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kustomkarkommando posted:Perhaps in death I'm sure by that time Bertie Jr will have enforced transhumanism on everyone above 80 so they can work indefinitely.
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Up North Sinn Fein are twisting in the wind a bit over their policy on reducing corporation tax. As part of the Fresh Start agreement they committed the executive to implementing a new reduced rate of corporation tax (12.5%) by April 2018 - during the televised leaders debate Martin McGuinness said he was "as resolute on the issue of corporation tax as Arlene [Foster]" and joined Foster in a brief tour of the USA round st paddy's day to try to drum up American investment by wheeling the new corporation tax level out as an incentive. But this week South Down MLA Chris Hazzard was on another debate (this time with questions from "The Good Friday Generation" aka the Youth) and said that any reduction is dependent purely on it's affordability - a stance subsequently supported by Alex Maskey (who also said any reduction would be dependent on the quality of jobs it attracts, possibly addressing a concern raised in the youth debate that a lower corporation tax would simply draw a wave of zero hour contracts). The corporation tax policy has always been divisive among SF in the North and it seems the issue isn't really settled in the party. Also, seeing SF go out of their way during the last couple of weeks to stress that they are "not pro-choice" and are deeply opposed to "abortion on demand" provides a pretty funny contrast to their campaign a few months ago
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Here's an interesting article. I'm not 100% familiar with the constitution so I have no idea if this paragraph holds water. quote:Word is that once the Seanad elections are over this week, the Taoiseach must nominate 11 stooges to take the Queen’s shilling and be their people in the Seanad. Apparently without these 11, the Seanad cannot be completed. And apparently the constitution states without a completed Seanad, the entire Oireachtas (read: Dail) cannot function – at all. Is this a thing that can happen? Will Enda use this as a safe excuse to go back to the voting booth?
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julian assflange posted:It's been so long I can't remember the order of my voting slip. Yes, it's a brand new poo poo show so it would be a full reset as if the first one never happened.
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Thought so. It wonder if the Soc Dems can get someone to represent in Cork South Central though tbh you can call that one with ease. Of course the media will say I'm part of the problem by voting for them and not for a majority government 
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Looks like negotiations are either "about to fail with a new election imminent" or "heading towards a successful end-stage" depending on which article one reads. I guess the media are as in the dark as the rest of us. On the 'redline subject' of Irish Water, it does seem likely to be suspended regardless of the outcome (either a new election or FF reaching an agreement with FG). What does the thread think will happen to those 61% of households that have already paid it if it is indeed suspended? A tax credit? Not giving any sort of refund seems like it may be politically painful, given most of those households are probably middle/upper income ones who vote. And doing nothing would set a dangerous precedent on the benefits of refusing to pay a tax.
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Apr 25, 2016 22:30
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That money is not being paid back out. Guarantee it.
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Apr 25, 2016 22:36
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I assume if they do suspend it, that they won't pay it back but those households will be in credit until a new system is in place or they revive Irish Water as is.
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Apr 25, 2016 23:07
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FF will bring it back as-is under the name Uisce Eireann and say it's better.
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Promising a credit for the new system when its implemented in 3 years time or whatever, then completely forgetting about it when in 3 years time it proves still politically unpalatable to implement water charges and the whole idea is shelved, would be a suitably FF policy I guess. "well you see, you paid water charges under the FG government in 2015 - FF has been against such things for years. Its FG who conned you out of your money really".
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Apr 26, 2016 00:47
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Actually that will be what happens, if FF even scrap Irish Water.
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julian assflange posted:Thought so. It wonder if the Soc Dems can get someone to represent in Cork South Central though tbh you can call that one with ease. We're down one candidate in Cork SC anyway if it's called again. Fiona Ryan AAA has moved to North Central and taken over Mick Barry's city council seat. Now I only have one pro-choice preference to vote for, and that's Jim O'Connell, who barely made a scratch in the last vote. Piss on my cornflakes.
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Did everyone see the dismal turnout for the mental health debate? :sadddowns:
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PooInAnAlleyway posted:Now I only have one pro-choice preference to vote for, and that's Jim O'Connell, who barely made a scratch in the last vote. Piss on my cornflakes. It could be worse. I live in Foyle and for the assembly elections we have a local socialist independent endorsed by the IRSP (and folks from 32CSM as well, the fuckers) who is not only militantly pro-life but also recently stated that women's liberation had resulted in a generation of young woman who saw themselves only as "receptacles for semen" (her words). If she gets more votes than Eamonn McCann I will have to take a long walk.
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EmmyOk posted:Did everyone see the dismal turnout for the mental health debate? :sadddowns: Eh sorry everyone is too busy forming a government...... 
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kustomkarkommando posted:It could be worse. I live in Foyle and for the assembly elections we have a local socialist independent endorsed by the IRSP (and folks from 32CSM as well, the fuckers) who is not only militantly pro-life but also recently stated that women's liberation had resulted in a generation of young woman who saw themselves only as "receptacles for semen" (her words). What the actual gently caress
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Actually in fairness I got that wrong, she just describes herself as "very left wing" not a socialist. But yeah she totally said that
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EmmyOk posted:Did everyone see the dismal turnout for the mental health debate? :sadddowns: People are saying it's not as bad as it looks because TDs can have live feeds piped into their office. So they may have it on in the background while they go about their work. And that it's normal enough for TDs not to attend the entirety, usually they say their piece and leave. I don't know though, that seems a bit of a cop out. How engaged could they be watching it in the background while working, and if they are fully watching it why not be in the room.
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I'd be interested to see voting patterns to see actual participation
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No going back to the polls. FG have secured a deal with FF for a minority government that will be "reviewed in August of 2018" I'm honestly shocked that there won't be another vote. I wouldn't be surprised FF whip the rug from under FG before the "review" though.
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They said they'd back them till September 2018? when I first read it I thought it was 2016. I don't doubt they'll renege on that promise. I suppose the next question is how long will Kenny remain party leader. He seems to have come out badly of this election, a lot of blame for the poor performance lain at his feet. A fresh face could definitely be a boost for them in the next election, so will they wait till coalition is wrapping up or get someone in earlier than that.
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Kenny could have easily kept on as FG leader if he didn't spend so long forming a government. I know the blame does not lie entirely on him, but he could have made a more of a fuss about actually forming a government. He is dead in the water now.
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Leo came out rather bullishly in the press slagging off FF a few days ago so he might be prepping something. I can't imagine it would be a full blown heave though considering how the last one went, Kenny stepping down as party leader but staying on as Taoiseach might be the work round to get things in order (and maybe put a bit of distance between the party and any government flubs). I'm curious about what Independents are going to given ministerial spots now, the Healey-Raes will may have their day yet.
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Also well finally get that Labour party leadership contest that's been teased since the election
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kustomkarkommando posted:Also well finally get that Labour party leadership contest that's been teased since the election I can't wait for the civil war Labour will have.
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Cabinet posted:I can't wait for the civil war Labour will have. That will be one bloody telephone box
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Snippets of the deal floating out in the media now though it isn't officially being put out until both parties ratify it. Apart from the water charges stuff there's €15m to reduce hospital waiting lists, an up to 15% increase on rent supplements, a review on Garda station locations and some talk about new tax credits for parents. Also seems FF have backed the Lansdowne Road Agreement to be kept in place till it expires in sept 2018 (according to the Irish Times anyway) which means public sector pay raises have been kicked into the long grass - might be seeing some of those threatened strikes materialising later this year. Indo published a little snippet quote:The first page of the document deals with exactly how the "confidence and supply" arrangement will work on a day-to-day basis. If the deal is abstention only this could all still fall apart if the independents rebel against FG - If FF abstain rather than vote for money bills the deal seems pretty weak tbh
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The rent supplements is good for some but doesn't address the problem in the slightest
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Deary me gerry
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Gerry has issued a statement on it and it isn't good https://twitter.com/sinnfeinireland/status/726943728288542720 As a SF supporter and Adams apologist... Gerry should probably step down as leader of SF. He really put his foot in it. At least he didn't pull the old "I was hacked!" excuse. I fully expect this to blow over within a week though. Ireland doesn't care about black people, they're a small percentage of the population, and we aren't getting a second election.
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quote:If anyone is genuinely offended by my use of the N-word they misunderstand or misrepresent the context in which it was used. For this reason I deleted the tweets Hahahaha "I'm very sorry that you're offended" Jesus...
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Bryter posted:Hahahaha "I'm very sorry that you're offended No you see he can say it cause he has black friends
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Wonder if that one will make it into his next little book of tweets. Honestly, how do you not stop before tweeting that and think, "What am I doing? "A Ballymurphy motherfucker!" would flow way better" Also this makes him making a fuss about not getting into the White House kind of ironic
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Considering his other deleted tweet was "Django - an uppity Fenian", I think he meant to point out similarities in the treatment of Africans in America and Catholics under British rule. But good God how does he write out that first one, let alone tweet it to the world, without considering the way that word would be received and the offence it would cause.
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Gerry having a rough time if it on Radio 1 this morning. Already used his black friends line.
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I can't see it doing much damage to SF support, given their typical working class nationalistic voter profile. And given the general Irish lack of interest in the whole 'race' thing on top of that. It does provide more ammo for the calls for his retirement though, which is probably a net positive for SF overall.
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What was he trying to say? What a clown... tweeting your stream of conciousness as a politician can make you very popular on twitter but the downside is of course when your can't control what comes out of your loving gob. Irish people are also scum and our homogeneously white country has bred us the most closetly racist populous in history.
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Marenghi posted:Considering his other deleted tweet was "Django - an uppity Fenian", I think he meant to point out similarities in the treatment of Africans in America and Catholics under British rule. As has been pointed out a lot drawing an equivalence between treatment of nationalists in northern Ireland in 50s-60s and the horrors of American slavery is pretty bizarre, considering Gerry recently compared himself to Rosa parks cause he was stopped by security while attempting to attend a white house gathering the man seems to have lost of the run of himself.
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Lol at all of this. Watched him speaking outside some building on Sky News and it's all a bit Father Ted...."I....I can explain everything. Actually....no no I can't"
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