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WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Endman posted:

You've answered your own question, really. Perhaps returning to their country of origin means life imprisonment with real, actual torture.

I think you'll find they'd all just return to being low income scum in their own country, there is no such thing as torture unless it is happening to are diggers.

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fuckpot
May 20, 2007

Lurking beneath the water
The future Immortal awaits

Team Anasta
What happens when an asylum seeker case is rejected? Do they get sent back to their home country or is some sort of alternative offered? Seems like you'd likely be facing some harsh retribution at the very least if you were sent home.

And Manus Island is being shut - http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-27/png-pm-oneill-to-shut-manus-island-detention-centre/7364414

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

Endman posted:

You've answered your own question, really. Perhaps returning to their country of origin means life imprisonment with real, actual torture.

Yeah, this. You don't know what hell awaits him back home, just that it was evidently bad enough for him to take all the risks involved in fleeing it.

And in fact, you bring up 'you can go home anytime and we'll pay for the trip', and I don't know if I've heard that before, but... is that actually true, do we know that's true? Do we have anything resembling proof that this is ever offered in earnest, and has been taken up?

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.
I think the Cambodia deal is still on the table

which incidentally is where I plan on going if Bill Shorten ever becomes Prime Minister

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Negligent posted:

I think the Cambodia deal is still on the table

which incidentally is where I plan on going if Bill Shorten ever becomes Prime Minister

Send photos

adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

Missing you


:suicide:

Seagull
Oct 9, 2012

give me a chip

i'll save them some cash and cover the first one

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope
No-one but the biggest nutters are going to vote for Hanson. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the socialist parties got more votes.

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

gay picnic defence posted:

Sounds like it's all on the back of the property market going nuts though so we'll be proper hosed if/when it all comes crashing down.

Yeah without the hosing boom the budget would probably be proper hosed, but at least his government spending the extra cash on things like infrastructure, health and education. Half a billion on fighting domestic violence, which is very good and very need expenditure as well.

Opposition leader was saying they should be spending it on tax cuts.

lol.

Brayds2006
Aug 21, 2011

Do they have any other policies or is this literally it?

Seagull
Oct 9, 2012

give me a chip

Starshark posted:

No-one but the biggest nutters are going to vote for Hanson. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the socialist parties got more votes.

anecdotal but they pull a solid crowd in the shire, i've actually met the nsw party leader

:itwaspoo:

Seagull
Oct 9, 2012

give me a chip
of course "the shire is racist" is an entirely unsurprising statement

Amethyst
Mar 28, 2004

I CANNOT HELP BUT MAKE THE DCSS THREAD A FETID SWAMP OF UNFUN POSTING
plz notice me trunk-senpai

Starshark posted:

No-one but the biggest nutters are going to vote for Hanson. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the socialist parties got more votes.

No-one but the biggest nutters are going to vote for Trump. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the social parties got more votes.

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.
btw we do pay for asylum seekers to go home

Mr Gigauri says the IOM has been running its AVR programme on Manus Island since July 2013 when the detention centre re-opened, and is funded by the Australian government. He says it has assisted 450 people to return to their home countries by taking care of logistics, transit documentation and reintegration, which sometimes involves payment to help people resettle in their home country. Mr Giguari says the process of voluntary return is treated on a case-by-case basis, involves a number of interviews and in no way is coercion involved.

http://www.radionz.co.nz/international/programmes/datelinepacific/audio/20166683/iom-denies-preying-on-manus-asylum-seekers

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)
So we could instead pay for people to fly over here and stop the problem of deaths at sea?

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Negative gearing will be quarantined to non-muslims.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

So we could instead pay for people to fly over here and stop the problem of deaths at sea?

But Barnaby said they had stopped, this morning. Why, don't you trust Barnaby? He even asked why don't the refugees have a voice, why aren't we hearing their story? Gosh :iiam:

Starshark
Dec 22, 2005
Doctor Rope

Amethyst posted:

No-one but the biggest nutters are going to vote for Trump. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the social parties got more votes.

:allears:

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Amethyst posted:

No-one but the biggest nutters are going to vote for Trump. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the social parties got more votes.

This analogy doesn't really work, it's more like if Trump were running a decade later as a washed up independent and Hillary had already made the Mexicans pay for a wall.

Negligent
Aug 20, 2013

Its just lovely here this time of year.
the boats have actually stopped, its the people already in camps that are regarded as a turd that wont flush by p duddy

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Negligent posted:

the boats have actually stopped, its the people already in camps that are regarded as a turd that wont flush by p duddy

Have we stopped purchasing orange life boats?

Pickled Tink
Apr 28, 2012

Have you heard about First Dog? It's a very good comic I just love.

Also, wear your bike helmets kids. I copped several blows to the head but my helmet left me totally unscathed.



Finally you should check out First Dog as it's a good comic I like it very much.
Fun Shoe
First Dog:



Also, many kitten pictures:




BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

LibertyCat posted:

Serious, non-trolling question: I am not kidding when I say I was more moved during the events of the Mass Effect series than I ever was by the works of Beethoven or Leonardo da Vinci.

a good question raised by libertycat

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
What was the adblock filter for blocking first dog posts?

I would blow Dane Cook fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Apr 27, 2016

Solemn Sloth
Jul 11, 2015

Baby you can shout at me,
But you can't need my eyes.

Starshark posted:

No-one but the biggest nutters are going to vote for Hanson. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the socialist parties got more votes.

img-queensland

adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

Missing you

Brayds2006 posted:

Do they have any other policies or is this literally it?

They have a few others (bolding is theirs)

quote:

Agenda 21/2030 (a.k.a Sustainable Development)

In 1992, Paul Keating signed Agenda 21 on behalf of Australia. 178 Nations around the world signed Agenda 21. What is Agenda 21 you may ask? In short, it’s about global land use, global education, and global population control and reduction.

Maurice Strong, Secretary General of the UN’s Earth Summit 1992 said, “Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class - involving high meat intake, use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and work air conditioning, and suburban housing are not sustainable.”

Imagine if the government was purposefully rationing the use of electricity, water, petrol and natural gas, and that the enactment of these policies came from your local government's committee or department of sustainability?

These local government (council) sustainability boards will decide how much energy, water, and other natural resources your home is allowed to use, limiting your ability to wash your dishes, take a shower or bath, flush the toilet, and drink a glass of water - regardless of the size of your household or how many children you have.

quote:

Affordable Energy - Climate Science

WHAT IS THE CLIMATE CHANGE AGENDA?

Climate change has and will continue to be used as a political agenda by politicians and self interest groups or individuals for their own gain. We cannot allow scare mongering by people such as Tim Flannery, who make outlandish statements and are not held accountable. Climate change should not be about making money for a lot of people and giving scientists a job. Lets know the facts and make a well informed decision as to how best to look after our environment.

Paying a carbon tax or an ETS tax is not going to wave a magic wand and stop climate change if it truly is happening. It will only make it harder for Australian families and businesses to make ends meet. We can address real environmental issues with legislation. Hitting struggling families and businesses with another tax is designed to make some people a lot of money, who have set up companies and business to reap the rewards. Don't allow yourself to be gullible and misled.

Our solution is comprehensive because core problems cannot be solved by adhoc, one-off party politics. That failed Lib-Lab approach, combined with Greens grandstanding, is causing Australia’s deterioration.

quote:

HALAL CERTIFICATION

Do you realise that you are paying a tax/surcharge that funds ISLAMIC SCHOOLS AND MOSQUES, when you do your shopping? What is also believed is that it funds terrorism.

In October 2010, news broke about how the Campbell’s Soup Company received an Islamic (halal) certification for some of its product line, and many were outraged. There was a legitimate concern – not with the fact that Campbell’s received the certification, but with what organisation the certification came from, that being the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) which is a group co-founded by Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ) leader Sami al-Arian.

In 2007 and 2008, ISNA was named by the U.S. Justice Department as a co-conspirator for two federal trials dealing with the financing of millions of dollars to Hamas. The defendants of the trials were the leaders of the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development (HLF) and HLF itself. In the end, each was found guilty of all charges.

...

Halal certification is a money making racket. Other products with Halal certification include food essence, make up and cosmetics, clothing, transport, conveyor belts, cold storage, cleaning products, pet food, holidays, medicine and vitamins. The race is on to establish powerful international pharmaceutical ‘halal’ brands with an estimated worth of $500 billion per annum.

...

This tax is an impost on the Australian consumer, of which 98% are non-Muslim. Australians are struggling to meet every day cost of living and should not be forced to pay extra. Another great concern is, that some of the monies indirectly supports terrorism. 60% of Halal food in France is controlled by an organisation belonging to the Muslim Brotherhood. Other taxes collected go to Islamic schools and mosques or directly in to the pockets of those who see this as a viable profit making business.

Pauline Hanson's One Nation will call for the banning of Australian and non-Australian companies operating in Australia from paying a Halal certification tax. Collecting monies for this certification will be illegal.

All products that are Halal Certified must be clearly marked and easily identified by consumers.


Companies that wish to export product to Muslim countries must gain Halal certification from our Government.

quote:

MULTICULTURALISM

Multiculturalism has failed everywhere. It is negative and divisive, a weight that is drowning our once safe and cohesive society. One Nation will abolish multiculturalism and the Racial Discrimination Act and promote assimilation, nationalism, loyalty and pride in being an Australian.

As a government policy, multi-racialism encompassed measures to destroy the Australian culture. It played a large part in migrant selection in an attempt to prevent them from assimilating into Australian society. Exactly what was done and admitted to in England.

One Nation intends to abolish multiculturalism and the Racial Discrimination Act of 1975 based on the United Nations Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination as it is unconstitutional. We would replace it with a policy of assimilation in which it will be made clear to all those applying to migrate to Australia that coming to Australia is a privilege that gives them an overriding, unifying commitment to Australia, to its past, current interests and future first and foremost.

They must accept the basic structures and principles of Australian heritage, society and culture, the constitution and the rule of law, tolerance and equality, parliamentary democracy, freedom of speech and religion, and English as the national language. Whilst they may come from other countries and cultures, loyalty to Australia and Australian Nationalism must come first.

Discretion: This means freedom of judgement or choice to choose wisely. With the current terrorist problems this is essential. It is not intended to stereotype any group. Our policy in this regard has nothing to do with race, it is all about protecting our country from a real threat. One Nation will withdraw from UN Treaties on migration and refugees that conflict with our sovereign rights and laws. One Nation proposes that immigration should become the Department of Customs and Immigration, responsible for protection of our coastline from illegal boat people, invaders, goods (drugs, firearms) and terrorists. Also control and monitoring of entry and leaving of people and goods, issue of passports, visas and other documents.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
Does anyone have family or friends that live in/lived in Australia that do not speak English. I always assumed it would be extremely difficult.

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

quote:

Pregnant asylum seekers detained on Nauru could be exposed to the Zika virus, with the Department of Immigration and Border Protection confirming there had been cases of the mosquito-borne disease on the island nation.

The revelation was made in the department's submission to the Senate inquiry into the treatment of asylum seekers at Australia's regional processing centres on Nauru and Manus Island.

Detainees have been issued with heavy-duty insect repellent in order to fend off the virus, which has been linked to a serious birth defect of the brain called microcephaly.

:thumbsup:

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
:siren:Essential: 52-48 to the ALP:siren:

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

all hail blib snooten

Brayds2006
Aug 21, 2011
Big Banter Bill's going in for the kill.

SMILLENNIALSMILLEN
Jun 26, 2009



Anybody see lateline? Did people on naru set themself on fire and drink laundry soap because they knew unhcr were on the island? :eyepoop:


Jumpingmanjim posted:

Does anyone have family or friends that live in/lived in Australia that do not speak English. I always assumed it would be extremely difficult.

Ive known a couple of people whos parents were from the old country, they watched sbs and hung out with other expats

Ettin
Oct 2, 2010

Anidav posted:

:siren:Essential: 52-48 to the ALP:siren:

If Turnbull claws the Prime Ministership from Abbott only to lose it to Bill loving Shorten of all people I am going to laugh until I cry

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
Bill Shorten may be a cardboard cutout but atleast he's solid in comparison to the wet paper that is this government.

BBJoey
Oct 31, 2012

quote:

They must accept the basic structures and principles of Australian heritage, society and culture, the constitution and the rule of law, tolerance and equality, parliamentary democracy, freedom of speech and religion, and English as the national language.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008

Is that an Oxford comma I see? To Manus with this Pauline Hanson person.

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
I'd like to note that as of now the Iranian man burning himself is absent from news.com.au entirely.

It doesn't exist.

MiniSune
Sep 16, 2003

Smart like Dodo!

Ettin posted:

If Turnbull claws the Prime Ministership from Abbott only to lose it to Bill loving Shorten of all people I am going to laugh until I cry

Only would be topped by a glorious counter revolution in the libs and the return of the one true king - Abbot the great.

The Peccadillo
Mar 4, 2013

We Have Important Work To Do

Ettin posted:

If Turnbull claws the Prime Ministership from Abbott only to lose it to Bill loving Shorten of all people I am going to laugh until I cry

Hahahahaha

Can someone sum up the cool things in the last thousand or so posts for me? I ain't read before the last couple days. What happened with Libertycat?

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MaliciousOnion
Sep 23, 2009

Ignorance, the root of all evil
Apparently Blip Smallgoods will be chatting to Tom Gleeson next week on The Weekly with Charlie PickeringTM.

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