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When is beta 2 estimated for? I looked at their page and saw a picture of a beard glasses guy holding a nerf crossbow at work only to reflect on how it cost probably about what I contributed to this video game that isn't ready for me to beta test yet three years later. I will try to keep my posts here 50 percent more optimistic than the Shroud of The Avatar thread, only because if both fail I will look and feel very dumb.
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Mar 19, 2016 05:23
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extra stout posted:When is beta 2 estimated for? I looked at their page and saw a picture of a beard glasses guy holding a nerf crossbow at work only to reflect on how it cost probably about what I contributed to this video game that isn't ready for me to beta test yet three years later. I will try to keep my posts here 50 percent more optimistic than the Shroud of The Avatar thread, only because if both fail I will look and feel very dumb. We have no estimate for Beta 2 access atm. Beta 1 is scheduled for before the end of winter. The game is still in Alpha. The access that Beta 1 testers have now is not full access, it is a compromise because Beta has been significantly delayed.
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Mar 19, 2016 06:12
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I don't follow this very well but is a Q2 2017 release looking likely?
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Mar 19, 2016 13:48
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ExHumus posted:We have no estimate for Beta 2 access atm. Beta 1 is scheduled for before the end of winter. The game is still in Alpha. The access that Beta 1 testers have now is not full access, it is a compromise because Beta has been significantly delayed. End of winter...so even if beta 2 began 3 months after beta 1 ends, beta 2 would still be two years behind? How is this even possible to do with rich guy funding and another 4 million or something from the public? Alexander DeLarge posted:I don't follow this very well but is a Q2 2017 release looking likely? At this rate that is literally when beta 2 will begin. Maybe a Christmas 2018 release? edit I'll add nice words: This game has like 45 really cool looking classes, but I definitely would rather have 20 sooner than 45 later. Seems like a huge task. Also is there a general agreement that we're playing Vikings or are you guys some kind of furries? extra stout fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Mar 19, 2016 |
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Mar 19, 2016 19:23
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As a programmer, I'm going to let you in on a secret. Whenever someone working in tech gives you a release estimate, add at least 50% to whatever they say. Software devs are notoriously bad at judging the time a project will take.
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Mar 19, 2016 20:51
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Pavlov posted:As a programmer, I'm going to let you in on a secret. Whenever someone working in tech gives you a release estimate, add at least 50% to whatever they say. Software devs are notoriously bad at judging the time a project will take. That is the secret to being a "good" dev. When someone asks for an estimate take your initial reaction and double it. There is a world of difference between the time it takes to get something working and the time it takes to get it working right.
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Mar 19, 2016 21:47
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Same rule goes for when I'm asked to commission some installation in a chemical production facility. Big difference in time to get something working, and to be at the point where there is no way the operators can gently caress it up any way.... those bastards always find a way to operate the installation in a way it was not supposed to be used.
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Mar 19, 2016 21:53
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Alpha players: how playable do you estimate the beta 1 version of this game will be? I'm sort of dying to play a decent pvp mmo, so that in mind should I pay up for beta 1 or wait for beta 2?
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Mar 20, 2016 00:48
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Space Monster posted:Alpha players: how playable do you estimate the beta 1 version of this game will be? I'm sort of dying to play a decent pvp mmo, so that in mind should I pay up for beta 1 or wait for beta 2? As something you can get invested in? Not very. As a nice PvP snack food? Probably decent enough.
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Mar 20, 2016 05:07
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Orv posted:As something you can get invested in? Not very. As a nice PvP snack food? Probably decent enough. Snack food will do. Thanks.
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Mar 20, 2016 06:07
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I'd still wait and see how it shakes out. The beta will basically be entirely different aside from tech, so there's no telling how complex it'll be.
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Mar 20, 2016 06:20
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Orv posted:I'd still wait and see how it shakes out. The beta will basically be entirely different aside from tech, so there's no telling how complex it'll be. Fair enough. Hadn't put money down, won't until I see goons in this thread having fun.
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Mar 20, 2016 06:40
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Out of all the MMO's in the works, this is probably the only one i am most hopefully will be good. Hope it is going well still!
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Mar 20, 2016 07:50
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I played a fuckload of DAOC back in the day, and went looking for DAOC videos to check out online. Found info about this. Kind of interested in the Fire Warden as I loved my Fire Wizard back in the day. Just wondering - Are they intending to split the servers into US/Europe/Oceania? Are they going to do the same thing they had with DAOC (ie similar powersets being shared across different classes in a mix)? Because that really pissed me off as an Alb player. Is this a PvP only game, or is there poo poo to do like back in DAOC where you could just run about having fun with mates in your own realm?
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Mar 20, 2016 12:03
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The Dark Project posted:I played a fuckload of DAOC back in the day, and went looking for DAOC videos to check out online. Found info about this. Kind of interested in the Fire Warden as I loved my Fire Wizard back in the day. This is what I'm wondering - is there any pve element whatsoever? I am looking forward to this, but I really liked the pve to break up the pvp in the original daoc, and I can't seem to find any concrete info on it. If you go and get repeatedly destroyed by the other realms for a few hours, it can be nice to go mindlessly hit some bears for a bit.
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Mar 20, 2016 14:21
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The only PvE stuff to my knowledge is The Depths, which we have basically no useful info on at this point. As of the Kickstarter the intent was to have a game entirely without PvE, but they've changed a bunch of things since then.
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Mar 20, 2016 19:02
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They've been releasing some screenshots and concept art on their FB page lately but no other concrete info that's new.
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Mar 20, 2016 20:56
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That bums me out. I have friends which aren't much into PvP, but loved the PvE aspect of DAOC. Unfortunately we were all hitting level 50 when Atlantis came out and hosed everything up with Master Levels, which made PvP a bit of a nightmare when you had Enchanters being able to burn down a group in seconds by spamming PBAoE's amongst a stunned group of people. Kind of killed the enjoyment. But the PvE aspect was great fun, especially in Shrouded Isles. I am hoping the Uthgard server comes back up, and that it has the Shrouded Isles content, but I am not holding my breath.
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extra stout posted:End of winter...so even if beta 2 began 3 months after beta 1 ends, beta 2 would still be two years behind? How is this even possible to do with rich guy funding and another 4 million or something from the public? The severe beta delay was due to unexpected difficulty in hiring programmers to fill out their team. Space Monster posted:Alpha players: how playable do you estimate the beta 1 version of this game will be? I'm sort of dying to play a decent pvp mmo, so that in mind should I pay up for beta 1 or wait for beta 2? The Beta will start with very bare-bones type stuff, but more will be added as the beta progresses. The beginning of Beta 1 will be when it crosses the threshold from focusing purely on engine/tech to starting to add real content to the game. Holo posted:This is what I'm wondering - is there any pve element whatsoever? I am looking forward to this, but I really liked the pve to break up the pvp in the original daoc, and I can't seem to find any concrete info on it. If you go and get repeatedly destroyed by the other realms for a few hours, it can be nice to go mindlessly hit some bears for a bit. Orv posted:The only PvE stuff to my knowledge is The Depths, which we have basically no useful info on at this point. As of the Kickstarter the intent was to have a game entirely without PvE, but they've changed a bunch of things since then. The Depths will still be PvP-oriented. Even the big bosses in the Depths will be player-controlled. (Assuming nothing has changed from what little we know about the Depths at this point.) One thing we do know is that there will be absolutely no progression from PvE in any area of the game, though there may be mobs that exist to fill out the environment.
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The Dark Project posted:That bums me out. I have friends which aren't much into PvP, but loved the PvE aspect of DAOC. Unfortunately we were all hitting level 50 when Atlantis came out and hosed everything up with Master Levels, which made PvP a bit of a nightmare when you had Enchanters being able to burn down a group in seconds by spamming PBAoE's amongst a stunned group of people. Kind of killed the enjoyment. But the PvE aspect was great fun, especially in Shrouded Isles. I am hoping the Uthgard server comes back up, and that it has the Shrouded Isles content, but I am not holding my breath. I'm sort of in the same boat - I'm a bit worried this is just going to feel like Planetside - Medieval Edition: go shoot mans for an hour or two then get bored and log out.
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Mar 21, 2016 10:46
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Holo posted:I'm sort of in the same boat - I'm a bit worried this is just going to feel like Planetside - Medieval Edition: go shoot mans for an hour or two then get bored and log out. I'm hoping the crafting/building system will be a good way to kill time outside PvP.
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I've never played DAoC so I have a really basic question: How does this game (or games like this) work at a big picture level? Is it like Planet Fall with mmorpg characters, where you're exclusively fighting other PCs for control of territory/castles/mines etc? If s, does the server reset territory control at some point? Or might you eventually roll a weaker side all the way back to some unconquerable "capitol" or something?
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Mar 21, 2016 20:01
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Jack B Nimble posted:I've never played DAoC so I have a really basic question: Unconquerable capital (+surrounding territory which I think is non pvp?). To keep it fresh i think zones can shift position and the buildable keeps are destructible. Anyone who isn't talking out of their rear end please correct me.
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Mar 21, 2016 20:25
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Jack B Nimble posted:I've never played DAoC so I have a really basic question: There will be balancing mechanisms in place to prevent one side from dominating. Details regarding what those systems will be exactly are still pending.
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Mar 21, 2016 20:34
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Jack B Nimble posted:I've never played DAoC so I have a really basic question: It seems CSE is designing the time-to-kill, travel times, defensive infrastructure, and capture mechanics as to prevent quick conquering of enemy realms.
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Tri-Realm in DAoC also balanced itself somewhat that if one realm was dominating, the two others would somewhat refrain to attacking eachother and rather focus on the dominating realm. I fully avoided the word "cooperate" because that never really happened. Of all the games I think Guildwars 2 has a really nice system in their WvWvW : 3 servers of similar strength get paired, and this rotates monthly or so. Unfortunately the musical keep warfare was not what I look for in a game like this.
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We had some cooperation on guinevere when albion was dominating. I remember the hib and mid armies found each other, formed lines, and didn't attack except for a random few. Like solo guys would go out and aoe them then get slaughtered and there was no more retaliation. The albs were not happy then. GW2 tried to do a nice WvW system but hosed it all up to where it is a god drat train around the zone capping small objectives where people try to avoid fighting. ESO got the map and objectives right for their RvR then hosed up the rest of the game.
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Third World Reggin posted:GW2 tried to do a nice WvW system but hosed it all up to where it is a god drat train around the zone capping small objectives where people try to avoid fighting. ESO got the map and objectives right for their RvR then hosed up the rest of the game. This 100X. The thing is the population of MMO players has gotten too big to make it one open world. So they either have to instance stuff (making it all feel very pointless as nothing has permanent consequences) or put population caps per side resulting in horrible queue's. If the PvP area for CU is really really huge, and realms have enough place to expand this might not be an issue. Very important to not allow ANY form of fast travel though as this would result in zergs and blobbing. I also mainly played on Hib Guinevere back on live 10 years ago. Or was it even longer? drat.
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Mar 25, 2016 16:49
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Evernoob posted:Tri-Realm in DAoC also balanced itself somewhat that if one realm was dominating, the two others would somewhat refrain to attacking eachother and rather focus on the dominating realm. The problem with the rotational system in GW2 is that guilds can purpose gently caress your server if they want to prevent them from tiering, or keep themselves in the highest tier. It's like match fixing and a guild with a few dozen coordinated people can, and have done it (Case in point: the sordid history of Yak's Bend) In a three way system like CU is proposing, I think the shakeup of resources like they proposed will keep things fluid, especially if guild hall/keep locations remain more static. Not sure what else can be done beyond this, except incentivizing losing factions with some kind of resource gain buff or something.
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The Dark Project posted:That bums me out. I have friends which aren't much into PvP, but loved the PvE aspect of DAOC. Unfortunately we were all hitting level 50 when Atlantis came out and hosed everything up with Master Levels, which made PvP a bit of a nightmare when you had Enchanters being able to burn down a group in seconds by spamming PBAoE's amongst a stunned group of people. Kind of killed the enjoyment. But the PvE aspect was great fun, especially in Shrouded Isles. I am hoping the Uthgard server comes back up, and that it has the Shrouded Isles content, but I am not holding my breath. Per one of the online scheduled twitch streaming sessions, Max answered this: Q: is CU a pure PvP game or any PvE elements? A: RvR, there is a small amount of PvE elements but no traditional quests or PvE progression. A follow-up comment was something about how just about everything will be revolving around PvP.
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Mar 29, 2016 19:57
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Calibrex posted:Per one of the online scheduled twitch streaming sessions, Max answered this: To be fair this has been openly their plan for the whole project as far as I'm aware. I agree (with the guy who mentioned friends not wanting to always PVP) though the best idea might have been to still have plenty of monsters/animals to kill purely for mats, and then bosses in caves and stuff to have mini-raids, again for rarer crafting mats. I think removing traditional grind quests, and grinding levels is fine and maybe even a great idea, but if the server or your computer is lagging from the battle getting too big...is there anything else really worth a monthly fee leftover? We'll find out!
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Mar 30, 2016 05:10
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Interview with game dev on massively op : http://massivelyop.com/podcast/ I liked his point that you can just increase the pop cap on a pure PvP server because you won't overload quest hubs or spawn camps. Dunno what that means for crafting though.
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Mar 30, 2016 21:42
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For the people who are not into 100% PVP (or RvR) : the crafting/building aspect of the game will be just as important as the combat. The reason battles will be fought is not for virtual "points" (well ranks will probably exist but that's not what I mean) but for the control of resource heavy locations where your crafters can go gather materials to build new foritifications and upgrades. I have a friend who is a hardcore Minecraft/Space Engineer addict who explicitly mentioned he was interested in the game for the crafting alone and expects to not ever even create a combat class.
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Mar 31, 2016 09:08
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Beta 1 starts early next week. Or maybe next week or the week after... http://camelotunchained.com/v3/afternoon-update-friday-april-15th-2016/ Looks to be a sloppy mess at the start, but I'm excited to try it out.
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Correction: Beta 1 starts in maybe two months which will make the final release come sooner. Or so they say.
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New C.U.B.E. is up for anyone that likes playing with legos. Also they've got the vox-whatever sitting outside the keep. It isn't usable yet and some bits of it look like they should be animated. I don't feel strongly one way or another about the presentation but it might look pretty alright if they make the floating bits bob a little or something. Going to build something around it to see if it looks better indoors.
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Apr 23, 2016 01:51
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counting days!!
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Apr 27, 2016 20:19
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it begins... https://www.reddit.com/r/CamelotUnchained/comments/4ewd3x/brian_greenpsychochild_senior_engineer_has_parted/
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im gay posted:it begins... Welp, that was an interesting blog read. Wonder what the other side of the story is.
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