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Danger posted:Batman's whole thing is that he is Oedipus who never completed his complex. He even gets turned on when Wonder Woman refers to him as a "boy".
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I'd be happy if the entire FF go over to Marvel but would settle for just Doom. He alone can be such an amazing villain for an event movie.
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May 1, 2016 20:50
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:He even gets turned on when Wonder Woman refers to him as a "boy". His pick up line is hilarious.
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May 1, 2016 20:51
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Those two are going to be sneak making out like prom night in the next movie.
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Phylodox posted:So Fantastic Four just popped up on Netflix and I gave it a watch. After everything I'd heard, I had some pretty low expectations, and it still managed to disappoint. It really is just a mess of a movie. And not just the obviously tacked-on climax, either, although that did propel it to new heights of mediocrity. It all just fails to gel, and there were some astoundingly ugly scenes in there. Reed fighting the soldiers in the forest and then being confronted by Ben stood out in particular. I was the opposite when I saw FF in the theater, I had heard so much about how it was the worst movie ever, and I didn't think it lived up to that. It's still a terrible movie but there are clear signs that Josh Trank did have an interesting movie at one point until the studio, for whatever reason, stepped in and caused the whole thing to go down the shitter. The fact that Trank of all people involved seems to get sole blame for that movie (and blame in really direct personal ways, like the repeated secondhand story about his dogs allegedly making GBS threads in a rental house or whatever) is still really puzzling.
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May 1, 2016 21:15
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I really liked the Doom from that movie.
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Phylodox posted:So Fantastic Four just popped up on Netflix and I gave it a watch. After everything I'd heard, I had some pretty low expectations, and it still managed to disappoint. It really is just a mess of a movie. And not just the obviously tacked-on climax, either, although that did propel it to new heights of mediocrity. It all just fails to gel, and there were some astoundingly ugly scenes in there. Reed fighting the soldiers in the forest and then being confronted by Ben stood out in particular. I dunno I kinda dug it for about half its running time. I appreciate the body-horror aspect to it, and I think that stuff is well done, I just think its a questionable approach to something like the Fantastic Four. Nathan Rabin did a pretty good run down of it for his World Of Flops series, including some stuff about how people saw Trank's alleged behaviour as some indicator of the quality of the film: http://www.avclub.com/article/its-broodin-time-case-file-59-fantastic-four-234223 quote:In its current incarnation, Fantastic Four feels incomplete and unfinished. It was clearly designed as the first in a series of films but its historic box-office failure ensured that it is a one-off. Hell, even Story’s phenomenally lovely movie got a sequel. But Trank’s Fantastic Four is a surprisingly engaging, offbeat entry in an increasingly exhausted genre. I suspect that the future will be kinder to Fantastic Four than the present is, bringing overdue appreciation for this strange movie and its oddball charms, in part because it would be difficult for it to be much crueler. DrVenkman fucked around with this message at 21:36 on May 1, 2016 |
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May 1, 2016 21:29
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Gatts posted:I'd be happy if the entire FF go over to Marvel but would settle for just Doom. He alone can be such an amazing villain for an event movie. Doom, Kang, Galactus, Annihilus... the FF has so many great villains tied up with their rights. Any one of those four would be fantastic villains.
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May 1, 2016 21:33
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Is it possible to buy the rights to villains but not their heroes? What happens when a villain changes hands in who they oppose, like how the Kingpin started as a Spidey villain but he's now legally defined as a Daredevil villain? edit: poo poo, rhetorical question Inspector Gesicht fucked around with this message at 22:14 on May 1, 2016 |
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May 1, 2016 22:10
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To be generous, Fantastic Four did have a couple of good character moments, and some of the body horror stuff could have been developed into something interesting, but nothing, good or bad, felt anywhere close to meshing into a coherent whole. Even the first half felt like three or four (lol) disparate movies jostling for room. And Doom was such a half-baked, nothing of a villain.
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Here's my take. The greatest characterisation of Superman in recent years is the one where he's carrying a shield.
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Inspector Gesicht posted:Is it possible to buy the rights to villains but not their heroes? What happens when a villain changes hands in who they oppose, like how the Kingpin started as a Spidey villain but he's now legally defined as a Daredevil villain? Sometimes the character ownerships are vague, and some are shared. But Marvel did try to make a deal for Galactus and the Silver Surfer. They were willing to allow Fox to hold on to Daredevil in exchange for those characters, and Fox said no. Marvel wanted to put Galactus and Surfer in GOTG as a cameo, but couldn't. So it seems they've tried to make deals with Fox, but Fox wouldn't budge. That's partly why the Marvel line is no longer allowing the FF and mutants to be in other media like video games and not selling merch of them, because he's mad Fox won't deal.
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Codependent Poster posted:Sometimes the character ownerships are vague, and some are shared. Them's the rules, and Fox are totally in the right.
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I really do not blame Fox any single bit. They know what FF is worth to Disney and they're drat sure not going to let them have it. I worry for the Marvel Cinematic Universe after Thanos is FINALLY defeated because they will have nothing to top it unless they start making original villains.
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May 1, 2016 23:16
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It's not hard, it'll just be some fuckwad Dr. Claw with his own putty patrol.
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May 1, 2016 23:24
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Gyges posted:Honestly, I kind of like the idea that it's a family trait that if you come at a Wayne they're coming at you. Especially considering the Wayne family is so tied up in the very creation of Gotham city, the fact that they're aggressive sort of makes sense. Kind of more sense than the usual depiction of them being somewhat passive and the mugging just goes bad. Aren't Bruce and Batwoman cousins via his mom or something?
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So, an article about a Snyder's Watchmen interview back in 06 is being passed around, and it puzzles me the type of reaction BvS been getting, more specifically Snyder; from Objectivist accusations, which seems a leap if anything, to having him accountable on Batman's manslaugther
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Burkion posted:I worry for the Marvel Cinematic Universe after Thanos is FINALLY defeated because they will have nothing to top it unless they start making original villains. They could do Magus. The Sony deal helps too since they could pull from Spidey's villains if they wanted. And they could bring back the Red Skull, or do the Masters of Evil.
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May 2, 2016 00:03
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Gotta go fast. 
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Those two are going to be sneak making out like prom night in the next movie. https://zippy.gfycat.com/SpottedGleefulAlbatross.webm
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Burkion posted:I really do not blame Fox any single bit. They know what FF is worth to Disney and they're drat sure not going to let them have it. Fox might have a better argument if they weren't just completely inept at doing anything with anything having to do with the FF. Also they could just make a Sony type deal and get paid, but instead they want to be really loving dumb and now they're getting fat percentages of merchandising that doesn't exist. As for villains, there's always some Celestials or some poo poo they can dig up. Hell, there's got to be at least one Galactic Empire not tied to the Xmen or FF that they could use as a nemisis. Plus there's always a Planet/World War Hulk story line sitting there in case of emergency. If Wonder Woman does well I wouldn't be surprised if Ares and Hercules don't show up for a pantheon battle for the souls of Earth.
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Gyges posted:Fox might have a better argument if they weren't just completely inept at doing anything with anything having to do with the FF. Also they could just make a Sony type deal and get paid, but instead they want to be really loving dumb and now they're getting fat percentages of merchandising that doesn't exist. It's not the smartest business move, but I entirely understand why they're doing it- so Marvel can't have them. And I'm not sure Marvel can do solo Hulk movies without being a joint production with Universal, who still has those rights.
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Danger posted:Batman's whole thing is that he is Oedipus who never completed his complex. Superman's mom is probably really lonely.
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The age gap between Affleck and Lane is smaller than the one between Cavill and Adams, so, y'know, go for it
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Jenny Angel posted:The age gap between Affleck and Lane is smaller than the one between Cavill and Adams, so, y'know, go for it "Martha..." 
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May 2, 2016 02:16
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Superman losing his cool because Batman hosed his mom is probably what the Flash went back to warn everyone about.
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I like how we were discussing tony stark wanting to gently caress aunt may like, a week ago, and we've managed to come full circle to old-man-superhero loving young-man-superhero's mom
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ungulateman posted:I like how we were discussing tony stark wanting to gently caress aunt may like, a week ago, and we've managed to come full circle to old-man-superhero loving young-man-superhero's mom At least in Tony Stark's case it's Tony Stark and thus completely in character for him to sleep with any reasonably attractive woman who says yes. And Tony Stark is quite a step up from, say, Doc Ock if you have a thing for mad scientists. 
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Tom Holland is going to transform into that weird werespider from the 1990s cartoon after he finds out what May and Tony have been up to. Then Tony is going to have to bring out the Spider Slayer drones he has been working on since he knew about Spider-Man.
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Cythereal posted:At least in Tony Stark's case it's Tony Stark and thus completely in character for him to sleep with any reasonably attractive woman who says yes. And Tony Stark is quite a step up from, say, Doc Ock if you have a thing for mad scientists. Sorry, Clark, the CEO of Queen industries were drinking at a bar and he bet me I couldn't bang her. I didn't have a choice, I have to keep up my spoiled playboy secret identity. What if he found out I was Batman?
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May 2, 2016 03:00
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LesterGroans posted:"Martha..." 
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May 2, 2016 03:48
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https://twitter.com/creepypuppet/status/726960529390997505 Looks like James Wan is still on Aquaman.
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May 2, 2016 03:50
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James Win.
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May 2, 2016 03:57
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Thank God. I'm stoked for Aquaman.
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Wait but I thought the whole DC comics venture was in catastrophic freefall and everyone was fleeing the sinking ship made of the leftover pieces of BvS.
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TetsuoTW posted:Wait but I thought the whole DC comics venture was in catastrophic freefall and everyone was fleeing the sinking ship made of the leftover pieces of BvS. Apparently Devin Faraci is doing damage control on Twitter. He only said Wan had "trepidations" about doing Aquaman. You know, something that can't really be proven to mean anything. A worthy news story.
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May 2, 2016 04:14
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It's cool that all you need to have in order to succeed as an online journalist is a complete lack of journalistic integrity.
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LesterGroans posted:Apparently Devin Faraci is doing damage control on Twitter. He only said Wan had "trepidations" about doing Aquaman. You know, something that can't really be proven to mean anything. A worthy news story. Can't wait for his expose on James Wan Not Really Feeling Today
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Hat Thoughts posted:Can't wait for his expose on James Wan Not Really Feeling Today Ten Times James Wan Couldn't Even
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