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Negligent posted:It's not comparable to a situation where the government faces a hostile senate crossbench. The abcc isn't even about IR. Of course it's about IR, that's the dogwhistle. It's a government attempting a cowardly own on a union it thinks won't get sympathy and in the process legitimize police state tactics against the others. You need to read catallaxyfiles.com more and understand the mindset. And good news, the hostile Senate will get more hostile, not less.
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MaliciousOnion posted:Don't you know? Housing prices can only go up! I don't think anything will do much to alleviate the bubble bursting at this point. There's too much of peoples' wealth tied up in it, and far far too much debt being used to pay for it all. Houses are used to pay for the aged care for old people, I assume that a large part of the care provided to the boomers when they can't go to the toilet on their own any more is expected to be paid for from their properties. What happens to that assumption if the house price crashes back to it's pre NG/CGT level?
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The bubble bursts, housing prices drop to afforadble levels for under 40s, and the boomers get their just rewards for loving the rest of us over for 40 years.
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NTRabbit posted:The bubble bursts, housing prices drop to afforadble levels for under 40s, and the boomers get their just rewards for loving the rest of us over for 40 years. The bubble bursts, housing prices drop to afforadble levels for under 40s, and the boomers
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I think grandfathering it will curb the extent of how violently the bubble bursts. It will still burst but it won't gently caress up as many people who took daddies advice.
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Apr 28, 2016 10:08
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The bubble will burst and the guillotine will make its long awaited return.
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Zenithe posted:The bubble bursts, housing prices drop to afforadble levels for under 40s, and the boomers The bubble bursts, housing prices drop to affordable levels for under 40s, and
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Zenithe posted:The bubble bursts, housing prices drop to afforadble levels for under 40s, and the boomers The boomers already own all the loving properties ewe2 posted:The bubble bursts, housing prices drop to affordable levels for under 40s, and Jumpingmanjim posted:and the guillotine will make its long awaited return.
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Jumpingmanjim posted:The bubble will burst and the guillotine will make its long awaited return.
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Apr 28, 2016 10:22
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See, already the scare stories about a housing apocalypse are coming out. Don't risk voting for Labor!
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Apr 28, 2016 10:29
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Bill shorten will literally take your house and give it to a corrupt union official.
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Negligent posted:The abcc isn't even about IR. Ahahahahahahaha
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if Bill Shorten somehow wins the election Stephen Bradbury will give up his claim to fame and winning by default will forever be known as doing a shorten
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Anidav posted:Bill shorten will literally take your house and give it to a corrupt union official. I knew becoming a rep would work out for me one day
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Apr 28, 2016 11:06
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did you guys know Bill shorten's real name is William Richard Shorten willy dick shorten even his parents must have disliked him
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As long as Negligent is endlessly harping on about Bill Shorten, I've got a question that came to me while I was at the shops. Negligent, you said you'd move to Cambodia if Shorten got in. Why aren't you there now? What policies does the LNP have that you agree with that Shorten will wreck? Is this seriously about negative gearing?
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Starshark posted:As long as Negligent is endlessly harping on about Bill Shorten, I've got a question that came to me while I was at the shops. Not to burst your bubble, but you won't get a serious answer from such a blatant troll. He really has ramped up since everyone started mostly ignoring him.
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norp posted:Not to burst your bubble, but you won't get a serious answer from such a blatant troll. In that case he has to answer or he becomes... ... a failtroll
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it's rather warm in cambodia right now but July will be rainy season
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Do they have negative gearing in Cambodia?
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Cartoon posted:Nobody who isn't a completely died in the wool LNP supporter has forgotten the dire loving mess that is the NBN No-one not on Whirlpool cares enough about the NBN for it to change their vote. It's not a serious election issue. It's the constant flailing about on economic policy, and picking negative gearing of all things to take a stand on, that's killing Turnbull to the point that even the Murdoch press can't save him.
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Can we get a royal commission into why the iview player sucks so hard?
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Birdstrike posted:negligent has actually been alright this month Only because we've been arguing with PissCat instead and barely anyone's taken his bait.
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quote:How Buck's Transsexual Adventures shaped John Howard's porn policy http://www.crikey.com.au/2016/04/28/john-howards-history-chasing-waterfalls/ Can someone post this?
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Only because we've been arguing with PissCat instead and barely anyone's taken his bait. yeah he tends to get a bit of a bad rap though like people who say they aren't trolls like graic, amu, mills etc will never give you the reasons behind their positions on anything ever I feel like if you ask negligent about something like constitutional law he'd actually engage in a decent discussion with reasons for taking a position
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Negligent posted:if Bill Shorten somehow wins the election Stephen Bradbury will give up his claim to fame and winning by default will forever be known as doing a shorten 2013 called, they want their Abbott meme back. edit: bloody hell, didn't realise who I was responding to.
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DAAS Kapitalist posted:No-one not on Whirlpool cares enough about the NBN for it to change their vote. It's not a serious election issue. I don't think that's true at all, ladies at my work, even the ones 40+ are starting to realise the limits of bad internet and are getting really shirty at bad upload speeds. Edit: not to say that women wouldn't complain about technological stuff, it's just my department is like 85% women and these aren't technologically proficient people at all, but they're just who I hear talking about this. sick of Applebees fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Apr 28, 2016 |
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Put it this way: the NBN is way down the list of issues Labor will campaign on. It adds to the general impression of the incompetence of the Liberals, but it doesn't rate compared to their repeated attacks on health, education, the environment and the poor while supporting tax breaks for the wealthy. Gutting the NBN is about the only campaign promise the Liberals have delivered on.
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Jumpingmanjim posted:http://www.crikey.com.au/2016/04/28/john-howards-history-chasing-waterfalls/ How Buck's Transsexual Adventuresshaped John Howard's porn policy JOSH TAYLOR Crikey journalist This week the adult industry fingered former prime minister John Howard for personally being responsible for banning certain types of pornography he didn’t believe in.As Crikey reported earlier this week, Eros Association’s Joel Murray made the startling claim at Senator David Leyonhjelm’s inquiry into nanny state laws that the former prime minister personally took offence at a certain type of pornography and sought to have it banned: “Some fetishes used to be allowed within the X classification. It is my understanding that under John Howard as prime minister the X classification was restricted, in particular, because the prime minister was deeply offended by the idea of watersports and female ejaculation. In fact, he claimed that female ejaculation was not a true thing; whereas, in fact, science says quite the opposite.” Crikey has been unable to verify that Howard personally took exception to female ejaculation. But it is true that under the Howard government bans on certain types of fetishes were inserted into the guidelines. The Libertus website has a good rundown of the chronology of how it all happened. Initially, the Howard-led Coalition went to the 1996 election promising to ban the X-rated classification entirely, but to do that it needed the support of the ACT and Northern Territory governments, where it was legal to sell X-rated videos. They were having none of it, so the classification code could not be changed. Howard then tried to remove the X classification and replace it with a more restrictive non-violent erotica (NVE) classification that would ban “mild fetishism” and bondage scenes. But when it looked like the states would also adopt the NVE category, right-wing independent Tasmanian senator Brian Harradine was determined to put a stop to it. He, along with National Party MP De-Anne Kelly, brought a number of videos — including Max Going South, Buck’s Transsexual Adventures and My Life as a She-Male in the FBI — to Howard’s office, claiming this would be the kind of content that would be allowed under NVE. Seeing the titles in all their glory was enough to force Howard’s hand, despite it later being revealed that a number of the titles Harradine had brought to Howard were banned under existing classifications, and would not have been allowed under NVE.NVE was abandoned in 2000 in favour of changing the X rating to exclude violence, sexual assault language and fetishes. The classification board’s guidelines for films and computer games state:“Fetishes such as body piercing, application of substances such as candle wax, ‘golden showers’, bondage, spanking or fisting are not permitted.”This was implemented in September 2000 and set a new standard for the type of X-rated films that could be sold in Australia. According to Hansard, when legislation putting in place these new restrictions was debated, the prime minister did not comment on it, so we can find no record of him specifically referencing female ejaculation. Hansard does include some juicy tidbits from other politicians, however. This, for example, from Liberal MP Teresa Gambaro — who is retiring at this election, with two gay men competing for her seat: “I had received numerous letters from constituents in my electorate about a program that was screened on the ABC in which a number of transsexuals came on stage wearing G-strings which had chocolate penises attached to the end of them. Another group of transvestites came on state and started to eat the chocolate penises. I cannot tell you the revulsion that I felt after reading these letters.” The first time the matter gained attention in the media was in 2010, under the Rudd government. The Australian Sex Party, which has ties to the Eros Association, put out a press release claiming the classifications board had begun banning films featuring women with small breasts, as well as films featuring female ejaculation. As Crikey noted at the time, there was nothing in the classification guidelines specifically about female ejaculation, but it is understood the classification board interpreted the ban on “golden showers” to include any ejaculation from a woman, despite Eros presenting evidence to the board of the difference between urine and female ejaculate. The Australian Law Reform Commission looked into classification a few years ago and in 2012 recommended a review of the prohibition on the depiction of sexual fetishes in films, stating the ban might be out of step with the community on fetishes. As with many ALRC reports, neither the Gillard-Rudd government or the Abbott-Turnbull government responded.In last week’s committee hearing, Murray said the ALRC’s recommendations should be adopted, to allow legal acts — such as fetishes — to also be sold as video content: “Some legal sexual practices are more practiced by members of the LGBT community — that is, there is a great percentage of that community practicing those sexual practices. There is quite a lot of content that is restricted simply by the mere fact that other people are offended by it.” As Crikey noted earlier in the week, the way Australian classification law is structured means people can pay overseas providers for the content that would be refused classification in Australia, and owning it is not illegal — except if the content itself is illegal, such as child abuse. It is only illegal to sell such material — except in Western Australia, where it is illegal to own.
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DAAS Kapitalist posted:Put it this way: the NBN is way down the list of issues Labor will campaign on. It adds to the general impression of the incompetence of the Liberals, but it doesn't rate compared to their repeated attacks on health, education, the environment and the poor while supporting tax breaks for the wealthy. I'd agree with this if it weren't for the fact that it's specifically a very strong angle of attack on Turnbull. Until Abbott got rolled, the NBN was basically Turnbull's one job; the only part of his portfolio that was of tremendous interest and value to the Australian populace. His 'cheaper and quicker' version not only had massive and totally foreseeable cost blowouts, it never actually arrived for a vast majority of the country. And it's all on his hands. If Turnbull held literally any other portfolio in the Abbott government, I would agree that it's a worthless thing to attack him on. But before becoming PM, Minister for Communications under the Abbott Government was the biggest governmental position he's ever had, and it's hard to imagine him loving it up any worse, intentionally or no. That, I think, makes it a valid point of attack; 'it is specifically this man's fault that the NBN never happened and our entire country's internet infrastructure is literally rotting in the ground, and that is the only thing he has ever done for Australia as a politician'.
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Birdstrike posted:negligent has actually been alright this month ur fucken drunk
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Abbott specifically gave Turnbull communications as a poisoned chalice and if Steve Jobs returned from the dead he couldn't have turned around the NBN also, the greatest thing Turnbull has done for Australia is removed Abbott
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Negligent posted:Abbott specifically gave Turnbull communications as a poisoned chalice and if Steve Jobs returned from the dead he couldn't have turned around the NBN And Ozemail
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Hey Australia, our cities are agile Malcolm Turnbull to borrow big in multibillion-dollar cities plan Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull will scrap what he calls blank cheques for state and local government infrastructure projects and announce a ramp-up of debt to fund major schemes. The move – on the condition state and local authorities can rigorously demonstrate their economic benefits – is part of a major infrastructure push to be announced in Melbourne on Friday and to be detailed in the federal budget. To be called Smart Cities, the project will begin with a $50 million allocation for planning and the brokering of deals between the Commonwealth and private funders that want to leverage its balance sheet. The Prime Minister plans to issue long-dated bonds – perhaps up to 30 years – to lock in historically low interest rates to part-fund projects such as Sydney's Badgerys Creek airport, Melbourne's Metro Rail and Brisbane's Cross River Rail. The funding would be delivered on the condition recipients show it would return to the Commonwealth through demonstrated faster economic growth and higher tax revenue, as well as "value capture" charges on businesses that benefit from the developments. On Tuesday the Victorian government walked away from negotiations with the Commonwealth over the $11 billion Melbourne Metro project, saying it was imposing too many conditions. The policy document champions the concept of a "30-minute city" – one in which, "no matter where you live, you can easily access the places you need to visit on a daily basis". Mr Turnbull believes such cities will allow people to live further from the centre, making housing more affordable. The document states that pressure is growing on "housing affordability, access to local jobs and our natural environment, as well as increasing congestion and traffic". "To secure our future prosperity and global competitiveness, all levels of government need to work in partnership to support our cities big and small." The government will "prioritise projects that meet broader economic and city objectives, such as accessibility, jobs, affordable housing and healthy environments". Cities Minister Angus Taylor said the Commonwealth was interested in outcomes, "not just handing over a blank cheque". "If we are to have the impact we want in cities policy – facilitating quality jobs, more housing and better connectivity – as well as a return to taxpayers, we need investments, not grants," he said ahead of the launch. The Commonwealth, he said, would use its "massive balance sheet" to back projects that could deliver a return on investment and improve access to affordable housing. "We don't need a bank – we don't even need a fund – you just need projects that can deliver a modest return and a broad economic benefit to an area," he said. "The Commonwealth can invest , and we are doing it now with the Clean Energy Finance Corporation and the National Broadband Network. And we are planning to do it in the very near future with the Northern Australian infrastructure fund. "What we do in all those cases is use the Commonwealth government balance sheet to finance infrastructure projects that are going to deliver a broad impact." The program will spark fears about the resulting size of the Commonwealth debt, concerns Mr Turnbull believes can be mitigated by the rigorous requirements for demonstrating economic payoffs. As the projects that are developed are sold, the Prime Minister believes net debt will come down. Reserve Bank governor Glenn Stevens expressed support in principle for the idea at a banking conference in New York last week, saying governments should be able to find projects that at current bond rates provided returns "comfortably above their cost of funding". The Commonwealth is likely to be able to borrow for 30 years at a rate of less than 4 per cent. To date, its longest-issued bond is 22 years. Mr Taylor said the financing unit would look to attract recruits from the private sector, which had experience in putting together infrastructure deals.
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I think it's a panic announcement to trick people who aren't paying attention into thinking he had anything at all to with Melbourne Metro (I mean, other than trying to tank it). Same Mal who goes to the Mardi Gras to get selfies without actually doing anything for gay marriage except pushing his agency to create change further and further away.
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