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Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

Bloodshit posted:

Soviet tradition of huge May 1 parades revived in the Donetsk People's Republic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKnChL75eHs

It's not revived, because it never died. But I've heard this year they planned to skip the Labour Day parade because of the Orthodox Easter celebrations, so I'm surprised they actually held it.

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OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

Paladinus posted:

It's not revived, because it never died. But I've heard this year they planned to skip the Labour Day parade because of the Orthodox Easter celebrations, so I'm surprised they actually held it.

This year's in--Russia tactic seems to just combine the two, so you got Orthodox priests walking around with red Lenin banners.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
They just got high on the opium of the people.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
It's kinda amazing they are wasting the resources of a besieged city on tacky banners.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

The BBC documentary, The Conspiracy Files: Who Shot Down MH17?, is on tomorrow at 9pm BST on BBC 2, and should be a good watch, not least because I'm in it. There's a bunch of theories tested about MH17, and so more evidence supporting key theories.

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009

steinrokkan posted:

It's kinda amazing they are wasting the resources of a besieged city on tacky banners.

"Besieged"? The occupying army has full, unrestricted supply lines to Russia.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

OddObserver posted:

"Besieged"? The occupying army has full, unrestricted supply lines to Russia.

They are open to the East, but I can't imagine the separation from the rest of Ukraine has left economic activity in the region above bare minimum.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
I'm sure they have endless supply of Lenin posters and red banners, though.

Nilbop
Jun 5, 2004

Looks like someone forgot his hardhat...

Brown Moses posted:

The BBC documentary, The Conspiracy Files: Who Shot Down MH17?, is on tomorrow at 9pm BST on BBC 2, and should be a good watch, not least because I'm in it. There's a bunch of theories tested about MH17, and so more evidence supporting key theories.

Are they confident enough to come out heavily in favour of one side?

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Nilbop posted:

Are they confident enough to come out heavily in favour of one side?

They take a look at various claims made by various individuals and groups, in some case interviewing those people, and then get experts to weigh in. I know they look at the SU-25 theory, which is then demolished by experts saying it was physically impossible; they investigative claims the smoke photos were fake, which includes testing claims by an RT journalists they interview you can't see it from the place it was supposedly taken from (which they show is bullshit too); and I get to call the Russian MoD on all the bullshit they put out in their July 21st 2014 press conference. It's an hour long, so they cover quite a bit of stuff.

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

Brown Moses posted:

They take a look at various claims made by various individuals and groups, in some case interviewing those people, and then get experts to weigh in. I know they look at the SU-25 theory, which is then demolished by experts saying it was physically impossible; they investigative claims the smoke photos were fake, which includes testing claims by an RT journalists they interview you can't see it from the place it was supposedly taken from (which they show is bullshit too); and I get to call the Russian MoD on all the bullshit they put out in their July 21st 2014 press conference. It's an hour long, so they cover quite a bit of stuff.

Will this be available eventually to people unlucky enough to not live in the UK? Usually BBC content is blocked online.

OddObserver
Apr 3, 2009
Any chance a miracle happened and someone didn't call a ground attack plane a fighter?

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

Will this be available eventually to people unlucky enough to not live in the UK? Usually BBC content is blocked online.

I expect someone will stick it on Liveleak or YouTube, I heard a Russian translation team is ready to get it done the moment it's broadcast.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost

OddObserver posted:

Any chance a miracle happened and someone didn't call a ground attack plane a fighter?

It turns out they've been stuck in a holding pattern over O'Hare the whole time.

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

Belsat is an anti-Lukashenko news organization based in Poland because they can't operate in Belarus. The Night Wolves were in Brest attempting to enter Poland, and this Belsat reporter asked the local leader of the Belarusian Republican Youth Union whether Crimea belonged to Ukraine or Russia. He couldn't answer the question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iub-y2COLtM

And the Night Wolves were denied entry into Poland.

http://belsat.eu/en/news/whose-land-is-crimea-pro-lukashenka-organisation-activist-on-both-sides-of-the-fence/

TildeATH
Oct 21, 2010

by Lowtax

OddObserver posted:

Any chance a miracle happened and someone didn't call a ground attack plane a fighter?

Right up there with the important of calling out media outlets for referring to SPGs as tanks.

Which is to say not important at all, in the slightest, because most people think "Fighter" just means "Jet plane for war" and "Tank" means "Armored gun on tracks".

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

And the Night Wolves were denied entry into Poland.
They somehow managed to sneak into Slovakia, though.

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Reminder to tune in BBC2 right now for those who can.

Bloodshit
Mar 31, 2016

by zen death robot
Interview with the Texan fighting for the Donetsk People's Republic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz7FmjIN3g8

I feel like this guy could be the main character of the best movie ever made.

Poison Jam
Mar 29, 2009

Shh...
We're being watched.
How much are the CIA and MI6 paying you Eliot? It's despicable that you forced that nice old man to go on the telly and tell everybody how silly you are, when we all know you're on their payroll (does it pay in monster munch?)

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Poison Jam posted:

How much are the CIA and MI6 paying you Eliot? It's despicable that you forced that nice old man to go on the telly and tell everybody how silly you are, when we all know you're on their payroll (does it pay in monster munch?)

One sec, just on the phone to MI6 in my London Penthouse.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


"London penthouse" made my week.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
Can you see the Ecuadorian consulate from there? Got a clean shot at the balcony? Asking for a friend.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

My favourite bit is they actually broadcast the bit where I called the Russian MoD liars and said they were absolutely disgusting.
[edit] This bit:
https://twitter.com/bellingcat/status/727740537625776129

Episode is here on iPlayer
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0791ns4/the-conspiracy-files-who-shot-down-mh17

And for the moment it's on YouTube here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XATQcYIzrPM

Brown Moses fucked around with this message at 06:53 on May 5, 2016

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Bloodshit posted:

Interview with the Texan fighting for the Donetsk People's Republic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pz7FmjIN3g8

I feel like this guy could be the main character of the best movie ever made.

I don't think the war crimes trial of him will be televised.

Bloodshit
Mar 31, 2016

by zen death robot
Which war crimes did he commit?

Actually, he's done a lot of exposure of war crimes committed in Ukraine to the English speaking world.

i.e.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgB2bhFfEtM

ass struggle
Dec 25, 2012

by Athanatos

Bloodshit posted:

Which war crimes did he commit?

Actually, he's done a lot of exposure of war crimes committed in Ukraine to the English speaking world.

i.e.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgB2bhFfEtM

He fought with a Chetnik unit in Bosnia that was responsible for crimes against humanity. He is wanted in the US for drug trafficking.

Pick better heroes

Bloodshit
Mar 31, 2016

by zen death robot
Where is your evidence that he went to Bosnia? You have him confused with another American volunteer from New York.

It's true he smuggled marijuana across the border with Mexico, which makes him even cooler as a person. Marijuana is now decriminalized in most US states. He makes a pretty good defense of it in his Graham Phillips interview:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2S-bFdiFzkA

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

slavatuvs posted:

He fought with a Chetnik unit in Bosnia that was responsible for crimes against humanity. He is wanted in the US for drug trafficking.

Pick better heroes

Check his post history and move on.

ass struggle
Dec 25, 2012

by Athanatos
The hero of the oppressed people of Donbas

https://youtu.be/9jUbYd4sSDI

lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Mods, please ban and probate the troll account. Thank you.

HUGE PUBES A PLUS
Apr 30, 2005

We haven't had any Kremlin trolls in this thread in quite a while. It's almost refreshing to see them back, trying to spread their bullshit.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

Brown Moses posted:

My favourite bit is they actually broadcast the bit where I called the Russian MoD liars and said they were absolutely disgusting.
[edit] This bit:
https://twitter.com/bellingcat/status/727740537625776129

Episode is here on iPlayer
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0791ns4/the-conspiracy-files-who-shot-down-mh17

And for the moment it's on YouTube here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XATQcYIzrPM

Boy, that's a BBC doozy.

Somebody fucked around with this message at 06:52 on May 5, 2016

Lucy Heartfilia
May 31, 2012


Bloodshit posted:

Which war crimes did he commit?

Actually, he's done a lot of exposure of war crimes committed in Ukraine to the English speaking world.

i.e.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgB2bhFfEtM

Death to Putin. Death to the seoaratists. And diarrhea to you.

Plan Z
May 6, 2012

Wow, why even give Ray McGovern the time of day? He didn't even put up an attempt at any sort of evidence. Just the usual conspiracy theory hand-wringing of "they have it they just won't show it" and "This has been proven to be false" without any contribution.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

Plan Z posted:

Wow, why even give Ray McGovern the time of day? He didn't even put up an attempt at any sort of evidence. Just the usual conspiracy theory hand-wringing of "they have it they just won't show it" and "This has been proven to be false" without any contribution.

"Balance"

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Brown Moses posted:

My favourite bit is they actually broadcast the bit where I called the Russian MoD liars and said they were absolutely disgusting.
[edit] This bit:
https://twitter.com/bellingcat/status/727740537625776129

Episode is here on iPlayer
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0791ns4/the-conspiracy-files-who-shot-down-mh17

And for the moment it's on YouTube here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XATQcYIzrPM

I have to say, this internet wall is not doing anything good for BBC as a news outlet. They're pretty much killed themselves as far as the rest of the world is concerned. I had to try two whole proxies before I could watch it. :v:

Somebody fucked around with this message at 06:52 on May 5, 2016

Somaen
Nov 19, 2007

by vyelkin
http://www.defense.gov/News-Article-View/Article/751800/resurgent-russia-poses-threat-to-nato-new-commander-says

This is some strong language coming out of NATO recently and not the Baltic countries for a change. I wonder how much of the concern is based on military intelligence on Russian plans and how much is wardrum beating. I doubt Obama would have come all the way to Narva to give that speech about protecting the Baltics unless there was good evidence that he needs to send a crystal clear message.

Dusty Baker 2
Jul 8, 2011

Keyboard Inghimasi

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

We haven't had any Kremlin trolls in this thread in quite a while. It's almost refreshing to see them back, trying to spread their bullshit.

It was also an Assad apologist.

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anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Dusty Baker 2 posted:

It was also an Assad apologist.
That's pretty much the same thing, really.

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