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Nessus posted:I remember reading during my earlier flirtation with the craft that apparently you get the rank of the highest Scottish Rite thing you participated in? So you could have done the 7th, 8th, and 32nd one and you'd be a 32nd degree Mason, while if I did 4-28 I'd be 28th degree. Is that right or was it my memory betraying me That's correct. There are a few you have to do in order, otherwise it doesn't matter. I've not seen all 32, but I am a 32nd.
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# ? Apr 18, 2016 01:19 |
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Nessus posted:I remember reading during my earlier flirtation with the craft that apparently you get the rank of the highest Scottish Rite thing you participated in? So you could have done the 7th, 8th, and 32nd one and you'd be a 32nd degree Mason, while if I did 4-28 I'd be 28th degree. Is that right or was it my memory betraying me That's correct. There are only... 4, I think?... Scottish Rite degrees that HAVE to be conferred in a long form in the lodge, the rest can just be explained using a powerpoint or whatever. I wanna say 4 / 16 / 30 / 32 are the required ones.
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# ? Apr 18, 2016 13:44 |
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I should know this, but I think it's actually 4, 14, 18, and 32 are the required degrees. Each represents one of the 4 bodies of the AASR.
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# ? Apr 18, 2016 23:22 |
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Cholmondeley posted:I should know this, but I think it's actually 4, 14, 18, and 32 are the required degrees. Each represents one of the 4 bodies of the AASR. My bad, you're absolutely right.
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# ? Apr 19, 2016 01:21 |
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You're both kicked out now for less than perfect appendant body knowledge recall. The Grand Lodge of Emron has spoken.
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# ? Apr 19, 2016 04:34 |
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Does anyone even do all of them in longform? My understanding is several of them don't even have long-form ritual written.
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# ? Apr 19, 2016 09:16 |
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Of the ones I've seen (which I'll admit are few), I have only ever seen acted out. I've never watched a video or Powerpoint.
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# ? Apr 19, 2016 11:53 |
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Loomer posted:Does anyone even do all of them in longform? My understanding is several of them don't even have long-form ritual written. Well if you want to get super technical, the only place in America allowed to do the first 3 degrees the way they're presented in the Scottish Rite, is Louisiana. Emron posted:You're both kicked out now for less than perfect appendant body knowledge recall. The Grand Lodge of Emron has spoken. I cherish my Scottish Rite NPD notice. I might frame it and put it on the fridge. (Just kidding, the degrees are great, it's the politicking and cliquishness that are not great and drove me to be more involved with the York Rite and not at all involved with the Scottish Rite)
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# ? Apr 19, 2016 13:33 |
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Well got some good news. My petition was balloted and and approved! Now I just need to wait until September or October for me to get my EA. Been a two year process to get to this point.
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Cimber posted:Well got some good news. My petition was balloted and and approved! Now I just need to wait until September or October for me to get my EA. That's fairly long. Mine was about a year, but that was mostly due to the complication of my being in another country for half a year after I submitted my petition. I've seen petition to initiation usually take a couple months, but I don't really know if that's the norm or not.
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Cimber posted:Well got some good news. My petition was balloted and and approved! Now I just need to wait until September or October for me to get my EA. Good luck, please remind us closer to the time. I'm fairly certain that any local goon-masons might try to pop along if they're able.
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# ? Apr 29, 2016 19:18 |
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Indeed, what is your location?
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# ? Apr 30, 2016 10:02 |
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Keetron posted:Indeed, what is your location? Long Island.
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# ? Apr 30, 2016 21:30 |
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My petition is going up for review tomorrow!
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# ? May 2, 2016 20:48 |
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It's official! Tonight I'm being raised to the Sublime Degree of Master Mason.
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# ? May 3, 2016 15:26 |
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Old Dirty Cumburgs posted:It's official! Tonight I'm being raised to the Sublime Degree of Master Mason. Hurrah!
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# ? May 3, 2016 15:33 |
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Old Dirty Cumburgs posted:It's official! Tonight I'm being raised to the Sublime Degree of Master Mason. God speed!
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# ? May 3, 2016 17:54 |
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A lot of deserved congratulations in this thread!
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# ? May 3, 2016 20:07 |
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Well, all I can say is "wow". I certainly wasn't expecting that.
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# ? May 4, 2016 04:29 |
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Old Dirty Cumburgs posted:Well, all I can say is "wow". I certainly wasn't expecting that. That is one of the best aspects.
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# ? May 4, 2016 06:36 |
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Old Dirty Cumburgs posted:Well, all I can say is "wow". I certainly wasn't expecting that. Don't worry, the feeling of absolute flooredness and an inability to fully recollect the evening for a couple of days is a normal part of the initiatic experience. With that said... Congratulations to our newly raised brother!
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# ? May 4, 2016 13:42 |
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Keetron posted:That is one of the best aspects. This, over and over again. I tel our Apprentices and Fellowcrafts "you may think you know what you're in for next – you're wrong!"
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# ? May 4, 2016 22:14 |
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In honor of the 200th anniversary of its founding, the Grand Encampment of Knights Templar released a special bicentennial Knight of Malta breast jewel. I just got mine today and it's gorgeous
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# ? May 7, 2016 16:05 |
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Paladine_PSoT posted:My petition is going up for review tomorrow! Voted in, initiation set for the first Tues in June! Chalk up another goon Mason in the great state of Washington!
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# ? May 8, 2016 04:45 |
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Paladine_PSoT posted:Voted in, initiation set for the first Tues in June! Chalk up another goon Mason in the great state of Washington! Great news, soon to be brother! Don't forget to pat the goat before and after the ride.
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# ? May 8, 2016 08:19 |
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Congratulations, soon-to-be-brother. Does anyone else find it somewhat saddening when they see an apron for sale on ebay or at the second hand market?
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# ? May 9, 2016 05:10 |
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jrgnsn_tjf posted:Great news, soon to be brother! Don't forget to pat the goat before and after the ride. They said they'd try to get a nanny
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# ? May 9, 2016 21:36 |
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Loomer posted:Congratulations, soon-to-be-brother. no beef with masonry but you guys take this pretty seriously, even if it has the unfortunate legacy of bad decisions past
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# ? May 13, 2016 04:05 |
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Grognan posted:no beef with masonry but you guys take this pretty seriously, even if it has the unfortunate legacy of bad decisions past Not 100% sure what you're trying to imply here.
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# ? May 13, 2016 13:26 |
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For sale: Masonic apron, never worn
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# ? May 13, 2016 17:00 |
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Emron posted:For sale: Masonic apron, never worn Hell, I'd sell mine. It has a blackish brown spot on it, looks to be a manufacturing defect. Also, the cord is kinda coming off. It has absolutely no significance to me as its the second one I've had this far seeing as my first one fell apart.
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# ? May 14, 2016 02:43 |
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I still don't have one! We have general use ones at the lodge. I think they meant to give me one, because they gave me a really nice lapel pin, and said they were going to give me more things, but they ran out of gifts. Not that I'm complaining, I'm sure all will come in due time. So, in other updates, my mentor declared that I was well-versed in my MM catechism one week after I started studying it, and set my examination for this Tuesday. In addition, I've been put in charge of our lodge's website and will likely get handed the keys to our Facebook. I guess they tend to give the job to the youngest MM, because our SD, an extremely industrious brother in his mid-30s, was quite eager to pass the torch. It's certainly great to have a lot keeping me busy. Grognan posted:no beef with masonry but you guys take this pretty seriously, even if it has the unfortunate legacy of bad decisions past I'm not quite sure I understand your point.
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# ? May 14, 2016 03:22 |
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My initiation will be on my lodge's annual Hawaiian shirt night. It's like a magical gift.
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# ? May 14, 2016 07:35 |
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Grognan posted:no beef with masonry but you guys take this pretty seriously, even if it has the unfortunate legacy of bad decisions past Some of us take it quite seriously, yes. I have no idea what you mean by the last part, but assuming it relates to the apron, to me my apron is one of my most cherished possessions. I want to either be buried in it or have it given to a new mason, which is how mine came to me. What I definitely don't want is for it to be sold off online and put in a dark box in a collection, tossed because the buyer just wanted the case, or used as fancy dress. As a garment it has no magical properties in and of itself, but an apron belonged to a man who valued it, and that man - no matter who he was, where he was, when he was - was my brother. Other brothers, like Kilo, don't feel this way, and that's fine. We all attach individual significance to every symbolic component of the Craft, apron included. I don't think I've shared the story of how I got my apron, so I may as well. Lodges here in Australia don't traditionally give brethren an apron to own until the Third Degree, and I presume this applies to Canada and other GLs established under the UGLE after its foundation - so ODC, your apron might be coming yet. That one is usually ordered by, or on behalf of, the new brother from the GL and is usually sparkly and new and pristine. That's a fine option for brothers to have, and symbolically is quite lovely. Mine came a different way entirely, which made it memorable and seared the importance into my mind. When I was passed to the second, our WM handed me a few things in Lodge. First, there was the usual papers - you'll all know about those - but then was an apron, which belonged to a dead brother who had no heir-in-the-craft and who had been cremated, not buried. It was old, dirty, and had been sitting there a while waiting for something to be done - the sparklies were dirty and tarnished, the ribbons needed a gentle clean, and the lambskin is more yellow-brown than white. It was given by the Lodge, not by the man, and apparently none of our visitors had ever seen an FC given his MM's apron in open lodge as part of the ritual. Why exactly we did it - we haven't done it with the FCs who've come since, who have all received pristine new aprons on reaching MM - is a mystery, but it worked. I spent hours cleaning and polishing and loving that apron, connecting with the masonic heritage it carried with it, before I ever put it on during the raising. That apron, symbolically, represented not just what we are told it does in ritual, but the entire unbroken chain of freemasonry that initiated the men who initiated the man who wore the apron I inherited - his name is unknown - and, in turn, the men who initiated the men who initiated me, and through me, all those I have helped initiate. It is every moral, spiritual and practical value and teaching of the Craft to me, and so, every apron is those things to me. I think this is probably an uncommon view on them, but it's mine and it's why I find it awfully sad to see an apron being sold off on ebay to collectors.
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This is a wonderful post, Loomer. It's clear that like me (UGLV), that you feel our traditions are steeped with respect for those who have passed. Sadly my proposer, mentor, and best mate's dad has passed, but one day - hopefully in three years - I'll wear his apron in the big chair. Lately it seems we are losing more of each other. Our treasurer passed last month which saddened us greatly. I know his family were happy to donate his GL and craft lodge regalia to our lodge, as there was nobody in the family who could use it. TLDR: I guess what I'm getting to is that you're keeping some brother's spirit alive in what you do. That's great, mate!!
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# ? May 20, 2016 20:34 |
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Got my third degree tomorrow. Lost my cipher, and it's been a terribly stressful and time-crunched month because of family issues so I haven't had the chance to get a new one and I'm probably going to gently caress up the bit beforehand because I remember very little of it and definitely not the part I was supposed to have memorized, and I haven't had any proper sleep in a week due to a stupid minor infection that's made using my sleep machine impossible. I actually had to bail early on the last LoI because my wife just can't handle the baby in the evenings without me here. Assuming I actually pull this off, I am so, so happy they're having their summer break immediately afterwards because any opportunities I'll have to do anything masonic in the next 3 months after this are practically nil. And it would serve them right not to even let me do it what with how much I've botched things this month. I'm so bloody exhausted I'm not even sure how much I'd care right now what happens, hah. But I hope that, against the odds, everything turns out alright.
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# ? May 21, 2016 03:31 |
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I think you'll probably do just fine, but it would not be the end of the world if you postponed it for a bit until you were in a better state of mind. You health is more important than esoteric lessons. You definitely want to be able to focus during the Third Degree. When I first expressed interest, I ended up postponing for a whole year because of my approaching wedding. Too much going on to take on that endeavor.
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# ? May 21, 2016 13:39 |
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I have successfully completed my third degree! Woo. Now I'm gonna collapse into exhaustion for a few months.
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# ? May 22, 2016 14:06 |
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GlyphGryph posted:I have successfully completed my third degree! Woo. Congratulations, newly raised brother. Don't worry, the sense of total confusion is normal, as is an inability to remember certain specifics of the ritual. Those come back once the brain has processed some of the exoteric elements of the raising.
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Loomer posted:Congratulations, newly raised brother. Don't worry, the sense of total confusion is normal, as is an inability to remember certain specifics of the ritual. Those come back once the brain has processed some of the exoteric elements of the raising.
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