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FrostyPox posted:What's the unreleased model? Kruellagh the Vile (still my favorite 40K special character name It's one of a few test figures that got sculpted as proof of concepts for the DE range. There are a bunch of them on the collectors market because GW used to sell them at various places, occasionally give them away and sometimes have them available through promotions (see also: the admech figs).
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Moola posted:I really love this guy He's coming over for a friendly hug       Why isn't there a company making BT minis that look good?
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Atlas Hugged posted:Isn't it a bit more complex than that? I was under the impression that Harmony Gold, who owned Macross, and FASA both licensed the designs from the same company. Or at least FASA thought they had. Harmony Gold have may been the exclusive holder and FASA had no idea it was infringing. This was fine for years until Harmony Gold caught wind of it, possibly because of FASA's own aggressive protection of the designs, and decided to put the legal boot to FASA. This lead to a years long legal dispute between FASA and Harmony Gold which FASA simply didn't have the money or expertise to deal with. In the end, it was easier to remove the designs from future publications. Atlas Hugged posted:Yeah from a bit of googling it seems a lot of it is hearsay and rumors stitched together from contradicting insider statements and legal documents. 
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Improbable Lobster posted:Why isn't there a company making BT minis that look good? Dreampod9 has Heavy Gear still and those look relatively nice and could sub in I suppose, but BattleTech minis based off the original illustrations will always be bad because the illustrations were bad.
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signalnoise posted:Dreampod9 has Heavy Gear still and those look relatively nice and could sub in I suppose, but BattleTech minis based off the original illustrations will always be bad because the illustrations were bad.           Thanks http://www.somethingawful.com/dungeons-and-dragons/battletech-technical-3025/1/
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They look like someone practicing technical drawing wanted to try something harder than cube, cylinder, cone, sphere, and just jammed a shitload of them together to make mechs.
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Those Battletech illustrations always put me in the mind of early, early polygon-based 3D video games. I'm talking Alone in the Dark, Starfox 1, Virtua Fighter sorta things.
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Zereth posted:I thought the story was that they licensed it from Harmony Gold, but there was a small wrinkle in that Harmony Gold did not have permission to license out their licensed properties to other people like that? FASA absolutely never licensed from Harmony Gold. At best, Harmony Gold and FASA both licensed from a 3rd party rights holder. At worst, FASA licensed from someone who probably didn't have the rights in the first place.
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diarmuidqq posted:They look like someone practicing technical drawing wanted to try something harder than cube, cylinder, cone, sphere, and just jammed a shitload of them together to make mechs. Given that the wargaming industry has always been niche, and that this stuff is something like 30 years old, this is probably what happened. Rules writers needed art, found a student who could produce something saleable at a budget they could scrape together and then proceeded to churn out designs by the dozen. I always felt that battletech had a chunky charm and the technical drawing style was a great fit for it. Had they gone for a fine art approach most of this stuff would have fallen flat. Now it looks dated as hell but it worked for them at the time.
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The urbanmech is still a classic though. Cant go wrong with a walking trashcan.
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It was good enough for Star Wars.
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All astromechs would be improved by the addition of an oversized autocannon tbh. There is a fair bit of cool retro in the BT designs, but far more WTF. MWO may have its failings, but their art team have done a good job of updating stuff.
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Improbable Lobster posted:
I used to get knockoffs of those little peach MUSCLE figures from the quarter machines at the grocery store, And I swear, over half of them were based off those mechs.
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Der Waffle Mous posted:I'll never understand the bizarre reverence BT fans have for duane loose's mech designs. There's a wonky charm to them. Those blocky old lineart drawings capture a nostalgic time and a place for me, same as the old lineart you'd see in D&D and Warhammer rulebooks.
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SRM posted:There's a wonky charm to them. Those blocky old lineart drawings capture a nostalgic time and a place for me, same as the old lineart you'd see in D&D and Warhammer rulebooks. WaywardWoodwose posted:I used to get knockoffs of those little peach MUSCLE figures from the quarter machines at the grocery store, And I swear, over half of them were based off those mechs. I think the mall near me used to have those
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Atlas Hugged posted:FASA absolutely never licensed from Harmony Gold. At best, Harmony Gold and FASA both licensed from a 3rd party rights holder. At worst, FASA licensed from someone who probably didn't have the rights in the first place. They licensed from two different companies was the problem. Studio Nue is a design house that contains the people who designed the robots reused in battletech, and is who FASA got the license from. They also did designs for the Japanese published edition. Harmony gold did business with the studios that produced the actual animations and had franchise rights. They're both valid licenses because nue had rights to the visual designs, but courts decided in Harmony Golds favor. Sharkopath fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Apr 29, 2016 |
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I like those unbelievably clunky and goofy Mechs. They scream 80s to me for whatever reason and they're great.
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I only got into mechs with Mechwarrior IV Mercenaries (I had played Mechcommander earlier, but I was far too young) so I hold no particular nostalgic value for older designs. Jaguar and Uziel FTW, go jump jets or go home.
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Man that OSTSCOUT was one groovy fuckin Mech.
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Bought some cheap painting supplies and plan to attempt painting this weekend assuming I can find my starship trooper figs. I have a couple dozen warrior bugs I can practice on. I have no doubt it's going to look bad.
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AndyElusive posted:Man that OSTSCOUT was one groovy fuckin Mech. Keep on 'meching
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Improbable Lobster posted:
 EDIT: Sonovabeaten.
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SRM posted:There's a wonky charm to them. Those blocky old lineart drawings capture a nostalgic time and a place for me, same as the old lineart you'd see in D&D and Warhammer rulebooks. Except that the old John Blanche artworks are actually you know... really good?
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SRM posted:There's a wonky charm to them. Those blocky old lineart drawings capture a nostalgic time and a place for me, same as the old lineart you'd see in D&D and Warhammer rulebooks. Oh, for sure, but there's this weird fundamentalism when it comes to comparing him and any of the other artists. Which is, like, okay sure, a lot of the art up until the mid aughts was really bad. But a lot of that was his, too. Then again I'm one of those people who just does not care for Errol Otus.
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Sharkopath posted:They licensed from two different companies was the problem. Studio Nue is a design house that contains the people who designed the robots reused in battletech, and is who FASA got the license from. They also did designs for the Japanese published edition. This is definitely a version of the truth but I don't know that it will ever be confirmed as exactly what happened.
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I got the three in one Battletech PC game collection in like 1996 that had the two Crescent Hawk games and Mechwarrior 1, but included in the box was this thick as hell manual with dozens of mechs in it. It held a real special place in my heart for a long time, especially because it got me through living in Malaysia for a year as a kid without any real friends, but then I lent it to a friend and moved away. He kept promising to mail it to me, but he never did. In any case, I don't know that I can look at the old designs objectively. They're too much a part of my childhood running around our compound with my dogs pretending to hunt the monkeys as a Jenner.
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Holy poo poo... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Warhammer-40k-painted-Eldar-Guardian-Jetbike-/371580814152?hash=item5683f14348:g:izsAAOSwxp9W8CiZ Same guy, thankfully not KKK, but what did he paint it with, sand?  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Warhammer-4...%3D371580814152
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jadebullet posted:Same guy, thankfully not KKK, but what did he paint it with, sand? Have you not heard of textured paint you loving heathen?
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It's meant to be a creature of molten metal, so it shouldn't surprise you to see that the paint appears to be blistering and melting off it.
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Z the IVth posted:Except that the old John Blanche artworks are actually you know... really good? 
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I agree, there is definitely some real character to those old pictures. Colonial Air Force posted:That's a pretty bold drawing considering what was going on at the time. I couldn't imagine a modern GW printing something like that back then, haha.
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"Hey games workshop, are you going to make any new models?"GW posted:MARINES LOL
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