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Bobo the Red posted:They could easily be plunging Dorne into the dumbest civil war ever. Yes. Get used to it.
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My uncle works at HBO and knows this . Episode 5 Jon revives and try to get Dorne Support agaisnt the Bolton , at the end of the episode it is revealed taht Peter finger id the uncle of theon
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Apr 27, 2016 05:43
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Bobo the Red posted:They all ignore the fact that Oberyn got his own dumbass killed. So they come up with a half assed plan to kill Myrcella. They fail. For whatever reason, they are allowed to be near the girl they tried to kill again, so they succeed this time. The fact that Doran then allows them "to be near the girl they tried to kill again" and they succeed is like a small-scale outcome of the Westeros politics - being soft or perceived as soft on people/other nations gets you/your country killed in the long run because people don't necessarily see things the way you do and will take advantage or become contemptuous of your authority.
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Apr 27, 2016 05:49
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Vegetable posted:Ned's death and the Red Wedding both got about the same amount of foreshadowing. Actually, given where the show ended up, it would have made more sense to have the events of the plot arranged in a different order. Something like: - Show Ellaria arguing with Doran about the need for revenge, with him assuring her that things are already in motion, making the viewer believe he's planning something immediate rather than some drawn out scheme. - Cersei sends Jamie to Dorn. Reestablish Doran as a threat through the dialogue. - Jaime and Bronn arrive in Dorn. - Jamie and Bronn fight Dornish soldiers, who as established, operate under Doran's orders. Make one of them someone from a lesser Dornish house, and establish that the lesser houses want some kind of revenge too. - Jamie and Bronn are caught by the Sand Snakes, and held by them for a while, with Ellaria arguing for them being given to Doran for punishment and the kids wanting to kill him right there. They eventually defer to her greater experience and authority. - Doran releases Jamie right after he explains why he has come. Show a look of disbelief in the eyes of both the Sand Snakes, and the guards. - Have Doran assassinated, and Jamie, Bronn, Myrcella, and Trystane, attempt to flee Sunspear. Myrcella and Trystane die in the attempt. meristem posted:Just think of Ellaria as of fantasy Bush, and it all makes sense.
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Apr 27, 2016 06:01
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I just got done watching After the Thrones. Why does this exist? It barely scrapes the surface of discussing basic themes. "Hey, this character is here and doing this." No poo poo, I picked up on that. I'm pretty sure it's designed for the people who can't pay attention and complain that a basic plot point wasn't explained in the scene that it was explained in. I forgot how much I love Edd. I think it was in Hardhome when he sees all of the corpses coming over the cliff (or is it when they break through the wall?)...he just runs and screams "Ahhhh gently caress." Has it been discussed if being dead for a longer period of time has greater consequences when you're resurrected? The only time we see this, Beric Dondaerion is revived quickly after the Hound kills him. I'm also curious of Melisandre's necklace can be transferred. Jon Snow would look dashing. DrKrankenwagen fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Apr 27, 2016 |
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Apr 27, 2016 06:24
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Vegetable posted:Reading the whole thing does make you think it'd have been cool as hell to see Areo fight. That giant fuckoff battle axe This is my problem. If you can't flesh out a character, then why add them only to have to clumsily sweep them under the rug later? The show subtlety hints at him being a badass, and then dispatches him by having a girl stand on a stack of phonebooks and kill him with an appetizer fork. It's comically bad.
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Apr 27, 2016 06:36
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Cersei's gonna find out about that necklace and spend the last of the Lannister family's resources trying to obtain it
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Apr 27, 2016 06:37
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DrKrankenwagen posted:I forgot how much I love Edd. I think it was in Hardhome when he sees all of the corpses coming over the cliff...he just runs and screams "Ahhhh gently caress." Edd is the one person I have no fear for of ever dying, cause the guy living on with his attitude and being the last survivor of the OG crew now is far greater punishment for him prolly lol. Still, love the way the actor portrays him and  'd hard at: "It's a sad loving statement if Dolorous Edd is our only chance!"
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Apr 27, 2016 06:40
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CrazyLoon posted:Edd is the one person I have no fear for of ever dying, cause the guy living on with his attitude and being the last survivor of the OG crew now is far greater punishment for him prolly lol. Still, love the way the actor portrays him and He reflects my personality so well. I think he can get poo poo done when it comes to the Lord Commander. We need more Edd scenes: "My blessed mother. I was holding her hand when she left this world - she farted so hard, the whole bed shook."
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Apr 27, 2016 06:47
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LegalPad posted:This is my problem. If you can't flesh out a character, then why add them only to have to clumsily sweep them under the rug later? Also, it helped deceived book readers into thinking that Doran would be a big thing, and that's always a plus for me.
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Apr 27, 2016 09:24
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I'm just waiting for Littlefinger to pop up out of the shadows in Dorne and be all like "Yes, you've all played your parts perfectly, my evil plan is falling into place mwahahahaha!!!" 
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Apr 27, 2016 09:44
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Zaphod42 posted:But this is exactly why the show should slow down and do things like Aegon's subplot rather than sprinting through all the books just to catch up with GRRM so they can write their own story. They should not have done that at all. When you have too many limitations (budget, schedule, etc.) you can end up with badly done poo poo like the Dorne plot on the show. But when you have no limitations (no deadlines, no editing) you end up with meandering horseshit like the Dorne plot on the books, which is equally bad. The show is already going to run for 7-8 seasons which is on the long side for serialized drama. There is no way you can have a ten-twelve season long serialized storyline with an extremely high budget. Interest would wane and the whole thing would be untenable (this is without even getting into the fact that a lot of the cast is fairly young). The books are already untenable: it's taking five years to release a single book, for the past decade and a half, and the majority of the new books are dedicated to building up new poo poo. It's insane and bad. Pedro De Heredia fucked around with this message at 09:53 on Apr 27, 2016 |
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Apr 27, 2016 09:51
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I just find the sand snakes to be probably my least liked characters on a show with ramsay bolton. Icing on the cake is that they murdered one of the more level headed rulers on the whole show, which in GoT logic is his own fault because he didn't execute them at the first slight.
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Apr 27, 2016 11:01
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Libertine posted:They landed on a trampoline park, it was pretty fortunate. The best part is they killed the kennel master's daughter by throwing her off the wall... and then escaped by jumping off the exact same wall.
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Apr 27, 2016 11:30
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Just look up Russians jumping off buildings into snow.
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Apr 27, 2016 11:35
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Different part of the wall, into a large snow bank and not the floor of a yard where it's all been swept away. Do we need to post the videos again of real men doing the same thing?
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Apr 27, 2016 11:37
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Getting shoved off a platform and jumping off the very same platform is also very different, Theon and Sansa were clearly jumping with their legs first and the such, Myranda was shoved so she'd have a significantly harder time absorbing the energy with her legs. And the snow. yeah. Really it's not a very good thing to complain about, it's not a fantastic sequence by any stretch given that it still makes you go 'huh?' but it's a tiny bit plausible which is more than enough for a TV show. The teleporting snakes however... emanresu tnuocca fucked around with this message at 12:14 on Apr 27, 2016 |
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Apr 27, 2016 11:43
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AMReese posted:Different part of the wall, into a large snow bank and not the floor of a yard where it's all been swept away. Some of those guys set themselves on fire first though, and I didn't see Sansa and Theon doing that. So much for your "theory"...
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Apr 27, 2016 11:58
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I have a feeling the only reason that the Dorne subplot exists is so that there will be a major house in Westeros to support Dany once she manages to cross the sea. They've talked about women being fit rulers and would support a queen. They also would have boats to help her get across I presume.
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Apr 27, 2016 12:08
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Master Twig posted:I have a feeling the only reason that the Dorne subplot exists is so that there will be a major house in Westeros to support Dany once she manages to cross the sea. They've talked about women being fit rulers and would support a queen. They also would have boats to help her get across I presume. They do have a lot in common: they act rashly, they're kinslayers, their plotlines are uninteresting interruptions to the cool poo poo
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Bobo the Red posted:They do have a lot in common: they act rashly, they're kinslayers, their plotlines are uninteresting interruptions to the cool poo poo Calling Dany a kinslayer is a bit of a stretch, her oaf of a brother held her at swordpoint and told Drogo he'll cut up the embryo out of her stomach, in Vaes Dothrak of all places. it can be argued that Dany could have possibly pleaded for his life but she didn't kill him herself and Drogo was justified in executing him either way.
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Apr 27, 2016 12:17
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Calling Dany a kinslayer is a bit of a stretch, her oaf of a brother held her at swordpoint and told Drogo he'll cut up the embryo out of her stomach, in Vaes Dothrak of all places. it can be argued that Dany could have possibly pleaded for his life but she didn't kill him herself and Drogo was justified in executing him either way. I guess. She definitely had to the power to spare him, and didn't. She did also Drogo; don't know if that counts.
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Myron posted:Some of those guys set themselves on fire first though, and I didn't see Sansa and Theon doing that. So much for your "theory"... 
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Apr 27, 2016 12:35
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itshammertime66 posted:I'm just waiting for Littlefinger to pop up out of the shadows in Dorne and be all like "Yes, you've all played your parts perfectly, my evil plan is falling into place mwahahahaha!!!" Littlefinger takes off his shirt and the camera pans on his body for no reason for like 3 minutes
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Apr 27, 2016 13:15
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Runs in wildly out of breath. Takes a deep inhale, bent over hands on his knees. Looks up. "Dorne." Turns around to leave and looks back . "Sand snakes. " Runs down the hall out of the thread and shouts, "God tier tits."
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Apr 27, 2016 13:40
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Master Twig posted:I have a feeling the only reason that the Dorne subplot exists is so that there will be a major house in Westeros to support Dany once she manages to cross the sea. They've talked about women being fit rulers and would support a queen. They also would have boats to help her get across I presume. I actually hope we'll get a War of Five Queens between the Sand Snakes, Dany, Cersei, Sansa, and Theon's sister.
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QuoProQuid posted:I actually hope we'll get a War of Five Queens between the Sand Snakes, Dany, Cersei, Sansa, and Theon's sister. War of dah bad pooseh
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Phi230 posted:War of dah bad pooseh The TV IV > Game of Thrones: Season 6 - War of dah bad pooseh Make it happen.
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Apr 27, 2016 16:27
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Phi230 posted:War of dah bad pooseh You're not wrong, Bronn is almost certainly a Dornish agent now.
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Apr 27, 2016 16:48
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Maarak posted:You're not wrong, Bronn is almost certainly a Dornish agent now. Oh motherfuck, they could have actually killed Trystane this way and it would have worked since we know that Lannisters' goldmines are running dry.
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Apr 27, 2016 17:06
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Lloyd Boner posted:Just look up Russians jumping off buildings into snow. Yeah. In the North, that's a thing people are going to know about as a possible thing to do.
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Golem II posted:When's Hodor showing up? Bran was in the ep preview so probably this Sunday. 
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Apr 27, 2016 18:29
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This was a good ep, but then I've been mostly watching the Walking Dead for a couple of months. Was Witchtitties getting into bed with John's corpse in that last shot?
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Apr 27, 2016 19:19
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No, Jon was on a table in a different room.
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Ok, boner killed.
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QuoProQuid posted:I actually hope we'll get a War of Five Queens between the Sand Snakes, Dany, Cersei, Sansa, and Theon's sister. I read a fan theory that mentioned how Martin was a conscientious objector during the Vietnam war, since he believes wars are violent and miserable and stupid. It would be weird for the story to end with another yet war, "but a good one this time." Rather, the story will be resolved somehow through diplomacy and compromise rather than some dramatic battle between dragons and zombies. I personally like to think that that theory connects with the "Five Queens" theory. Dany arrives ready to "break the wheel" (dismantling patriarchal nobility) and finds it's easy to do since most of the men have already gotten themselves killed for stupid reasons. The queens of Westeros, led by Dany, then manage to figure out how to stop the Others without millions dying in some climactic, Tolkein-esque battle. It wouldn't make for good TV though so it probably won't happen that way, but I'd like it. I think it would be good. EccoRaven fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Apr 27, 2016 |
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Apr 27, 2016 19:46
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EccoRaven posted:I read a fan theory that mentioned how Martin was a conscientious objector during the Vietnam war, since he believes wars are violent and miserable and stupid. It would be weird for the story to end with another yet war, "but a good one this time." Rather, the story will be resolved somehow through diplomacy and compromise rather than some dramatic battle between dragons and zombies.
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