Tempest_56 posted:That Deagle nerf seems pretty severe. Not totally unexpected, but a fairly big drop. Nah. 145 to 120 damage doesn't mean much. It makes a minor difference on DW: you can no longer body-shot SWATs, and specials might take an extra shot. Take Custom Ammo and that issue disappears.
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Tulip posted:PSA about JoaT via reddit: you can use "x" to switch between the deployables. No this isn't documented, it's not even under keybinds. Yes "JoaT" is infuriatingly close to "Jort" as an acronym. It's mentioned in the skill description in their Google doc but lmao that they couldn't put it in the in-game description. Guess that means you can't bind it to something else currently? Excellent. Can't wait to see how harsh the pistol RoF nerf is. As if I needed more reasons to use akimbo SMGs full-time. Oh, and are there any more skill build slots in the beta? I asked on the steam forums and someone said an Overkill dev confirmed we were getting more but he never sourced the quote and 99% of the people who post there are idiots so I'm assuming it's still 5. Hrm. Better question: is the more skill build slots mod broken in the beta?
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ClonedPickle posted:Oh, and are there any more skill build slots in the beta? I asked on the steam forums and someone said an Overkill dev confirmed we were getting more but he never sourced the quote and 99% of the people who post there are idiots so I'm assuming it's still 5. Hrm. Better question: is the more skill build slots mod broken in the beta? No more slots in the beta, but the mod isn't broken. Download link here. I edited this version to have all the unlock slots be free, since the beta reset all of them.
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Fun beta bug. If someone without drill skills/lower drills skills repairs your upgraded drill, they downgrade it. It is not just visual, this adds more time to the drill. :overkill:
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At least this is ostensibly why they're testing this poo poo in a beta first. 
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ClonedPickle posted:It's mentioned in the skill description in their Google doc but lmao that they couldn't put it in the in-game description. Guess that means you can't bind it to something else currently? Excellent. seriously. Oh no I guess I have to use these awesome as hell compact 5s... in ICTV. I mean, a controllable stryk outside of swan song is nice and all, but couldn't they let us customize our ROF with a drop-in part similar to how you can drop in an autofire/semi-only part? yes I want the Ghost Recon Future Soldier weapon customizer in this game, why SAMARIX posted:If someone without drill skills/lower drills skills repairs your upgraded drill, they downgrade it. time to troll everyone with drill skills
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SAMARIX posted:Fun beta bug. Holy MOLY Can anyone confirm if percussive maintenance upgrades drills?
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Fun beta bug. If you have a secondary deployable selected, all your builds get to bring it.
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Do I have to take out mods to see the beta stuff because I CTD at the main title.
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I crash to desktop when I try to change my perk deck. I'm guessing that's a goonmod or pocohud conflict.
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Jesus christ this beta broke a lot. Dodge seems to be seriously nerfed, can't spend all my skill points it seems, akimbo seems to be nerfed even harder....kinda rough so far, may be going back to an Enforcer build at this rate.
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Interesting mechanic/bug: You cannot ace both skills in a tier even if you got enough points to do so. I tried acing both Running From Death and Up You Go and it wouldn't let me. I had just enough points, too. Fake Edit: Actually, it looks like you can only spend 119? I dunno. This is a beta so sure.
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Yeah you can only spend 119 skill points for whatever rear end backwards reason. The only thing that's REALLY getting me is that I can't use mousewheel to scroll between skill loadouts, I have to go into the skill screen and hit 's.' That and I can't rename skill sets. Oh also them using the same placeholder icon for like all skills. And for some reason "Oppressor" in Armorer 1)uses the Oppressor icon stead of the Stun Resistance shades and 2)is called Oppressor same as the goddamn tree for gently caress's sake why it doesn't even have anything to do with suppression anymore. e: I hope they don't change the tool tip for basic martial arts. Tulip fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Apr 29, 2016 |
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I haven't played with it yet. The 120 points... is that tied to your Infamy level?
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So, I played for a bit today in the beta, and I did note that the ammo pickup nerf was quite disappointing even with the supposed boost to the rate offered by that one perk in Ammo Specialist. Then I decided to roll out a build with most of the Controller skills, and this happened:    I have now decided that I adore this beta, since the effectiveness of shooting has been diminished when you can just yell at cops all day. Payday 2: "F" the Police
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Heads up: the bullet knockdown skill thing works on specials I juggled quite a few dozers with a mac-10 today  cloakers ain't resistant to it either oh and my game crashes when going into the perk deck screen, but I can still just use the mouse wheel to choose different ones w/o going into the screen. Not too mad since, well, it is a beta after all
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Question on Sentries: Do they still have limited ammo? If so, does the AP Mode sort of slow the ammo consumption down?
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Running a Frenzy/SIlencer build with a silenced G3 DMR got me to two-shot a dozer.
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Whoever it was that said automatic weapons are the big winners is right, I think. The Oppressor Technician tree is absolutely nuts, and it's not hard to stack extra buffs, like silencer skills, in there. Shotguns feel worse, but that's probably a relative measure. They didn't become particularly better in the way that other setups did. Regen-based dodge builds are the big losers. I didn't think the Grinder change would make much of a difference, but between it and the 5% loss, dodge builds are in rough shape.
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90 base ammo is still garbage and bad, though, see if you can get Overkill to make the AMR base 120
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I lied about dodge builds being bad. The gimmick one(s) are still good. Hostage-taker Crook worked out really well.
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LuciferMorningstar posted:I lied about dodge builds being bad. The gimmick one(s) are still good. Hostage-taker Crook worked out really well. I'm so far enjoying 94 armor LBV Ex-President. Still kinda not sure which weapons are great, although that's mostly because of the gigantic ammo pickup cut. Beta's still just kind of a mess, though. Hard to give proper feedback when there's so many busted things. And yet those motherfuckers can still find the time to fix a perfectly harmless visual bag bug on Hotline Miami day 1, grrrrrrr
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Sentry builds are the hip new way to solo anything you want and to destroy your hearing.
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Speaking of, there needs to be some visual feedback of exactly which firing mode you're in at a given time.
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Fun bug from last night. I think it's the SMG/LMG/AR Tech +15 ammo cap skill that makes the light crossbow have 16 bolts in a mag. Reload on top of bolts. Sadly it's not rapid fire, but it sure is useful when you're tazed. Also on the melee front, Frenzy's a bit of a super risk. I think Sociopath works best with it atm, as grinder is a tiny tiny regen. Will check muscle synergy. Frenzy deffo needs a healing perk.
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Frenzy is hilarious fun with Yakuza for all of five seconds before you get downed... but good god I was one hitting tans at one point. So far, I really love the 50% reload following a melee kill, but am definitely missing sprinting reload.
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Tulip posted:Speaking of, there needs to be some visual feedback of exactly which firing mode you're in at a given time.  The lil bars here show what firing mode you're in
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I think I've found a stabby build. Medic: Combat Medic, Quick Fix, Uppers (all Basic) Controller: (Aced) Endurance Shotgunner: Underdog Armorer: A-Opressor, A-Die Hard, A-Transporter, Bulletproof, Iron Man Ammo Spec: Scavenger Opressor: Steady Grip, Fire Control, A-Shock and Awe, Fast Fire Commando: A-Duck and Cover, A-Evasion, A-Thick Skin, Shockproof Silent Killer: Camoflauge, The Professional, A-Low Blow Gunslinger: Equalibrium Relentless: A-Nine Lives Brawler: A-Martial Arts, A-Blood Thirst, Pumping Iron, A-Bezerker, A-Frenzy Equip: FAKs, Flamethrower w/Concealment Mod and Ammo, Bronco w/Concealment Mod and Pocket Surprise Slide, Regular BV, Trench Knife. Bootcha fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Apr 29, 2016 |
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BillmasterCozb posted:
I think he means for the sentries.
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ModeWondershot posted:So, I played for a bit today in the beta, and I did note that the ammo pickup nerf was quite disappointing even with the supposed boost to the rate offered by that one perk in Ammo Specialist. Yeah making all the cops surrender is so great.
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Psion posted:90 base ammo is still garbage and bad, though, see if you can get Overkill to make the AMR base 120 Yeah the falcon, m16 and especially eagle are such fun guns to use but outside of diamond museum I almost never use them because the ammo and ammo return is so low.
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1 to 2 shots to kill most common deathwish cops. 2 to 4 ammo return per box. Or god forbid you use an ammo bag.
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