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GRRM is definitely going back and rewriting poo poo to make it different from the show, just out of spite. Because if there's one thing that fat gently caress needs, yet another reason to delay the books.
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Demiurge4 posted:I think I get it now. They are just loving with GRRM at this point because they think they own GoT now.
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Apr 27, 2016 17:09
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If/when GRRM dies TWoW and ADoS die with him.
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Apr 27, 2016 17:10
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counterfeitsaint posted:GRRM is definitely going back and rewriting poo poo to make it different from the show, just out of spite. Because if there's one thing that fat gently caress needs, yet another reason to delay the books.
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Apr 27, 2016 17:18
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Depends what happens to it, really. Maybe he'll pull a Barrie and leave the rights to the wolf sanctuary he loves, and they'll hire someone to go through the remainder and publish it. It seems like GRRM himself doesn't care much what happens to his world when he dies, but that doesn't mean it will be left alone.
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Apr 27, 2016 17:21
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counterfeitsaint posted:GRRM is definitely going back and rewriting poo poo to make it different from the show, just out of spite. I doubt it, because I doubt most of the show's decisions are based on his notes. Like the only thing vaguely similar to how things were left in ADWD is the Wall, and some of Braavos.
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Apr 27, 2016 17:26
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Any book fan who is going to quit the (book) series because of the show bringing closure to the story probably wouldn't have read/bought the final books anyways. At that point you might as well just read a wikipedia plot summery of the ending and be done with it. The story is good because GRRM is telling it, and it's even more obvious now that D&D have run out of book and are just stumbling through plot points now.
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Apr 27, 2016 17:26
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LegalPad posted:At that point you might as well just read a wikipedia plot summery of the ending and be done with it. Note that people ITT have literally said they want this. Then again you're drawing from the same people who said they wanted Half Life 3 to "finish the story".
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Apr 27, 2016 17:27
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I hope when he dies D&D finish the book series, and match out up perfectly with the show.
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Apr 27, 2016 17:27
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computer parts posted:Note that people ITT have literally said they want this. No doubt, but that has nothing to do with the show. That's book fans losing patience with GRRM.
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Apr 27, 2016 17:29
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Ashcans posted:Depends what happens to it, really. Maybe he'll pull a Barrie and leave the rights to the wolf sanctuary he loves, and they'll hire someone to go through the remainder and publish it. Brandon Sanderson supposedly did a good job wrapping up Wheel of Time (which was even more of a mess.) We'll probably get Dave Hill. Olly can kill the Night's King and take his place or something.
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Apr 27, 2016 17:31
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Soo when Stannis had sex with Mel, was that a 200 year old tree vagina or 30 year old tight vagina?
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Apr 27, 2016 17:33
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LegalPad posted:Any book fan who is going to quit the (book) series because of the show bringing closure to the story probably wouldn't have read/bought the final books anyways. At that point you might as well just read a wikipedia plot summery of the ending and be done with it. I quit the books halfway through book 5 because I had just read a book and a half of terrible bloat. The non book stuff D&D added early on, especially in season 1 was amazing. I think there is some rule that tv shows can only get worst after like their 4th season. whatever7 posted:Soo when Stannis had sex with Mel, was that a 200 year old tree vagina or 30 year old tight vagina? I think you know the answer to this.
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Apr 27, 2016 17:45
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Narmi posted:If/when GRRM dies TWoW and ADoS die with him. I think TWoW will be published even if it's just a flimsy collection of however many pages he'll have written up to that point. Edit it a little and fill in the blanks then see if they can get a ghostwriter for part 2. Too much money involved not to. His publishers could compile all the sample chapter's he's released, should be enough of them for a novella at least. 
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Apr 27, 2016 17:47
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The more I think about it the more likely I think it is that we'll see Lady Stoneheart this season. With Thoros confirmed back and Jaime in the Riverlands it makes perfect sense to have him get kidnapped/led to her in some way. It would explain the shot of Podrick getting snatched at the Lannister camp, and given how this show has devolved into the most frivolous soap opera drama, make a great stinger. You don't show Stoneheart earlier because what do you do with her and Brienne for like a full season while waiting for Jaime to get caught too? You can't just twiddle your thumbs. Now you capture both of them at the same time and get the same results. Who knows though.
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Apr 27, 2016 17:48
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Gin_Rummy posted:This may be a stupid question at this point, but is Stannis 100% for-sure dead? We never saw the actual act of killing, nor did we see a body. I know Stephen Dillane wasn't credited in this episode, but does that mean he is out for the whole season/show now? Stannis is waiting for his opportunity after the feint he made in the previous season, relax.
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Apr 27, 2016 17:58
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Have Beric resurrect the Hound instead and he can lead the Brotherhood, overcome his fear of fire by becoming a fire-zombie, hang Brienne then fight his brother who is also a zombie. It'd be dumb as hell but in a good way.
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Apr 27, 2016 18:02
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The Hound is probably not dead in the show too (they never saw him dying) Have Toros resurrect Ned Stark and be StoneHeadless, now that would be cool
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Apr 27, 2016 18:06
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Stannis was mercy killed before he could find out Melisandre's real age, let the man rest in peace imo.
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Apr 27, 2016 18:19
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whatever7 posted:Soo when Stannis had sex with Mel, was that a 200 year old tree vagina or 30 year old tight vagina? "You want a good girl, but you need the bad pussy" was foreshadowing.
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Apr 27, 2016 18:22
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I'm still holding out hope for a resurrected RobbWind
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Apr 27, 2016 18:25
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Narmi posted:The guy who played Barristan wanted to stay on, and seemed to really like his character. He actually told D&D that killing Barristan off the way they did made no sense and was a mistake, and asked if he could stay on. They told him no, then they went on a q&a session and made fun of him. It's not an actor's place to question the writing, so I see where D&D are coming from from a professional standpoint. That being said, he was right and may as well be a writer on the show. Also, them joking about him like that is lovely.
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Apr 27, 2016 18:26
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Syncopated posted:Stannis was mercy killed before he could find out Melisandre's real age, let the man rest in peace imo. The Stannismentum can't be stopped.
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Apr 27, 2016 18:30
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B-Hard posted:It's not an actor's place to question the writing, so I see where D&D are coming from from a professional standpoint. That being said, he was right and may as well be a writer on the show. Also, them joking about him like that is lovely. Err.. yeah it is, there are plenty of bits of classic cinema history that exist solely because of actors pointing out flaws in, and advising on changes to the script. Like any good joint creative endeavour, it's only healthy and professional to have that feedback.
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Apr 27, 2016 18:37
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B-Hard posted:It's not an actor's place to question the writing, so I see where D&D are coming from from a professional standpoint. This attitude would have given us Han Solo saying "I love you too" to Leia in Empire.
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Apr 27, 2016 18:48
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Captain Splendid posted:Son, speared. 
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Apr 27, 2016 18:50
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Ashcans posted:Depends what happens to it, really. Maybe he'll pull a Barrie and leave the rights to the wolf sanctuary he loves, and they'll hire someone to go through the remainder and publish it. It seems like GRRM himself doesn't care much what happens to his world when he dies, but that doesn't mean it will be left alone. That's not true at all unless there has been some recent interview I don't know of. GRMM has stated in the past that he wouldn't let another author finish his books or write in that world and he doesn't think his wife would either. So yeah we'll get book 6 (maybe) and it would take a damned miracle for him to write book 7 unless he lives a lot longer than he looks like he should.
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Apr 27, 2016 18:59
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B-Hard posted:It's not an actor's place to question the writing, so I see where D&D are coming from from a professional standpoint. That being said, he was right and may as well be a writer on the show. Also, them joking about him like that is lovely. I half agree - I think that he has the right (and was right) to give his opinion to the writers, but he shouldn't have gone off publicly on them. Though I can understand that a lot of people had a problem with his death so he was probably asked that a lot and decided to come clean about how he felt. Both parties should have kept the exchange behind the scenes, but D&D joking about killing him off makes them look worse IMO. e: Kit Harington going from looking like he was having fun to looking awkward when they said that kind of sums up the exchange. Narmi fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Apr 27, 2016 |
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Apr 27, 2016 19:03
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Mike N Eich posted:The more I think about it the more likely I think it is that we'll see Lady Stoneheart this season. With Thoros confirmed back and Jaime in the Riverlands it makes perfect sense to have him get kidnapped/led to her in some way. It would explain the shot of Podrick getting snatched at the Lannister camp, and given how this show has devolved into the most frivolous soap opera drama, make a great stinger. But you can't write a good ending for lady stoneheart! That's why this zombie poo poo is dumb! It also makes zombie Jon a character people hard to root for. GURM should have rewritten the series from book 4 and time skip most of the poo poo. And give book readers a lol $5 coupon to buy the revised book 4 and 5.
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Apr 27, 2016 19:09
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Ginette Reno posted:That's not true at all unless there has been some recent interview I don't know of. GRMM has stated in the past that he wouldn't let another author finish his books or write in that world and he doesn't think his wife would either. Oh, the only thing I know is that when people ask him 'What happens when you die!!!' he tells them that's an rear end in a top hat question to ask and that if he's dying the last thing he's going to worry about is providing resolution on all his writing. I hadn't seen that he specifically didn't want anyone else to touch it. Maybe we'll never get an ending then, which will be kind of ironic because then his 'no one writes it but me' stance will make the show's conclusion the de facto ending for everyone.
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Apr 27, 2016 19:12
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whatever7 posted:But you can't write a good ending for lady stoneheart! That's why this zombie poo poo is dumb! Yes you can, Arya encounters her, realizes that this is what revenge ultimately looks like, and gives the undead shade of her mother the gift of mercy like the Hound showed her.
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Apr 27, 2016 19:13
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Soup du Jour posted:Yes you can, Arya encounters her, realizes that this is what revenge ultimately looks like, and gives the undead shade of her mother the gift of mercy like the Hound showed her. Nah her character arc ends with brainwashed Arya assassinating Jon, and then wake up from the spell.
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Apr 27, 2016 19:15
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For people having trouble with books 4 & 5, I highly recommend reading the compilation "Ball of Beasts". Made it much more enjoyable.
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Apr 27, 2016 19:16
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Narmi posted:I half agree - I think that he has the right (and was right) to give his opinion to the writers, but he shouldn't have gone off publicly on them. Though I can understand that a lot of people had a problem with his death so he was probably asked that a lot and decided to come clean about how he felt. Someone filmed the exhcange. "We have a new writer now." Ague Proof fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Apr 27, 2016 |
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Apr 27, 2016 19:19
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whatever7 posted:But you can't write a good ending for lady stoneheart! I would very much like the series to end with a Stoneheart/Littlefinger scene.
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Apr 27, 2016 19:20
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Soup du Jour posted:Yes you can, Arya encounters her, realizes that this is what revenge ultimately looks like, and gives the undead shade of her mother the gift of mercy like the Hound showed her. I legitimately really like this idea.
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Apr 27, 2016 19:43
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Promethium posted:I would very much like the series to end with a Stoneheart/Littlefinger scene. You mean like Stoneheart pushing Littlefinger out of the moon door? This twist only works if Littlefinger win the game of Thrones (and inseminate Sansa with a little littlefinger).
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Apr 27, 2016 19:48
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Ague Proof posted:"We have a new writer now." Dave Hill wrote all the Histories & Lore extras which are pretty good.
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Apr 27, 2016 19:50
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why is he called littlefinger. his fingers looked normal length to me. he aint trump.
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His father was a landed knight who held land on the Fingers, which are a set of narrow peninsulas that extend from the Vale into the narrow sea. The Tully children nicknamed him 'Littlefinger' because his family's holdings were the smallest on the Fingers. Also it was probably a dick joke.
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