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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:drat I hope that the whole brother team up bit goes on for a while. These guys have some great chemistry together. They really do. Especially those moments where they just plain start having fun and laugh while in the middle of beating the poo poo out of some dudes. The huddle right before wading into the drug dealer's thugs was priceless.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 12:59 |
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bio347 posted:My initial reactionary thought was Lilith, but that doesn't make sense for any number of reasons. At least one of which doesn't have to do with the comics, even. Hopefully its a red herring and "mum" is short for some deity-level prisoner of hell that has a name that has "mum" in it.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 14:00 |
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FRINGE posted:The show writers dont seem to care that much about the comics they lifted the title from. Could be like the thing from the end of the old world of darkness RPGs, Grand Maw into Grandmother (Grand Maw/Grandma)
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 14:39 |
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You know it just occured to me that this is on the same network as Sleepy Hollow. They should totally do a crossover, it would make far more sense than the Bones one.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 15:01 |
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Potooweet posted:I was expecting him to say "Everyone." or something like that, because he didn't see anyone else when he was in Hell. Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:I was betting on Cain cause he had that "We are so hosed" look, and it fit with his brother's reaction about "whoops, taking responsibility for killing these pesky mortals" speech. FRINGE posted:Hopefully its a red herring and "mum" is short for some deity-level prisoner of hell that has a name that has "mum" in it.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 16:15 |
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I hope they don't do Lilith. Supernatural already went that direction...let's do something orginal.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 17:38 |
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Zebulon posted:They really do. Especially those moments where they just plain start having fun and laugh while in the middle of beating the poo poo out of some dudes. The huddle right before wading into the drug dealer's thugs was priceless. Personally my favorite was the funeral scene.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 18:17 |
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It's definitely Lilith. There's really only two christian mythological beings famous for openly defying god and she's the other one.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 18:21 |
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Gyges posted:Personally my favorite was the funeral scene. Oh god. I died when Amanadiel just awkwardly, politely admitted "He's right, you know." during Lucifer's rant about how the dead guy is gone and doesn't get anything out of the funeral. Falun Bong Refugee posted:It's definitely Lilith. There's really only two christian mythological beings famous for openly defying god and she's the other one. This is part of why I figured it's Lilith. She's also the only one I can think of offhand that two Angels would refer to just as "mom" given the whole mother-of-all-demons thing she has going.. It'd also give Maze something to do, given she's supposed to be the general of the Lilim from what I've heard? Whatever it is, it had Amandiel doing his best "oooooh poo poo" face, and even Lucifer seems to be somewhat concerned by it.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 18:35 |
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Welp, Maze is missing and "Mum" is out, and if it is Lilith (aka mother of all demons), Amenediel is probably thinking "Oh gently caress I just had sex with her daughter and she is gonna be PISSED " We kinda need a with a halo and a with horns to reflect the show properly...
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 18:44 |
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Idiotic fan theory: Maze has been redeemed, for saving Amenediel, with Lucifer's feather. Thoughts?
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 18:46 |
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VendaGoat posted:Idiotic fan theory: Maze has been redeemed, for saving Amenediel, with Lucifer's feather. Thought the same thing too when I saw the light. Not enough to make a call either way but that was my gut reaction.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 18:50 |
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Enh... I dunno. If "Mum" ends up being Lilith, and Maze is a demon, she might just be the person that broke her out of hell.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 19:19 |
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Enh... I dunno. If "Mum" ends up being Lilith, and Maze is a demon, she might just be the person that broke her out of hell. Ooooooo.. I like that.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 19:21 |
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The Lord Bude posted:You know it just occured to me that this is on the same network as Sleepy Hollow. They should totally do a crossover, it would make far more sense than the Bones one. It would have... had they not cancelled the show. And as for God and Lilith, couldn't it be a titan? Like Gaia, but with God having taken on many names over the years?
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 19:24 |
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Pan Dulce posted:It would have... had they not cancelled the show. I can't find any evidence that sleepy hollow has been cancelled. It's still likely, but it hasn't happened yet as far as I can tell.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 19:35 |
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I'm leaning towards mum either being entirely made up, or maybe something based on another religion? In the story of course the other religion would be based on her. Shiva? Kali? I don't know enough to make any guesses based on anything but perceived gender. Maybe like some Aztec or Mayan goddess, that would be cool. Eve could be an outlier too. Is she officially in hell for fruit related sins? Either way, that was a fun finale. I like this cheesy show.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 20:09 |
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Wikipedia tells me that Asherah was the consort of the head of the Canaanite pantheon, El, who more or less was rolled up into the Israelite deity Yahweh.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 20:59 |
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Pan Dulce posted:It would have... had they not cancelled the show. you totally scared me for a second there, thought you were talking about this show also i thought last episode was the finale so this was a pleasant surprise!
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 21:11 |
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Fantastic episode! Also thought Lucifer would reply "everyone" at the end (and geez oh geez what a crappy set they had for what's apparently a super-important bit of Hell! Loved the Auschwitz reference tho) too, but if it turns out to be Lilith, ehh.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 22:03 |
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Loved the final episode. I don't think they will do this but I hope they don't have their Mom be revealed as someone we already met. I keep thinking it's going to be the therapist. Seconding whoever says they want Lucifer and his brother to stick together more. The fight scene was pretty awesome and they do have pretty good chemistry.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 22:45 |
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Not sold on Lucifer referring to Lilith as "Mum". Lilith would be a great character to do, though. I guess even if Lilith was created long after Lucifer, she could have had free will longer than him and been a mother figure to him after becoming the Mother of Demons after Lucifer first fell. That could work. The portrayal of hell was pretty great for their budget. Chloe and Dan seeing more clues of supernatural phenomenon is good progression. Like someone else said, I was wondering if Maze was either consumed in the act of healing Amenadiel, or redeemed by it. The mythology in this show is really unclear. It's not really implied that Mazikeen was an angel, so she's a post-fall "born a demon" being... can she be raised up to heaven? It's not really clear how that would work, but it's presumably possible.
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# ? Apr 26, 2016 23:34 |
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I thought they said that Maze had been following Luci and been close with him since before The Fall.
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 00:08 |
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Enh... I dunno. If "Mum" ends up being Lilith, and Maze is a demon, she might just be the person that broke her out of hell. 'Mom, come meet my new boyfriend!'
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 00:20 |
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Gyges posted:I thought they said that Maze had been following Luci and been close with him since before The Fall. Yeah I wasn't sure. It's all very vague. Lucifer and Amenadiel are brothers, and at first I assumed that that's because they were both created by God as angels. But if Maze was an angel, they certainly don't consider her a sister. And while at least one other angel has been mentioned (Uriel), I didn't get the impression that he was their brother. So maybe things are gonna go a little farther off the Abrahamic rails here and imply that God fathered angels with more than one mother, like something Zeus would do.
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 00:33 |
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Digital Jedi posted:Loved the final episode. That would be really awkward. I think it's safe to bet that Lucifer's mum will not be revealed as a lady he's been banging all season. Did she have sex with Amenadiel too? I can't remember now.
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 00:41 |
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Snak posted:Yeah I wasn't sure. It's all very vague. Lucifer and Amenadiel are brothers, and at first I assumed that that's because they were both created by God as angels. But if Maze was an angel, they certainly don't consider her a sister. And while at least one other angel has been mentioned (Uriel), I didn't get the impression that he was their brother. Maze is explicitly a demon, created by Lucifer. I think she's his lead torturer, but that may have been someone saying something about the comic and me getting confused.
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 01:07 |
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Echophonic posted:Maze is explicitly a demon, created by Lucifer. I think she's his lead torturer, but that may have been someone saying something about the comic and me getting confused. In the comic Mazikeen is one of the Lillim, a race of magical creatures with various powers as they are children of Lillith and various spirits, lesser gods and demons.
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 02:43 |
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Echophonic posted:Maze is explicitly a demon, created by Lucifer. I think she's his lead torturer, but that may have been someone saying something about the comic and me getting confused. Really? I didn't think the show mentioned her origin. I tried to wiki it and found nothing except that "she's a demon". According to the wiki I found, she was a " Lilim" in the comic, which is a child of Lilith. Edit: partially beaten.
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 02:45 |
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Could have sworn he said she was a demon at some point. She definitely followed him to LA from hell and I'm reasonably sure he mentioned her being a torturer.
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 02:54 |
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I think she said she was a demon. She got that rocking demon face when she was sleep stalking Decker anyway.
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 03:49 |
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Echophonic posted:Could have sworn he said she was a demon at some point. She definitely followed him to LA from hell and I'm reasonably sure he mentioned her being a torturer. Yup, at one point he referred to her as 'hell's favorite torturer'.
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 04:22 |
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Season 2 main antagonist:
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 05:06 |
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I think he said mum because she's THE mother (either the first or the mother of demons) and that's just a nickname, not because it's their mom. "Chloe and Dan seeing more clues of supernatural phenomenon is good progression. " Clues? He straight up disappeared in front of at least 5 people pointing at him and later out of a room where Dan was in front of the only way out.
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 05:37 |
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My only disappointment was that Chloe was completely unaffected by seeing Lucifer up and about immediately after being "fatally" gutshot.
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 05:40 |
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He SAID he got better
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 06:21 |
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I don't read the thread because this is the kind of trashy show you like but don't need to see people making GBS threads on but I hope I wasn't the only one that was hoping he was going to say Hitler. I knew there was no chance for it but every second of anticipation and thinking was "that would take this show into the loving atmosphere".
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 06:39 |
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So I've heard a couple of positive things about the finale. Did this show become good? Does it look like another Person of Interest where they Trojan horsed a serialized plot in the guise of a procedural?
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 06:53 |
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The show was always good.
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# ? Apr 27, 2016 07:09 |
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Argue posted:So I've heard a couple of positive things about the finale. Did this show become good? Does it look like another Person of Interest where they Trojan horsed a serialized plot in the guise of a procedural? The general dynamic has remained the same but it's evolved from "The Devil helps out on crimes because he's bored" to "The Devil is dealing with issues that frequently require him to tangle with the police".
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