left wing of the Democratic party in order to get the Democratic nomination. Anyway, I remember that if you chose to start of with Lindbergh or the other guy that's not Kuhn or Coughlin (can't remember now, think he was a supporter or stooge of Huey Long in real life) and consistently chose to not enact policies favored by racists and enacted all of Huey Long's reforms following the war then the AUS would actually get enough slider moves towards political left that it turned into Radical Socialist and Huey Long and all his cabinet disappeared to be replaced by Market Liberals (I think Paternal Autocrat, Social Conservative and National Populist ministers weren't eligible under left-wing governments). e: Playing the AUS in the civil war is really fun by the way, and quite a nice challenge. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Apr 26, 2016 |
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GSD posted:also I've always thought "Union State" sounded really weird. There should be an option to change the name to neo-america, and if you pick it all the other countries get a choice to update their names accordingly.
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Randarkman posted:Kaiserreich 2 should have Roosevelt being assassinated and Huey Long being president of the United States in the 1936 start date. Without FDR there to hog all the power (and without Huey being assassinated) he'd very likely rally the support of populists and poor people in the South, the left wing of the Democratic party and get the Democratic nomination. There's always been a leftist path for the AUS but it's not obvious to someone who's never played as them before that that exists, and they start off hard-right. Starting in the center and having various national focuses to change the character of the AUS seems like it would be a better fit for HoI4, aside from representing a hypothetical Long coalition better anyway.
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