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Toxxupation posted:When did loving Mystique become the lynchpin of the X-Men Cinematic Universe? I mean, I get it, they only got the X-Men so on some level they're playing with less than a full hand of decent superheroes, but on the other she's loving Mystique. She can look like other people and that's it. Great for comics storytelling in that she's got a lot of power to dictate storylines, but she's bad in movies because they're punchfests and all she can do is look like somebody else. She is acted by Jennifer Lawrence That's literally it I thought we all knew this
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When her actress got popular.
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Apr 29, 2016 05:39
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AnonSpore posted:She is acted by Jennifer Lawrence I'm just surprised they haven't done a Jubilee/Dazzler-like expansion of her powers to keep her in line with her increased focus. ed: And even in X-Men 1/2/3 Mystique was a big focus, so I don't think that's true. She was basically Magneto's top lieutenant even in the original trilogy. It's just weird that Fox has always made Mystique this big deal but never really gave her any other powers to compensate for how little fighting power she actually has. NieR Occomata fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Apr 29, 2016 |
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Apr 29, 2016 05:43
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They just did the same thing the original trilogy did, made her weirdly athletic and good at punching. They don't really need anything else.
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Apr 29, 2016 05:45
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Toxxupation posted:I'm just surprised they haven't done a Jubilee/Dazzler-like expansion of her powers to keep her in line with her increased focus. Her power seems to come tied with superhuman dexterity so she can do flips and leg holds and poo poo. They'll probably go the comics route and let her grow adamantium claws, wings, etc instead of just changing what she physically looks like.
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Apr 29, 2016 05:54
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Mystique is also a fairly popular comics character decades after her introduction. It's not like we're talking about making Amp the focus of the movies because she happens to be played by a good and popular actor.
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Toxxupation posted:When did loving Mystique become the lynchpin of the X-Men Cinematic Universe? I mean, I get it, they only got the X-Men so on some level they're playing with less than a full hand of decent superheroes, but on the other she's loving Mystique. She can look like other people and that's it. Great for comics storytelling in that she's got a lot of power to dictate storylines, but she's bad in movies because they're punchfests and all she can do is look like somebody else. She's a naked blue lady
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Apr 29, 2016 05:58
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She no longer appears to be naked. So there's some progress, at least.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:So, uh, on the other end of the table, I'm not sure if this has been brought up but holy mother of gently caress the Killing Joke movie looks awful I don't think it looks that bad, but something I saw somewhere was that it was supposed to have a lot of the feel of 90s-era animation. In some ways it makes me think of very high grade Liquid Television shorts from the 90s. It's sort of a strange compliment to make, but intentionally trying to evoke an animation feel and style of the era when Killing Joke was made and was gaining popular seems actually sort of interesting to me.
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Apr 29, 2016 06:56
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If they were really serious about that they wouldn't have digital art and CGI vehicles.
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Apr 29, 2016 07:00
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McSpanky posted:If they were really serious about that they wouldn't have digital art and CGI vehicles. Even on that front, I seemed to recall the 90s did feature a lot of early attempts at incorporating CG assisted stuff into traditional animation. It's been a long time since I've seen it, but didn't that DTV Batman/Mr. Freeze cartoon have it?
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I remember showing my dad the first Singer X-Men years back, and upon seeing Mystique he just remarked "Wow. In my day we were lucky to have Linda Carter!" e: Also, "what's the big deal about this guy with the knives in his hands. The one with the laser eyes would be way more helpful in a fight." Omnomnomnivore fucked around with this message at 08:40 on Apr 29, 2016 |
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Apr 29, 2016 07:55
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Wanna' meet that dad.
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Apr 29, 2016 08:43
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Saw Civil War. It was very good. Probably in my Marvel Top 3 (along with Winter Soldier and Guardians of the Galaxy). My girlfriend who has seen nothing but the first half of the First Avenger movie loved it as well.
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I guess I have to take it back. Captain America is a pretty American movie about fighting UN mandates and dodging responsibility. e: I'll just quote a fellow Nordic: Cakebaker posted:Yeah it took all of one day after the premiere here in Sweden before friends started linking right wing articles on facebook about how the left wants to hold Cap back (literally. There's an article presenting the Marvel universe as real and saying that the Social Democrats, which is part of the left coalition, would totally be on Starks side because they are lame and hate exceptional people). BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 10:57 on Apr 29, 2016 |
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Apr 29, 2016 10:52
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Spider-Man was fantastic. "Hey guys, you remember that really old movie The Empire Strikes Back?" Veotax fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Apr 29, 2016 |
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Apr 29, 2016 13:07
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if i was a superhero i doubt id give a gently caress about the UN either
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Apr 29, 2016 14:34
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Quicksilver is so fast he stole Avalanche's costume without him knowing.
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Apr 29, 2016 14:42
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CharlestheHammer posted:They just did the same thing the original trilogy did, made her weirdly athletic and good at punching. They don't really need anything else. Yeah, as early as the first movie she was able to fight Wolverine and not immediately die. I'm a bit confused about her prominence in the new movies as well though, should have been Sabretooth. Movie's the same overall, but instead of a naked blue child Xavier finds Sabretooth in his kitchen.
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Apr 29, 2016 15:11
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Veotax posted:Spider-Man was fantastic. Man I wish quoting something wouldn't reveal the spoiler to you hah. So I'm trying to stay as spoiler free as possible, how much is Spider-Man in it? I remember when they first got the green light they basically intimated that it was too late to put him into much of the story. How integral is he to the actual civil war outside of another combatant?
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They've said since that they actually wrote it with Iron Man and Spidey, and if either had said no they were pretty hosed.
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Toxxupation posted:When did loving Mystique become the lynchpin of the X-Men Cinematic Universe? I mean, I get it, they only got the X-Men so on some level they're playing with less than a full hand of decent superheroes, but on the other she's loving Mystique. She can look like other people and that's it. Great for comics storytelling in that she's got a lot of power to dictate storylines, but she's bad in movies because they're punchfests and all she can do is look like somebody else. Mystique is willing to use a gun and therefore is more powerful than 75% of the other X-Men and mutants in general.
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If they were casting First Class today they'd probably be trying to get her for Emma Frost or something instead of Mystique though.
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Aphrodite posted:If they were casting First Class today they'd probably be trying to get her for Emma Frost or something instead of Mystique though. gently caress, that would've been so much better.
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Apr 29, 2016 17:48
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I am the one, I liked January Jones as Emma Frost.
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Comfortador posted:Man I wish quoting something wouldn't reveal the spoiler to you hah. So I'm trying to stay as spoiler free as possible, how much is Spider-Man in it? I remember when they first got the green light they basically intimated that it was too late to put him into much of the story. How integral is he to the actual civil war outside of another combatant? Minor spoilers regrading Spider-Man's in Civil War: Both Spidey and Ant-Man are mostly there for the airport fight, but since he hasn't had a movie to introduce him Pete gets a recruitment scene that tells you what his deal is (in pretty vague terms, he doesn't recite his origin or anything).
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Grendels Dad posted:I am the one, I liked January Jones as Emma Frost. This is where you guys come forward and go "naw man, she was alright!"
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You're on your own on this one.
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Aphrodite posted:You're on your own on this one. Yup. She was awful. Emma Frost should not be dull. I'd say she only displayed one emotion in that movie but that'd be giving Jones too much credit. J-Law would've been way better. gently caress, stick McAvoy in the corset and he'd have been more convincing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5kYDdFQ8z4 Are these dirtbags somebodies wherever this ad comes from? 
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Grendels Dad posted:This is where you guys come forward and go "naw man, she was alright!" I don't think so Tim.
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Veotax posted:Minor spoilers regrading Spider-Man's in Civil War: Both Spidey and Ant-Man are mostly there for the airport fight, but since he hasn't had a movie to introduce him Pete gets a recruitment scene that tells you what his deal is (in pretty vague terms, he doesn't recite his origin or anything). So your answer to my question where I ask for spoiler free info is nothing but a spoiler and it doesn't really answer my question either?  Help a brotha out!
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Comfortador posted:So your answer to my question where I ask for spoiler free info is nothing but a spoiler and it doesn't really answer my question either? 2 scenes, probably about 5-10 minutes. (haven't seen it just guessing from spoilers)
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Apr 29, 2016 21:27
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More than 10.
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MacheteZombie posted:2 scenes, probably about 5-10 minutes. (haven't seen it just guessing from spoilers) 1 talky scene, and then the action set-piece from the trailers. The action scene is pretty long though, so prolly more like 20 mins total. (Spidey's obviously not in every single second of the fight, but he is a featured part.)
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Spidey is in the film for around 20 minutes total, that's as both in and out of costume. He apparently is not very important to the overarching plot.
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Apr 29, 2016 21:34
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Here's a new (to Americans  ) BP clip.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPDqb45P2Mg
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Apr 29, 2016 22:20
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T'Challa's gonna be fighting Bucky for like 70% of the movie 
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Apr 29, 2016 22:39
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Am I bad person for wanting to see this movie more for Black Panther and Spidey than for titular hero Captain America? I love Chris Evans' Cap, but drat, this is so exciting.
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Not a bad person but probably one that's going to be let down. They're minor characters.
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